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Hey Rye Lee, I wanted to get your opinion on this. This is also posted under "Sticking points" as well. Thanks.

In a situation like this, what would you do if you wanted to take this girl out?

I noticed a HB7 in one of my classes looking at me the last week or two. I've gotten a few IOIs from her.
She gave me a really good IOI today. I started talking to her today in class and I showed her a sheet of paper with some equations on it that someone gave to me. She asked me if I could e-mail it to her and she wrote down her e-mail address.

I don't have the list saved as a computer file, it's a list that's not extremely long (1-2 pages long). So basically, if I wanted too, I could say something like "I don't have this on my computer and neither does the person who gave it to me. I can make you a copy if you want."

The thing is, I'm really bad at communicating online. It's a distant form of communication and I tend to get bad results when the initial follow up is over the internet.

Please let me know what approach you would take. Any tips on how to make the writing more seductive in this situation would be great as well. Thanks a lot!
Sorry I took so long to get back to you, been a busy weekend. I'd make a photocopy and email her, saying that you will meet her to give them to her at a place for coffee or something and tell her to bring her thinking cap and you might help her with some studying. She's asking something from you, so you want to give it to her, but she's gotta jump through a hoop first, even if its just a metaphorical hoop of making her agree to come prepped to learn from you.

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ok so I got a # of this HB8
and called her and she asked me to come to a party
I couldn't go so I called her the next day with no response
weeks later I ran into her and had really awkward small talk
I thought i was fucked until she facebooked me and said "txt me sometime"
is this her wanting me to make a move?



HB8: when are you gonna come hang out with us?

ME: depends on my schedule
and who is us?

HB8: me and the girl who is practically attatched to my hip, We have lots of fun... you know you want in on it lol

ME:can never have too much fun
ah! I just remembered there is gonna be a party tonight

says she can't go

so a day or so later I ask "when are we gonna have that 'lots of fun'?"


and no response yet
what is my next move??????????????????????????????????????
I think I need a stronger SOI


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She's obviously interested and wants you to make a move, the problem is you keep asking her to make the move and give you an idea of what to do. You need to take charge and tell her to meet you somewhere and that you're gonna have that "lots of fun".

Also, stop waiting to continue things until the next day, you let anything you have got going for you fade away. When she says she can't come to a party, you say, "Alright, what's your schedule, are you free on [insert day]? I was thinking of going to the mall to get some xmas shopping done and could use a girl to give some opinions on stuff for girls in my family." If she says she can't make something, or you can't make something, don't wait till the time is past and then try to rekindle the conversation, just keep the conversation going and reschedule a meet.

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She's obviously interested and wants you to make a move, the problem is you keep asking her to make the move and give you an idea of what to do. You need to take charge and tell her to meet you somewhere and that you're gonna have that "lots of fun".

Also, stop waiting to continue things until the next day, you let anything you have got going for you fade away. When she says she can't come to a party, you say, "Alright, what's your schedule, are you free on [insert day]? I was thinking of going to the mall to get some xmas shopping done and could use a girl to give some opinions on stuff for girls in my family." If she says she can't make something, or you can't make something, don't wait till the time is past and then try to rekindle the conversation, just keep the conversation going and reschedule a meet.
I guess my problem is I'm being pessimistic and I'm really busy with exams and work and I won't be available much (bachelor party weekend out of time and a wedding the next) plus it is x-mas break and I don't know where she will be during that (we go to the same college). I don't really know when to squeeze her into my schedule but I do really like this girl. What exactly should I say or do to keep her around on my limited schedule. Actually the x-mas shopping is a really good idea... or i might ask her to help me pick an outfir for the rehearsal dinner and maybe that will also DHV.


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You need to either ask her what her schedule is and see if there is a spot that you can fit her in (use your busy schedule as a DHV and social proof), or tell her you're too busy right now and maybe in a couple weeks if she'll be around during xmas break. If neither of those will work, you can hope that you'll still have something going between you two when you get back after new years, but if not, sometimes that's just the way it goes. Unfortunately you can't always have the time you wish you had, so you need to try to make time to fit stuff in and if you can't do that, well you miss out and make sure you have time next time.

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I guess I've always been the friend first and then gotten women to like me and I've never thought that maybe in fact random women are attracted to me so I always feel odd gaming random women bcuz I don't want to be a friend, I want more then that
but does she?
I have issues with being forward
I never know how sincere to be or vocal
all my exes tell me I need to put myself ot there more
"to combat your evils, you should also maybe come up with a game plan, ya know to avoid awkward silences(because awkward silences can ultimately ruin any possible chance) just being honest :) other than that just BE YOURSELF! don't try and act a role (not that you do) buttt don't try to be what you think she wants you to be ya know... and i don't think that its always you that fucks your relations up w/ women ( who can be smart also lol) i think sometimes (usually most of the time) its the womans fault, hell i'm prime example haha... but i would just be yourself because you are an awsome guy and if the girl can't see that then she isn't worth your time anyways ya know. its not worth it. there are other boats at anchor, you just have to swim to some rather than just jump in em off of the dock. Thats just what i would do.. I mean bein real with ya its what i would do/ have done ya nkow lol.."


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Yeah...that's all BS. That's what people say that don't understand the concept of having game. They figure that being a decent person is good enough and that if the other person doesn't feel attracted, then they aren't worth your time. Well, they're wrong.

In order to attract people you need to have at least some level of game, otherwise you can't convey who you are and make them realise you are are cool person. Sure, it's not all your fault, but rest assured it is within your control and by telling yourself that it is their fault, you are making it your fault.

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Hi Rye, I've got some questions for ya:

1) I get hot if I peacock in layers. I wear a leather jacket for the cold, and inside I wear just a T-shirt or button down. Is it still possible to peacock effectively with what I'm doing right now?

2) What do you do if a hired gun at a classy joint keeps hinting that you should buy things at a place "more within your budget"? Actually, she's not even a HB, just a cougar I was chatting with to warm up for my sarge. Anyway, I'm not sure if it's a shittest (I was asking her to fit a necklace chain for my peacocking pendant) or maybe she was just being rude.

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Hi Rye, I've got some questions for ya:

1) I get hot if I peacock in layers. I wear a leather jacket for the cold, and inside I wear just a T-shirt or button down. Is it still possible to peacock effectively with what I'm doing right now?

2) What do you do if a hired gun at a classy joint keeps hinting that you should buy things at a place "more within your budget"? Actually, she's not even a HB, just a cougar I was chatting with to warm up for my sarge. Anyway, I'm not sure if it's a shittest (I was asking her to fit a necklace chain for my peacocking pendant) or maybe she was just being rude.
1) You don't need to layer to peacock. I effectively peacock with a flashy dress shirt, some rings, a necklace, my fedora and maybe a tie. It's not about how much you are wearing, but how much you stand out. The guy wearing a mesh shirt stands out pretty boldly and he's wearing less than anyone else in the club.

2) She might have been shit testing you, in which case I would have replied, "How do you know what my budget is? Have you been looking in my wallet? You're not a stalker or something are you?"

It might also have been her being a bitch, in which case that line might make her ease up. If a girl is being a bitch, or she's shit testing you, try being cocky/funny and negging her and you will find that it can dissarm equally well.

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You need to either ask her what her schedule is and see if there is a spot that you can fit her in (use your busy schedule as a DHV and social proof), or tell her you're too busy right now and maybe in a couple weeks if she'll be around during xmas break. If neither of those will work, you can hope that you'll still have something going between you two when you get back after new years, but if not, sometimes that's just the way it goes. Unfortunately you can't always have the time you wish you had, so you need to try to make time to fit stuff in and if you can't do that, well you miss out and make sure you have time next time.

that's the problem, we've never hung out and the only time we meet was short horrible small talk
I'd be comfortable doing a party but to just hangout I feel pressure
I really don't have much time in my near future but I really want to recover from my lame move
should I just reinstate the facebook smalltalk "hey how are exams goin?"
etc... even tho she ignored my "when are we gonna have fun?" post

this week is exam week then its winterbreak but I don't want to lose this one...I'm really into her
my coworker said I should ask her to that wedding reception
is that really cool or too much?
I could play it off like" hey lots of ppl are crash'n, you should tag along"
damn I feel so lame sometimes


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You're worrying too much and overthinking it. You need to stop putting so much pressure on this one, because that's all she is, just one girl. There's many many many many many more out there if you don't get this one. But you'll never know unless you try, so just try what I said and if that doesn't work, like I said, you miss this one, or you try again after xmas and things slow down again.

Sorry man, but you've gotten to the point of continued discussion being nothing more than mental masturbation, so I can't really help you any more than I already have. If you get things to progress some, then let me know and I'll give you my take.

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You're worrying too much and overthinking it.
yeah she snuck up on me today, came to my room, she knows my roomate (who is a dork but a nice guy) and we all talked and there was no real game there, i still have none
basically she wont b around over break so i'm just gonna drop this one for a while
i hope episode 2 of smalltalk and no game didn't hurt me but i dunno


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There is a HB9 looking girl at my school. I see her alot because we have the same program but the thing is I don't know her I know her friend, Usually she and her friend walks and study togheter. So I pop upp and starts talking to her friend and so on. And she listens and then I put my attention on her and I make her laugh.

But I have never come to that stage were we greet and talk when I see her alone. So what do I do ?


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I've got a few ebooks on that kind of thing, but I've only read the one so far and it was a good start. Really improved my game and what girls will do for me. If I can get them folding all my laundry a day after they met me, think what I'll have them doing when they've been having a continuous orgasm for the past 15 minutes (completely possible, this guy would give girls orgasms for over an hour).

I'm thinking that someone has already asked you this. But I can't really think of a way to narrow down search results to find your reply. So could I trouble you for your list again? Thanks.

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There is a HB9 looking girl at my school. I see her alot because we have the same program but the thing is I don't know her I know her friend, Usually she and her friend walks and study togheter. So I pop upp and starts talking to her friend and so on. And she listens and then I put my attention on her and I make her laugh.

But I have never come to that stage were we greet and talk when I see her alone. So what do I do ?
When you see her, you should just open her and act like you guys have already established a good friendship. If you keep that frame, then she will go with it and talk with you without any issues. Then all you need to do is say something like, "I'm heading to the mall sometime this week and could use a female perspective on christmas gifts." From there, you set up a time and place to meet and then you have fun in the mall using the techniques that I talked about earlier in the thread. You could also just tell her that you and some friends are gonna head to the campus pub, or a pub not to far away after class and that she should come along (assuming you are of drinking age and this is college you are talking about).

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