Shy girls have a tendency to look down. They are also too shy to keep eye contact. Aside from the obvious 'no' or physically ejecting away from you (by then, it's too late to manage the risks when she physically ejects or says no), what other techniques can you recommend from the extremely shy ones?

A shy girl will look away, but smile.
A shy girl will look away, but look back from time to time.
A shy girl will let you touch her, and even if she doesn't necessarily touch back - she'll allow your touch and not pull back.
A shy girl will not walk away. She'll stay and show some kind of effort in continuing to talk to you. She'll ask questions, she'll laugh at your jokes, she will do SOMETHING to keep the interaction going.

Point is, her kino/touch is a very small percentage of all the other signs any girl (not just shy ones) will give you.

Relying on her touch and putting so much emphasis on it is simply a factor which one should not be so dependent on.

It's more of mental masturbation, as skills said, than anything else.

Women usually resist, about 1-3 times(physically or verbally), so they do not look like sluts, now if they say no, read body language, tone and demeanor, too make sure you do not get in trouble and is not a shit test, as you get better and better you do not even encounter resistance, specially if you turn her on correctly(massage/dance is the best way or going pre-emptive sexual in text or verbal). now in a club and a bar you have to calibrate, and minimally escalate while looking for compliance then you keep going...

Finally. We've got something with substance from your end minus the rigmarole and mental masturbation "mental masterbation" arguments. This is good minus the fat and the crap.

You have some good ideas and a few great ones like the fixer-upper HBs. Unfortunately, most of your posts are just the mental masterbation debate types kind of posts that can't be field tested or put to good use.

Wel that is you opinion, but your opinion is irrelevant as i have been telling you for a while.... remember the post "everything works" were i address that, is like a virgin giving advise to Hefner on how to get laid, just look at this post as an "exhibit" not only are you a stelar groupie and a mental masturbator and full of shit(claiming to having sex for 15 hours, or some stupid shit like that), you can also look at the "worst newbie post" and most of the stuff applies to you, with that being said the penat butter on the dog routine is just epic, you should write a book on that...

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The worst type of newbies and intermediates pua/natural whatever you call it base of my almost 2 years in the Forum:

#1. - The ones that waste your time and do not listen:
These dudes contact you, and then waste your time with their failures/problems and then you tell them what to do or who to contact and then they do not listen. Then they contact you back with the same problems, and you ask: Did you do what I told you? No, and they ask you the same problem.

Okay Mr. Hugh Hefner. Point well taken.

However, there's a glaring, very relevant missing item on your link.
Item 1 should be the newbie PUA guru wannabe who lacks credibility. Your profile says you joined the forum in 21 April 2011 which is 1 year, 1 month and 3 days when you created your The Worst Type of Newbie thread. And yet you claimed, you've been here almost 2 years.

The reason they may not be listening to you could be that your posts were mostly irrelevant and inaccurate. I been doing pick up stressfully for almost 20 years, and no i am not a guru wanna be, nor do i ever want to have a title like that...

HH, the virgin.

is called i made a mistake i will edit and post 1 year 1 month and 3 days, thanks for checking, how is that relevant???? recheck the post in 5 minutes and you will see the correction... thanks for the help! And no i am not a guru wanna be, nor do i wish to be ever, i do not wish that "irrelevant" title on anybody... I been doing cold approach pick up for almost 20 years btw... Joining a forum those not mean shit you again as an "exhibit"

Cough. Cough. Cough. Explanation accepted Mr. Hefner. In my place, they call such mistakes exaggeration.

it was not an exaggeration, it was a mistake, which i corrected, i got upset at a newbie that was complaining about being too white, i told him to go tanning, and he said that tanning causes cancer, then i suggested a book on inner game called Psyco-cybernetics, he had tons on inner game issues, he said if i could please mail it to his sister house, i got pissed and took my anger by writing a post on stuff that i have seen for arrogant jerks like you on my time in the forum(1 year, 2 years, 50 years is irrelevant to the point of that post), i do not remember who i fuck last month, now will i remember my time in stupid ass forum, irrelevant, i was short by 9 months, can you please forgive me, but lets keep this going since you are making me make my point... I can't wait to field test the peneat butter on my dog...

Wel that is you opinion, but your opinion is irrelevant as i have been telling you for a while.... remember the post "everything works" were i address that, is like a virgin giving advise to Hefner on how to get laid, just look at this post as an "exhibit" not only are you a stelar groupie and a mental masturbator and full of shit(claiming to having sex for 15 hours, or some stupid shit like that), you can also look at the "worst newbie post" and most of the stuff applies to you, with that being said the penat butter on the dog routine is just epic, you should write a book on that...

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Well, the one below is an exaggeration as well. Your 'mistakes' are kind of habitual.

I can help you here. I bang for 10 to 12 hours. But usually, the chick gets so exhausted on the 6th to 10th orgasm she falls asleep. This gives you a rest time of 30 minutes to one hour. This will not apply to chicks who have hypersensitive clitoris or vagina. This will not include chicks with heavy legs. I go for petite chicks for a reason. Their legs ain't heavy. You'll last longer.

I'll share you some of my fuck routines on how I do this.

For the preparation though, start with 20 two-count jumping jacks, fast mode, 3 sets, with 1 minute rest per set. If you can do that without losing breath, do 50 two-count jumping jacks, fast mode, 3 sets, with 1 minute rest per set. If this is easy for you, go all out with 100 two-count jumping jacks fast mode, 3 sets, with 2 minute rests.

Orgasmic Rhythm
1. Clitoral Orgasm

2. Pubococcygeus Muscle Orgasm

3. Slow G-spot Orgasm

4. PC Muscle Orgasm + Deep Spot Orgasm

5. Clitoral Orgasm + Fast G-Spot Orgasm

6. Reversed Missionary Deep Spot Orgasm

7. Repeat Items 1 to 6

Fuck Routine Equipment
4 to 5 Pillows


Orgasmic Rhythm Execution

Suck and lick her clit and vaginal opening. This is about 1 to 2 songs long. Watch for the involuntary vaginal contractions. The first orgasm of the chick will be mild with around 2 to 4 involuntary contractions. The labia minora and vaginal hole will twitch. That is your cue. When this happens, place two pillows under her ass. This will make her body partially rise. This is important because this will save you energy which you need for the marathon fuck.

Put your penis partially inside vagina where the penis head is around 3 inches deep. Use your hand to rotate your penis. Do not touch her clit in this stage. Ever. Start with 5 complete rotations clockwise and then 5 complete rotations counter-clockwise. Start slow with 20 sets, then medium speed with 10 sets, fast speed with 5 sets. When you start to feel the vaginal contractions, remove your penis and watch the twitches. This is important. Removing your penis will result to more intense orgasm for the chick.

After her PC muscle orgasm, arrange the pillows under her ass, add another pillow and enter her again. Hit the top wall of her vagina. Do not touch her clit in this stage. Ever. The pillows will help you reach this through proper angling. Bang her slow with 10 shallow thrusts and 1 deep thrust, 20 sets. Medium speed bang with 5 shallow thrusts and 1 deep thrust, 10 sets. Fast speed bang, 10 counts. Slow speed, 1 deep thrust. Do 5 sets. Fast speed bang, 15 counts and 5 slow speed deep thrusts. Do 5 sets. Very fast speed bang, 50 counts and 10 slow speed deep thrusts. Do 3 sets. Remove penis when chick is having orgasm.

I'll end it here. I can't share you everything. But you get the idea.

^ Lol. With the qualifiers and supporting details from my post in NikAFC's thread, the claim is now accurate. I don't get it why you get mad when somebody offers a solution to an OP's problem. You could have offered yours but you just segued into fishing for a debate. It's not productive.
So what's wrong with testing Stelar's Method, hmm? I've field tested many more PUA methods and techniques aside from Stelar's. Don't tell me you're butt hurt jealous I haven't tested your methods yet.

Honestly, I prioritize the testing of techniques that are crystal clear and easy to understand. I have a bias towards simple and clearly written instructions. Do you have a problem with that?

lol! keep digging deeper dude...See the difference between you and i, is that you copy other people and methods, i don't, i am me, with that being said, i am super butt hurt that you do not follow my stuff and you follow stelars, i on the other hand can't wait to field test the peanut butter stuff on my dog, thanks again dude...

Women need 4 things(sex god by rose):

Dominance
Emotion
Variety
Immersion

lol! keep digging deeper dude...See the difference between you and i, is that you copy other people and methods, i don't, i am me, with that being said, i am super butt hurt that you do not follow my stuff and you follow stelars, i on the other hand can't wait to field test the peanut butter stuff on my dog, thanks again dude...

Excellent speech. I'll give you a round of applause.
Cough. Cough. Cough. Are you by any means, Daniel Rose?
Is your dog a chihuahua? Uh, nevermind. I guess she won't choke on your boner.

Dude you are so weak is not even worth responding, if you want to go back and forth with this silliness, at least put some effort, no some weak attempts, i am done with this silliness, i quoted daniel rose(a sex expert on a sexual question), is highlighted, how i pick up is how i pick up(you will not find in any forum or silly pu book)...Other than that since you offer to help the sexman, i am done with you,I will look the other way...Keep doing what you are doing..