I have come to this conclusion despite much success and it is one I think I will receive countless hate for, but I truly now believe this and have been known to tell many men how to embrace their inner manhood without fucking up their social conditioning factors (and rather than risk looking like a social retard but still getting laid...which is not the purpose. It is to get laid and still stay in the bounds of society).

There is only escalation and having the balls to do it. There are no magic words, no magic lines, no magic routines, nothing special, no amount of body fat %, nothing in the world that can get you any and every woman. Every girl is different, their moods are different, some are racist, some are fucked up, and many of them (all of them) judge by baseline values (not overweight, not a burn victim, not truly ugly). I am one member on this forum with the balls to say that pick-up is not for everyone. It is not the "MAGIC PILL" to get you laid guys.

There are many different women, and none of you (not even me) are so fucking good that we are that amazing and we write our shitty little lay-reports in graphic detail to amp up our own machismo (I'm looking at you manwhore, and the rest of the lying PUA piece of shitty world).

If we use strong physicality on a girl, whatever the case may be, we can't "Trick her mind" or "convince her" to sleep with us. This goes to all the newbies out there. Stop being a fucking vagina and escalate. If you grab her and she says get the fuck off, then get the fuck off of her because she does not want you. You are nothing special. Despite my successes and my "triumphs" as many have heard, I have had failure to realize pick up is largely bullshit. It is just about getting in touch with your manhood, and forgetting all the other fucking nonsense bullshit. It's not about using some mysterious magical method (M3) to APPEAR nonneedy, its about actually being nonneedy.

There is no method, there is only the method of no method. There is only chaos in congruency and being a natural-born man.

No hate, i actually like what you post. I am putting that vagina thing in my signature.

But i do have one remark. I strongly believe that with the right motivation and the right amount of effort, anybody can do anything. Even change from acting unneedy to really being nonneedy. To me, these methods, theories etc, are abstractions, guides showing you what needs to be changed through a concrete set of rules. something like that.

i mean, when they taught me to drive a car, they learned my park like this: now put in reverse and drive until the first bar of the fence is right in front of your left mirror. then turn the wheel 2 times to the left and drive until the fence is almost at the nose of the car. Then turn over completely and blablalba.

This was not really parking, hell, i real life it is not doable, because fences rarely mark where you should park the car. Other cars do. But it was a guide to teach me how to park. The only hting is: if i never had gone to the next step, like try it without counting the bars of the fence etc etc, i would have never been able to park the car in town. This is what people in the PUA community should do, but most of the time never really do: they stick tight to the methods, while it is the next step that they should actually go for. This is what i think.

cheers mate!

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Thank you.

I truly believe pick up is all a joke, now obviously some ideas of the nonneediness and being more socially comfortable going up to people is needed on a basic social level for most men, but truly one thing that even author of THE GAME / Neil Strauss highlights

The realization came when I went from pretending to be not needy to actually not giving a fuck. This is when my real success began. - Neil Strauss admitting what true game is (not routines/methods).

The only thing I thank Pick Up for is just simply getting guys to go out and not being afraid to talk to women and embracing a core concept of their manhood. The other shit, the IOIs, IODs, kissing, tactics, routines, tricks, cocky funny, banter, rest is all bullshit at its best. It helps to do these tactics and eventually internalize them (as it all feels like you are going against your entire being) but to actually utilize them into "Tricking women" or hoping to "bed a model" is fucking retarded at BEST. Pick Up should simply be looked as a social tool, and if you are not socially retarded/ dont have aspergers, it needs to be treated in pure simplicity.

A woman that wants you / likes you will not avoid your calls...or give you a lot of shit through texts..or flake on you..or let alone have you utterly paranoid at what she might think (this is the fault of men that lack basic manhood due to their emasculation as men).

PUA core theory is only a paradigm, a model to understand how seduction works, it's a better model then "just be yourself". I totally agree with you, to get laid you need to "just be THE MAN", all canned routines and ninja techniques are not necessary (cf. "naturals"). We only need to understand what we are biologically supposed to do.

Routines help you to "fake it til you have it", they are only quick fixes for some of your sticking points but not the core of the game itself. If you begin by using some routines and you have good results, it helps you to build confidence and reduce approach anxiety. The goal is not to know all the routines of the world, it's to understand social dynamics and then forget all routines and plans to become a kind of "natural".

You become a Master if you master the core of your Art.

PU is like weight loss and musculation: the principle is easy to understand but it needs time and dedication. Today, everybody uses to have quick fixes for everything (doctor, steroids, weight loss pills,...) and they want one for pick up: "3 things to say to turn her on", "Best opener ever",... In the "PU Community", routines and outer game seem to be more important than inner game because of all forum junkies and "marketing Guru's". In fact, if you have good inner game and some outer game principles, you can get laid without using canned material!

The "PU Community" (like fitness,...) is corrupt by marketing: everybody is looking for quick fixes, give them some new routines! Remember: "If you give a man a fish you feed him for a day. If you teach a man to fish you feed him for a lifetime":

If you give all advices in one (e-)book, you'll sell only one book.
If rAFC need your weekly brand new routines to approach girls, you'll be rich.

Amazing post Baxter, fucking exactly what I wanted to say. Pick up does not exist ladies and gentlemen, it is only knowing basic outer game, and the "inner game"/smart pua bullshit word for self-esteem and putting your ego on the line of rejection is the key concept.

Sure routines help jettison guys into this, but very few guys and very few guys soon internalize canned material. Routines, etc and "pick up" tactics are bullshit in general.

Most women already to some level know if they want you or even want to fuck you. Not to say in a selection of men with equal wit/cunning/savvy she won't choose the guy with more "conversational skill" but hardly any woman actually has that many options, and most women and especially the hot ones I have had and many men on this forum have seen pics of me and my girlfriends can attest to: these girls always choose the man that least repulses them in terms of race, age, looks, maybe she thinks ur the Dali llama or some shit...

Spoke with Paul Janka about this today, he was laughing his ass off when I mentioned Dali llama and said so true, so true...

Guys, pick up is bullshit. We are not special beings.

Dude. Shut up

you stay trying to impose your doubts and insecurities on other people, smh

Newbie scenario:

- Virgin
- Scarcity mindset
- Sitting in his basement playing WoW day in and out
- Only woman he's communicating with on a daily basis is his mother or cousin.
- Never touches people unless he has to.

Look at ^that and tell that newbie that he should 'just escalate' and 'just grab a woman'. Does this make sense to you?

You're not taking the inexperienced people in consideration. They can't 'just do it' because they don't understand 'it' and because they don't believe 'it'.

Yes, it's true there are no 'methods' that will get you laid. However, the context behind those method WILL. And it is this context that newbies want to learn. Do you think they will learn it through Mr.Captain when he tells them to 'quit being pussies'? Do you think you can tell them to 'just escalate' and expect them to just escalate?

These 'methods' are the foundations of the context behind them. They will not automatically internalize the context for you, but they will help you eventually get to the point where women 'start making sense' to you and you finally start internalizing what you need to understand about PU.

The methods aren't the solution. The methods are the guidelines to getting the solution.

And as much as the methods are capable of F'ing you up equally as they are capable of helping you - your shallow advice is twice as worse as it fails getting the newbie to take even the first step.

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I agree. I didn't explicitly state it. But as I already implicitly stated, most of it is inner-development. There is no "Tactic" you cant consider those methods tactics. And as you said, they aren't the solution but the GUIDELINES. Which makes sense. The reality is that obviously this topic is not meant for newbies. Most of everyone on this forum spewing "give her a NEG!!!" are clearly newbies. It's very easy to see.

These guys can learn the routines or methods as I said, but they definitely need to understand that all it is IS simple escalation. The "subcontext" and all this nonsense makes PUAs seem like demi-gods to newbies. The fact is we are not special. There is no SUCH thing as a PICK UP "ARTIST" One can consider mastery of the game "Art" but the fact is women are finalized selectors of the seduction.

All the crap you're saying is a by product of your limiting belief that rejection is cool, that losing is fun.

Sucka Attraction is not a choice.

Here here.

I've been saying this shit all along.

Says the guy with almost 500 posts in less than a month...

must get lonely relying on your hand

I don't look at porn nor masturbate. Its called mental toughness. Trying teaching your clients that you shrink!

I completely disagree captin, I have been the finally selector in 80% of my successful seductions. Read Little Pandas post a few more times and maybe it will stick. He knows what he is talking about.

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And agentprovocateur from the looks of things, you're averaging 8 post a day and the iwanteasylove is averaging 12.. You're not that far off; looks like he only spends about 8 extra mins on the forum everyday than you do.. think about mate

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