Alright all, laying this experience out there, hopefully going to get some feedback -

I went out to the bar with some friends and met this HB9. I tried a few lines, and all was going well, opened her up pretty quick, but mind fucked myself thinking it was all for a tip. Convo went about like this:

Me: Hey, aren't you too young to be working in a bar like this.
Her: No, I'm 23.
Me: I could of guessed younger (she's quite a bit shorter than me - 5'1)
Her: It's because I'm short
Me: How long you been around here, I'm kind of a big deal in this place and I've never seen you around
Her: I just started last week (laughs)
Me: etc etc..

End of the night comes around and my buddies and I are about to leave and shes like you better come back and see me and runs over and gives me her number. I come back a week later with some other friends and maybe texted her twice during that week apart, and she says she's getting off early and would like to hang out with us. So we do and my friends end up leaving early to go to a party just leaving her and I. Well I had a few drinks and she says she was hungry so I offer to take her out for a bite to eat and we do, and we pull over after eating and I kissed her. She wacks me upside the head, gives me the pout face and then kisses me.

A few days go by after that and I text her twice asking her to hang out and she's all kinds of busy and it's literally gone from the flame we had in the car to friendzone in a matter of weeks. Wasting my time on this one? Suggestions to break her out of this friendzone shell and go for an f-close.

Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks fellas.

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First thought:
It's a woman, no shit she's gunna act weird; keep going on but obviously pursue others

second thought:
She seems to have to power; She gave you her number so She could ask you to hang out (which you jumped on, which show's you're too available) and She did the kiss and now She's freezing you out. Easy tactic to get a guy to chase you. You should play a little hard to get and see how she reacts to that

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Excellent thought. I'll give that a go. Thanks brother! I'll let you know how it goes...Give her a week or so of no contact?

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Glad to help you out of this; NEVER use no contact to punish a girl who isn't already doing you or officially your "girlfriend" - so many people think this will work and 100% of the time it doesn't. Make sure you ingrain that in your head, freeze outs are to increase attraction, if she isn't attracted to you you can't increase nothing.
Maybe try some "telling"
tell her at like 9pm thursday "I'm going to (nearby club) saturday at 10pm, if you're coming bring your fun side (and wear something cute)" and then actually go, if she doesn't show start gaming the other girls there, if she does show admonish her on how she gave "wearing something cute a good enough try" and keep gaming her

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Alright, I'll do that. I misunderstood the freeze out. Hopefully I didn't do too much damage with all I said last night. Went like this:

Her: (After I asked her what was going on originally, why she flaked out on me) I don't have feelings for anyone. And I don't want to mess things up for you. Don't want to hurt you like I do everyone else. I like ya, but I don't want a relationship right now, like everyone else. And I don't want to.
Me: Lol - sure well when you think you're cool enough for me, let me know. Enjoy your evening.
Her: I just need a friend right now and you send something like that?
Me: It wasn't meant to be mean...I don't want a young woman that isn't willing to take a chance. Once you get your stuff together we can talk. That's all I'm saying.
Her: I read that wrong lol.
Me: I'm just gonna give you some space is all... and look elsewhere and hopefully for you, I don't find someone as badass as you by the time you get your shit together.
Her: Psh, no one is as badass as me!
Me: Thats for you to prove
Blah blah - going to bed blah gnight.

Now how should I proceed after that mess that I got myself into. ha.

Edit: To make up for this failed pursuit - I took home a HB7 from work...and now she's a stage 5 clinger even after I told her I was dating other people she's still hounding me. Mistake 1: gaming a woman at work Mistake 2: taking her to my place...because now she knows where I live.

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Truthfully there is no proceeding from there lol. The amount of work you'd use to get her back could get you 5 different girls.
And when you asked her why she flaked, it reminded me of something I've heard and love "don't ask a girl a question unless you already know the answer"

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charbald good to see your post(s) again. My opinion btw on this whole thing, especially the last one is you dug yourself in a grave, she completely has the ball in her court. You literally said, kk im not getting what I want talk to me when you will do that thing for me.

I mean sometimes it works, she will text you and be like hey lets go have fun blah blah blah, and now you have total control (if you dont mess it up, and if she isn't a mental person and only did that to regain ur control) if she does re-text you just say cool, can't though, im busy with XXX why don't we do it later hows day 1 or day 2, this gives her the chance to think of which day is best for her rather than a yes or no scenario of is day 1 at XX:XX time good.

You get what I mean by that?

Anyways, give up on her, go have fun with other girls, and the best part is she works there so she will see you have a good time with other girls and will get jealous and then you hve urself a jealously plot line going YAY!!

So have fun!

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-Raphael

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So she randomly texted me today asking me to go to a concert out of town with her now..This woman is confusing the shit out of me. I'm starting to think she's bipolar. lol.

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But I'll definitely give that a shot. Just don't know how to respond to the text about the concert...

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Aight man. I'll do my best to let this fish go. She's an amazing person...hell I'd suffice for even FWB with this one. I still can't believe after this shit she still just invited me to a concert out of town...

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depending on the cost I'd go to the concert, reason being to test out any new pua techniques you've heard about or try kino ect without worrying about rejection, I use to train new techniques right away on a girl who I already had reject me, and I learned a LOT with none of the risk.

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Sounds like you're friendzoned dude. But go to the concert and game other girls in front of her. That would be AWESOME.

Damn it. Aight.

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Definitely go and try shit with her, make it fun. I do the same, and tbh I love it cause i really learn, worse comes to worse she says I cant do. best result she digs the stuff and you get to hu and something happens out of it.

She just invited you out so your in control. Tell her "sounds like fun but it better not be a shitty band or ur done, if it is ur fired from being my promoter friend and if its dubstep... well lets just stop there.."

even if u like dubstep its just cute flirty banter. keep it in control and definitely have fun I dont see how ur friend zone, a girl can make a move that doesnt mean ur friend zoned. a girl txted me 2 days after we met to grab a drink, its a huge IOI in my opinion.

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Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

So it's like 3:19AM...wanted to give an update on this..today I decided to do something totally out of my norm and went caveman on her. Pretty much told her that we both had needs that needed fulfilled and I think it got under her skin a little bit and threw her psyche for a loop. She tried to shun it at first, and I shit you not she wanted it just as bad as I did by the end of the night. Ok - so I didn't F-Close it tonight, she claims within two days we're officially going to F-Close as she had to go home she had to get up for class in the morning. But anyways, the best part about this evening is I took Tr@veler's advice and gamed on another woman right in front of her tonight, I think it assisted quite a bit having her see me getting totally hit on by another HB9, it got to the point where the original HB9 was sitting right next to me while this other HB9 was giving me a back massage and kissing my neck. She pushed the HB9 out of the way and started making out with me in front of everyone in the place and told me that she wanted to fuck. Yah, it was a complete success this evening. I believe I blew my fellow wings mind tonight. I took care of him though too, got him a piece of ass, and he took her home. But anyways, I'll let you know if anything else happens and if the F-Close actually goes down. Thanks again all for the great advice!

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