Gents,

Been talking to this girl for a few months now... randomly met a few times downtown (ended w makeout sessions, nothing more). After I Took her out on a solo date... went extreamly well... ended w kiss close and nothing more (my goal was just to get to know her... leaving f-close for our day 2).

Here is where im so confused... We have been making plans for the day 2... but the past 3 times now she has called it off. Below our the text msgs and then flaking reasons. im seriously so confused... legit or is she blowing me off?

4 days After Day 1 date

TEXT MSGS

Her "Princess..."
Me "Whats up gumdrop"
Her "eating some strawberries... reminded me of u.. what r u doing this week?"
me. Busy the next few days but free towards the weekend, u?
her "Funn. We need to do something sometime again!
me " sure r u busy thursday?
her " i dont believe so"
me "ok lets hang out, do u work?
her " ya just till 6 tho.."
me "ok ill pick u up @ 7"
her " whats the plan this time mister?"
me "I dont wanna spoil the fun"
her " hahaha no way, ok ill give u a text when im off work"

The next day...
***HER text (Flake #1) -"Sad news love... im going home this weekend (fri-sunday)... And my ride wants to leave early like when i get off work can we hangout sometime next week? ha sry i suck with plans."

At this point im thinking not a big deal... she doesnt have a car (we r both in college) and has to go home for the weekend (she told me this). Bad timing for me or flake? She wanted to plan for next week... but i was busy... which leads us to our next plan... 2 weeks later to hang out again.

Texts continued:

(the night before we planned 2 hang out for the day 2)
me "get some rest tonight angel, you r gonna need it for tomorrow "
her "haha cant wait "
(the next day) **HER "whats the plaaaaan for tonight mister?
me " a little fun w a side of awesome... pick u up at 7"
******Flake number 2... this is the text she sends me.... along w a photo of a thermomitor w 101.9 on it.... ya... leme know what u think here...

****HER**** "Babe.... Iv been running a fever allll day. I thought it would get better, but its not. Please dont hate me I might just go to my aunts to have her take care of me... im sorry... "

So after she sends me this I call her... she sounded horrible... and I know for a fact she didnt go out or do anything that night (im 99.9% sure this was legit she was sick... friends of friends of hers confimred.)

SO... we re-schedule over the phone for a few days later (sunday which was fathers day... she said she had no plans... and i didnt eiter. When i talked w her after the 2nd flake (when she had the "fever") she told me she had a fun time w me and wanted to see me again for sure... and everything had been leading up 2 a day 2.... and then of couse i chose fathers day to get thogether (i totally forgot... i just thought sunday would be a good day to get together w her bc no 1 is normally busy on sundays... bad timing again??

SUNDAY:
me " hey whats up"
her "Hey! Dads in town.. going to eat w him and the fam for fathers day. Yay. whatre u up 2?
me "Im on my way down to see you.. remember???? lol
her "youre on your way? im w my fam right now..."
me" ok thats np i havnt left yet. just need 2 kno if u still wanna hang out later tonight?"
Her "Let me call you aftr were done eating. I didnt know it was fathers day! hahah im terrible.

me" ok the sooner the better. and its all good i forgot 2 :/

******* 3 or 4 hours go by.. i call her 2wice again and text her saying "hey please call me or text me as soon as possible. thnx.

*******Its been 3 days now and she hasnt responded... AT ALL. I have no idea what to think her people... she has always called me back... or texted me... but w 3 flakes now im starting to think something is up....


SO NOW WHAT? SHOULD I CONTACT HER AGAIN? IF SO WHEN? I FEEL AFTER SHE DIDNT HIT ME UP AFTER DINNER W HER FAM THAT SHE SHOULD B THE ONE TO HIT ME UP NOW.... SHOULD I BE DONE CHASING? ANY COMMENTS PLEASE WOULD REALLY HELP ME!

THANKS,
DUKE

Stop "chasing", you sounded needy after the last flake. All 3 seemed like legit flakes and from what I've read it certainly seems that she's still willing to meet-up. Act like it is no biggie that she flaked, you have other options or should at least pretend to.

Texting, calling twice and another text was probably a little too much after the last flake. Don't text any more, wait for her. If she texts and is willing to meet-up, call her. Tell her you have some kind of surprise for her but don't tell what it is. The point is to get her interested and curious.

Ya I did seem needy after the last few texts and calls... and it lowered my value a little, but at this point is it enough for her to never text me again? How long do I wait for her to hit me up? Week? 2 weeks? Month?

Thanks again for the post! Any other comments would be greatly appreciated.

Duke

You did a good job on the texting and as you claim had good times when you saw her in person so this is indeed a rare case. Might be legit flaking reasons but if she really wanted to see you she would make time for it.

I would stop chasing and let her do the initiating again.

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Thanks for the post! Yes my text game is pretty solid (I think) and everything has been leading up 2 a day 2. Now I do TOTALLY agree with you tho that if she wants to see me again she will hit me up. I guess its just hard right now not having any answer. How long do I wait for now tho? Do I ever hit her up first?

Thanks,
Duke

Any other comments would be great as well. Also feel free to pm me. Thanks guys.

Duke

Her first flake seems to be genuine. However you should have stopped with the secret plan, clearly she wasn't hooked to that and she was a bit uncomfortable without knowing what would be going on. 2nd and 3rd flakes sounded bullshit to me. Psychologically, the longer and complicated the excuse is the more likely it's a lie.

Anyway, freeze her out for a week. Instead of scheduling a date with her, keep it aloof now and invite her to do something you're already doing for the day. Imagine you want to grab a cup of coffee, you text 10 ppl to come join you, if one of them said they can't, you don't sweat it. You say okay next time then and move to the next person. Keep that mentality.

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Thanks for the post bud. I agree with the 2nd flake and 3rd flake but like i said im 99.9% sure she was sick. She didnt go out that night and felt aweful for not hanging out... but idk lol. I will freeze her for a week and then yes start small again... not wanting to hang out but to just w/e... im doing this... u can come if u want kinda shit. thatll help raise me value after i sank it. any other suggestions would be great.

Thanks again!
Duke

Ya i need 2 your right... and this weekend im going out. i need to give this1 a break... see if she was really interested.

Gents, a little update.

Its been a week... I have not texted her and she has not texted me. How much longer do I freeze her out? I feel I can go longer... but im not sure why all of a sudden there is complete slience? Is this a done deal (aka its over?) or should I zip her a small text mid-end of next week w no intention to hang out.

Any thoughts would be great.

Thanks,
Duke

you can no longer what? Keep a dick in your pants? Are you 16? At all costs do not message or call her. Forget about her, meet other women. I am not saying you lost or something, but as soon as you message her again you will appear as needy afc, even if she responds, so dont do that. Enjoy other girl's company and wait. I have been in similar situation too. Dont go afc and be a man.

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Drop her. Even if she is as hot as burning hell, drop completely. If she never texts you back you will know you were just wasting your time.

Everytime I have forced myself to ignore a flake, I have gone out and picked up more, some better (and some just different) hb's.

And if she does re-initiate, your value just went up. You're the man, she waits for you.

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Thanks for the confidence. It hasnt been easy... but I will not text her until she texts me. Thats is my decision and im sticking with it... reguardless of the outcome. If anything this is teaching my to reach out and go find other HBs. A blessing in disguise.

Thanks again.
Duke

That's the spirit bro.

No prob we're here to help one another out. I'm reading up on flaking... and there isn't (unfortunately) much rocket science there. Just low interest level/value in the eyes of the HB, which has come from improper game to begin with. If anything when I get flakes, it just forces me to see what I did wrong so as not to do it again (can't always figure out the mistakes... but analyzing several flakes over time should give me some common mistakes in my attraction building phase).

Peace and go find some honeys.

Ten

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