Hi everyone,


my name is shar, and still a virgin.im going to start uni soon and i really want to improve my self.i hate being a wuss and always be in the friendzone.it suck to be me....


my whole teenager life is a complete disaster.i only had one girlfriend which i known her online and 'dating' through msn.she dump after my first date.i was complete wuss and needy.

then about two years ago i completely heads over heel at this one girl.shes fat,short and a '3'...i tried everything for her.yet she sont want to be with me and i discover something."attraction isnt a choice"...an e book that completely change my perspective into dating life.i realised that i dont have to be handsome/asshole/famous to get laid.since then i have been studying a quite bunch of topics like body language and other pua ebook.

but still..i cant even get a girl... but i know why it doesnt work.

my weaknesses:
1. only try like 5% what i had studied
2.seldom go out and practice my game

another thing that i i have to tell that is i have quite a i want to number of female closest friend.they are hot.but i hate being friendzone..i want to end this.


i want to get start all over again can.i need guidance.

feel free to ask me any question

maybe you should read the forum and actually practice the stuff!

yes..but i where/how do i start?

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That will help you (author, myself ofcourse )

Now stop being so damn negative. Its whole post is so frigging negative. Say something positive about yourself sheesh. You're a good guy.

iwanteasylove.

Thanks for the link!

the post is just some of my history.im really confident of my self and im eager to become pua


however,the reason that i need help in this post because i dont have any wingman.i try to persuade my best friend to learn how to pick up women but he dont believe me.i dont think anyone from my country knows about PUA. i feel lonely ykknow


but from i vowed myself,i will start to figure out this shit and become one of the best pua.

Hey man first things first...be positive.

Be thankful you found out about the art of seduction because otherwise you'd be so deep in friendzone everytime you spoke to a girl that it would cloud over all your other achievements in life.

Secondly...you need to learn the basic principles what its all about. So you need sources of information. This forum being one of them.

Other sources of great information are:
Real Social Dynamics
The Game
Mystery's method
Also check out Hypnotica - he's definitely my favourite as he's got great methods on how to overcome "being a wuss" in your case and can help you get out of that negative thinking mentality.

Check out youtube for some videos but support the cause and dish out some money for some of the seminar dvd's they have produced as they provide some great info.

Once your down with the basic ideas go out and try this stuff. Be positive about it. Its like learning drums. When you start you'll have no rhythmn and be off beat and so uncoordinated that it seems so alien and weird to practice this shit. However after a few weeks you start gaining some momentum and can start to see where you were previously going wrong (with your old failures) and become consciously incompetent instead of your previous unconscious incompetence.

Keep building and progressing, even if you get hit back hard, never take it personally, because you screwed it, not her!

When you start to get some success people call this conscious competence and to know your doing right is a great feeling. Remember this stuff is fun!!!! Don't be stressed and don't do it just for sex, you want to make yourself a better allround person and I believe from first hand experience that this shit works 100% with both male and female interactions making you alot more sociable and "cooler".

If and when you become a master this is unconscious competence however I can't comment on this as I feel I have a long way to go to reach this level which is coined as Mastery.

Also always remember you were this "wussy virgin" when you start to get success so you can always have perspective in your life and remember where you once came from and how far you have progressed. You don't want an inflated ego at the end of the day because that just makes you a cunt.

Good luck man. Just believe you can do it. We were once all virgins.

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Relaxing with style

Thanks Adam for the advice!very helpful.now i opened my eyes a bit about the path where im going..

I just browse through the forum and i realise before i practice my game out there, i need to be feel awesome in the inside or in other words i need to have a strong inner game.


i realised that i need to get over my negative feeling of insecurity,fear and neediness.

any advice on how to overcome this?

If you don't say "hi" you won't ever fuck her. It is as simple as A, B, C. If you don't do A, you don't do B, and you don't do C.

It's not handed to you on a silver platter with a woman saying "fuck me now"

captainjack

thanks for the comment.i completely agree with you.

from now on i will say hi(with confident) to everyone i meet.before this,i used to stand like a retard infront of girls.

and also..from now on i will work on how to create attraction rather than getting laid.

iwanteasylove :cool!so tell me.how long have u been start to practice the game?

thats really awesome.you must be a mpua to be that good.share me some of your experience. [/quote]

to practise game, get around good wings and see how they game

the influence of them will rub of on you.

You will find your game improving naturally that way via osmosis

Thanks for the reply.but a question?what is osmosis exactly in detail?

Hey Shar. There are definitely some great resources out there.

Double Your Dating / Attraction Isn't A Choice is a popular one:

http://www.doubleyourdating.com/attractionbook/

So is magic bullets.

http://www.magicbulletsbook.com/b/

A lot of people on these forums seem to like "direct" and "natural" pick up. Which is something good to aspire to. But the learning curve is so steep and the process of trial error is so frustrating, I bet 95% of guys who try it never get there. Maybe even 99%.

You could honestly do a lot worse than going out regularly, trying to talk to women, and then sitting back and analyzing what went well and what didn't. But I really do recommend reading almost ANY recommended resource (not just the ones I pointed out) and trying to get at least an overview of how successful guys pick up girls.

Even the books that rely a lot on "routines", those routines are efforts to write down what natural guys do spontaneously. I don't personally like routines. But it's not a bad place to start.

A few last things:

1: Your wingman doesn't need to know you are "learning to be a PUA". I hate the term "PUA". I never use it. And you shouldn't either. Or any other jargon. Tell your friend: "I want to go out and meet girls. I'm going to keep going out, even if I blow it the first time. Come with me if you want to fuck hot girls." Don't make it technical.

2: At the beginning, just get good at "opening". That's the kind of thing you can and should practice with lots of different people, not just a hot girl. Even if you have to cop out and talk to the bartender or the cashier, or say "hey, do you know what time it is" just to get more comfortable, that's ok.

3: Try different openers. Try simple direct openers delivered with confidence ("Hey. I'm Shar." "You're cute. I had to come here and say hi.") and more complex indirect openers, delivered over the shoulder to someone in a lineup or something ("Wow, did you just see that?" "The craziest thing just happened to me. I want an outside opinion.")

3: Remember, the point of opening isn't to blow them away with your first line. The point of opening is that most girls immediately treat you like shit when they think you're trying to pick them up, because most guys who pick them up are either losers or douchebags. Your job is to avoid getting treated like that, either by being super confident and friendly and unshakeable (direct), or by pretending you're not actually trying to talk to her (indirect).

4: It almost doesn't matter HOW you open a girl, as long as you know what you're going to say next. You typically can't go wrong with noticing something about her. "Hey, are you guys best friends?" "Hey, are you an artist? You have a creative vibe about you." When you say that with confidence and conviction, it doesn't matter if you opened her by saying "I'm selling lemonade." (I'm exaggerating. But still.)

5: The only way to learn is to actually be willing to make mistakes and learn from them. So many guys say "help! I want to get good with women", but never bother to explain why they aren't good with women, and how far they usually get without blowing it. Some of them don't actually get very far because they don't even try. Keep posting back here and people will give you advice.

hey vc writer, thanks for the the advice/guide.i definitely will keep trying until im confident and success with hb.

i will definitely keep up to date my progress.so you guys can advise me on how to improve my game.