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Why the Eyefuck Routine Works

Warped Mindless observed that a lot of PUAs underestimate the power of the eyefuck or laser eyes as he calls it in his ESP Escalation Model. Slywalker and Chief certainly discussed the benefits of the eyefuck in their respective threads. Unfortunately, I got information overload when I studied these threads. But in the case of WM's thread, the eyefuck was emphasized really well. The ESP Escalation Model is lean and mean in my opinion.

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In the scientific study by Tombs and Silverman, Pupillometry: A sexual selection approach, in the Journal of Evolution and Human Behavior 25 (2004) 221–228, they found out that a man's sexual attractiveness among women (when the pupils of his eyes dilated to the largest size) increased by more than 60%.

The study discussed two methods in two parts consisting of 30 women in the first method and 60 women in the second method. The mean age of women in the first study was 22.67 while in the second study, the mean age was 20.62 years old.

The researchers correlated large pupil sizes among men with sexual arousal. They also found out that women who got attracted most to men with the largest pupils preferred the bad boy type. To quote, "In the present study, females who exhibited preferences for male photos showing heightened sexual arousal also revealed preferences for bad boys as dating partners." (p. 226).

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The eyefuck routine is one good way to build your sexual attractiveness by more than 60%. Why? It makes you look like a bad boy which makes women horny.

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Why the Eyefuck Routine Works

Warped Mindless observed that a lot of PUAs underestimate the power of the eyefuck or laser eyes as he calls it in his ESP Escalation Model. Slywalker and Chief certainly discussed the benefits of the eyefuck in their respective threads. Unfortunately, I got information overload when I studied these threads. But in the case of WM's thread, the eyefuck was emphasized really well. The ESP Escalation Model is lean and mean in my opinion.

The other threads discussing the benefits of the eyefuck are:
In the scientific study by Tombs and Silverman, Pupillometry: A sexual selection approach, in the Journal of Evolution and Human Behavior 25 (2004) 221–228, they found out that a man's sexual attractiveness among women (when the pupils of his eyes dilated to the largest size) increased by more than 60%.

The study discussed two methods in two parts consisting of 30 women in the first method and 60 women in the second method. The mean age of women in the first study was 22.67 while in the second study, the mean age was 20.62 years old.

The researchers correlated large pupil sizes among men with sexual arousal. They also found out that women who got attracted most to men with the largest pupils preferred the bad boy type. To quote, "In the present study, females who exhibited preferences for male photos showing heightened sexual arousal also revealed preferences for bad boys as dating partners." (p. 226).

Conclusion

The eyefuck routine is one good way to build your sexual attractiveness by more than 60%. Why? It makes you look like a bad boy which makes women horny.

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Of course. If you barely look a woman in the eye while interacting, how can you or she expect that you're capable of fucking her?

The stronger your eye-contact is, the higher the sexual tension.

Women know this game too. They will shit-test you with it.

I talked to a wonderful girl the other day, and at a moment there was an awkward silence (I tend to put in awkward silences on purpose to create sexual tension and give me reason to have very strong eye contact).

She played the game back. We stood there looking at each other for over 20 seconds. The people around us started commenting stuff like 'what are you guys doing?'. Neither of us broke it. We kept staring at each other until an outside source broke it up.

Both of us knew what was going on.

I thank the sex-gods for discovering the power of E.C. It is by far one of the most powerful lessons to learn in terms of sexual tension.

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The stronger your eye-contact is, the higher the sexual tension.

Women know this game too. They will shit-test you with it.
Hmm. This made me wonder. Several days ago, I field tested one PUA routine I found here. It was about the blowjob lure.

I smudged two spoonfuls of peanut butter on my erect penis. While the forum member claimed that his neighbor field tested this technique on his dog, I didn't. I still found it morally reprehensible to let a dog slurp her tongue on my dick due to my strict Catholic family upbringing. I'm a very religiously biased person. I'm loyal to my faith. What if the dog was a Muslim?

Besides, I find this test the dog too risky. I was thinking, what if the neighbor's Rottweiler thought that my dick was some kind of a rodent who splashed itself in some peanut butter? The Rottweiler seems to have a bad temper. He just might chomp the pecker off thinking he's fighting an aggressive reddish rat and might play tug-of-war with the nuts too out of sheer anger.

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To make the long story short, HB8's pupils dilated when she saw my penis partially covered with peanut butter. Or was it when she saw the peanut butter on my penis? The question now is, was the chick sexually attracted to my penis or was she motivated more with the peanut butter?

The reason why I'm asking this is because I want to buy the chick a jar of Jif every now and then. My theory is that when she spreads the peanut butter on her early morning hot pan de sal (freshly baked salted bread) for breakfast, she'll immediately think of my penis as a conditioned reflex. Intrusive thinking can be a very powerful tool of seducing the woman to fall in love with you.

If she was sexually attracted to my penis, then well and good. However, if she was more attracted to the peanut butter rather than my dick, then I've got a big problem on my hands.

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^If she wants the peanut-butter, she'll have to get it off the penis nevertheless.

Win-win.

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Sexual attraction/or not + Escalation(this can bring attraction, just watch hidden camara japanese massage porn, if you do not believe me) + Emotional Connection(or not)+ penis in the Vagina...
As much as I agree that physical stimulation does increase arousal, I don't think that porn is good example for it :S.


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Sexual attraction/or not + Escalation(this can bring attraction, just watch hidden camara japanese massage porn, if you do not believe me) + Emotional Connection(or not)+ penis in the Vagina...
As much as I agree that physical stimulation does increase arousal, I don't think that porn is good example for it :S.
hahahaha! hidden real life japanese massage hidden camara... no just porn... lol!

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Kino Cues from the Girl that Signal the F-Close

Aside from and before any indicators of consent like the girl going alone to your place, these kino cues signal the f-close. But for you to interpret these cues accurately, you should see the prerequisite triangular gazing of the girl from your left eye to your right eye or from the right eye to your left eye and then down to your crotch area. The girl's pupils will likewise dilate to the maximum size. These touch cues are based on observation only from actual f-close experiences and I have yet to find the scientific basis for these.
  • 1. Kino on your shoulder. In this case, the woman will touch you for a fraction of a second or more by your shoulder area right at your deltoid muscle or trapezius. A woman will test for the hardness of your muscles in the shoulder region, when she's satisfied with the touch test she'll initiate a sleepover or bait you to ask her to your place or some other f-place. During your f-routines, you'll notice that the woman will constantly rub both of her hands on your shoulder muscles while you're banging her. The touch before the f-close could be a simple tap. Note that a tap on your shoulder is not normal since most girls will tap or play punch your biceps or arms instead of your shoulder. The shoulder tap also stays a bit longer than the tap on the arm. The touch could also be her fingers pressing on your shoulder muscles to test for hardness. She'll do this in subtle ways but you'll know her touch feels different when you have experienced the touch of several women friends or lovers. The potential lover's touch has an erotic vibe into it and you'll notice some nervousness from the girl. She'll also swallow her saliva while doing this and will stutter a bit when saying something.

    2. Kino on your abs. The woman's touch will usually be a subtle touch instead of an obvious massage or rub. She'll tap your abs in a joking manner or she'll run her hand to your back and then pinch the side of your belly. During your f-routines, you'll notice that the woman will regularly place her hands by the side of your belly to pull you closer while you're banging her. After every round, she'll also have a tendency to keep on rubbing at your belly.

    3. Kino on your chest. If a woman you barely knew or have only known for the first time greets you with a touch on your chest, she's testing for the hardness of your chest muscles. Combined with her triangular gazing, this is a tell-tale sign that with proper escalation she'll go for your f-close. During make outs, watch for the this cue. While kissing, a woman who constantly rubs your chest is ready for the f-close. Of course, the best indicator of consent is still when she takes your cock in her hands. But if you're not sure if her LMR is genuine or not, the chest rub will indicate that her LMR is for show purposes only with no real intent of preventing you from executing the f-close. In between rounds of your f-routines, she'll rest her head on your chest while listening to your heartbeats. She'll also regularly rub your chest while both of you are conversing in between rounds. As with all of the other kino cues, a woman who gave you this kino cue will keep on rubbing your chest while you're banging her.

    4. Kino on your biceps. This should be differentiated from the simple tap on your arm or biceps. This more like a pinch or full hold in a fraction of a second, again, the woman will be testing for the hardness of your biceps. You can either fail or pass this kino test. A biceps girl will likewise keep on rubbing your biceps in between rounds in your f-routines.

    5. Kino on your butt. A woman is seldom bold enough to touch or grab your butt. At the very least, you'll catch her checking out your butt or whispering to one of her girl or gay friend about the aesthetic values of your butt. She'll make sure that her 'whisper' will be loud enough so you can hear her comment. The bold ones will actually grab your butt during and after the f-routines. It's rare for a lady to grab your butt before the f-close but you're 100% sure she's ready for the f-close when she grabs your butt. The more subtle ways that a woman will touch your butt will tend to be an 'accidental' brush on your butt. Make no mistake about it. The 2nd or 3rd brush on your butt IS deliberate.
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Feel free to discuss and add more of your first hand experiences and insights. Once again, thanks in advance. :twisted:

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Kino Cues from the Girl that Signal the F-Close

Aside from and before any indicators of consent like the girl going alone to your place, these kino cues signal the f-close. But for you to interpret these cues accurately, you should see the prerequisite triangular gazing of the girl from your left eye to your right eye or from the right eye to your left eye and then down to your crotch area. The girl's pupils will likewise dilate to the maximum size. These touch cues are based on observation only from actual f-close experiences and I have yet to find the scientific basis for these.
  • 1. Kino on your shoulder. In this case, the woman will touch you for a fraction of a second or more by your shoulder area right at your deltoid muscle or trapezius. A woman will test for the hardness of your muscles in the shoulder region, when she's satisfied with the touch test she'll initiate a sleepover or bait you to ask her to your place or some other f-place. During your f-routines, you'll notice that the woman will constantly rub both of her hands on your shoulder muscles while you're banging her. The touch before the f-close could be a simple tap. Note that a tap on your shoulder is not normal since most girls will tap or play punch your biceps or arms instead of your shoulder. The shoulder tap also stays a bit longer than the tap on the arm. The touch could also be her fingers pressing on your shoulder muscles to test for hardness. She'll do this in subtle ways but you'll know her touch feels different when you have experienced the touch of several women friends or lovers. The potential lover's touch has an erotic vibe into it and you'll notice some nervousness from the girl. She'll also swallow her saliva while doing this and will stutter a bit when saying something.

    2. Kino on your abs. The woman's touch will usually be a subtle touch instead of an obvious massage or rub. She'll tap your abs in a joking manner or she'll run her hand to your back and then pinch the side of your belly. During your f-routines, you'll notice that the woman will regularly place her hands by the side of your belly to pull you closer while you're banging her. After every round, she'll also have a tendency to keep on rubbing at your belly.

    3. Kino on your chest. If a woman you barely knew or have only known for the first time greets you with a touch on your chest, she's testing for the hardness of your chest muscles. Combined with her triangular gazing, this is a tell-tale sign that with proper escalation she'll go for your f-close. During make outs, watch for the this cue. While kissing, a woman who constantly rubs your chest is ready for the f-close. Of course, the best indicator of consent is still when she takes your cock in her hands. But if you're not sure if her LMR is genuine or not, the chest rub will indicate that her LMR is for show purposes only with no real intent of preventing you from executing the f-close. In between rounds of your f-routines, she'll rest her head on your chest while listening to your heartbeats. She'll also regularly rub your chest while both of you are conversing in between rounds. As with all of the other kino cues, a woman who gave you this kino cue will keep on rubbing your chest while you're banging her.

    4. Kino on your biceps. This should be differentiated from the simple tap on your arm or biceps. This more like a pinch or full hold in a fraction of a second, again, the woman will be testing for the hardness of your biceps. You can either fail or pass this kino test. A biceps girl will likewise keep on rubbing your biceps in between rounds in your f-routines.

    5. Kino on your butt. A woman is seldom bold enough to touch or grab your butt. At the very least, you'll catch her checking out your butt or whispering to one of her girl or gay friend about the aesthetic values of your butt. She'll make sure that her 'whisper' will be loud enough so you can hear her comment. The bold ones will actually grab your butt during and after the f-routines. It's rare for a lady to grab your butt before the f-close but you're 100% sure she's ready for the f-close when she grabs your butt. The more subtle ways that a woman will touch your butt will tend to be an 'accidental' brush on your butt. Make no mistake about it. The 2nd or 3rd brush on your butt IS deliberate.
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Debunkers are welcome. I've observed that more angles are presented when debunkers join in a discussion. You get to see angles to a situation that you have never seen before and debunkers contribute, sometimes even more, to the quality of the original insight. If I don't answer any opposing insights or opinions, I consider these valid points and deserve to stand on their own merits. The general rule is always general. Debunkers meanwhile show us what the exceptions are.

Feel free to discuss and add more of your first hand experiences and insights. Once again, thanks in advance. :twisted:

^ mental masturbation....With all due respect...If you worry about some women giving you cues to f-close... No dude will ever get laid, women either tell you flat out they want you, or you have to work for it(seduce even if minimal), unless is super obvious usually by exposing themselves, showing skin, and facial expressions...

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Rather than looking and waiting for a woman to kino you in order to 'figure out' whether or not she wants to have sex with you - it's better to see how she is receptive to YOUR kino.

After all, there are girls out there that are too shy to return the amount of kino that you seem to demand. Does that mean they don't want to fuck? No.

I say worry more about your kino than hers . . .

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After all, there are girls out there that are too shy to return the amount of kino that you seem to demand. Does that mean they don't want to fuck? No.
It would be interesting to see how to f-close those shy girls. We still need to properly manage the kino escalation so it wouldn't be considered sexual harassment or shouldn't turn into a sexual offense. It would be a great risk to our careers and social standing in our communities if we got too far to the point of kino escalating iron bars and being branded as sex offenders.

The kino cues above are actually reciprocal kinoes from 'not so shy' girls. If you can share some kino techniques or insights on shy girls, I would greatly appreciate it. :twisted:

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^ mental masturbation....With all due respect...If you worry about some women giving you cues to f-close... No dude will ever get laid, women either tell you flat out they want you, or you have to work for it(seduce even if minimal), unless is super obvious usually by exposing themselves, showing skin, and facial expressions...
Actually, this is not about worrying. It's about reading the nonverbal cues so we can easily progress to the next stage. But I see your point.

Newbies worry too much about IOIs when they should be interacting with women. IOIs don't really mean a thing unless you amplify that initial attraction through actual interaction with the girl.

This could turn into an added concern for newbies indeed like IOIs. It could also be an excuse for newbies not to go for the f-close. :twisted:

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After all, there are girls out there that are too shy to return the amount of kino that you seem to demand. Does that mean they don't want to fuck? No.
It would be interesting to see how to f-close those shy girls. We still need to properly manage the kino escalation so it wouldn't be considered sexual harassment or shouldn't turn into a sexual offense. It would be a great risk to our careers and social standing in our communities if we got too far to the point of kino escalating iron bars and being branded as sex offenders.

The kino cues above are actually reciprocal kinoes from 'not so shy' girls. If you can share some kino techniques or insights on shy girls, I would greatly appreciate it. :twisted:
It's not sexual harassment unless she says 'no' or shows a great deal of resistance - and you continue pushing it.

If you sexually escalate and she accepts it in the sense that she smiles, lightly touches you back and keeps strong eye contact (I'd say the best way of measuring a girl's interest is through the eyes. Reading eye-contact > relying on her kinoing you) - it's OK to take it a step further. If she keeps ^that up, take another step.

As simple as that really.

If you back off every time you don't receive some of the kino from the list you gave - you'll never really manage to seduce shy girls or girls that are not so touchy as others.

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After all, there are girls out there that are too shy to return the amount of kino that you seem to demand. Does that mean they don't want to fuck? No.
It would be interesting to see how to f-close those shy girls. We still need to properly manage the kino escalation so it wouldn't be considered sexual harassment or shouldn't turn into a sexual offense. It would be a great risk to our careers and social standing in our communities if we got too far to the point of kino escalating iron bars and being branded as sex offenders.

The kino cues above are actually reciprocal kinoes from 'not so shy' girls. If you can share some kino techniques or insights on shy girls, I would greatly appreciate it. :twisted:
It's not sexual harassment unless she says 'no' or shows a great deal of resistance - and you continue pushing it.

If you sexually escalate and she accepts it in the sense that she smiles, lightly touches you back and keeps strong eye contact (I'd say the best way of measuring a girl's interest is through the eyes. Reading eye-contact > relying on her kinoing you) - it's OK to take it a step further. If she keeps ^that up, take another step.

As simple as that really.

If you back off every time you don't receive some of the kino from the list you gave - you'll never really manage to seduce shy girls or girls that are not so touchy as others.
Women usually resist, about 1-3 times(physically or verbally), so they do not look like sluts, now if they say no, read body language, tone and demeanor, too make sure you do not get in trouble and is not a shit test, as you get better and better you do not even encounter resistance, specially if you turn her on correctly(massage/dance is the best way or going pre-emptive sexual in text or verbal). now in a club and a bar you have to calibrate, and minimally escalate while looking for compliance then you keep going...

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^ mental masturbation....With all due respect...If you worry about some women giving you cues to f-close... No dude will ever get laid, women either tell you flat out they want you, or you have to work for it(seduce even if minimal), unless is super obvious usually by exposing themselves, showing skin, and facial expressions...
Actually, this is not about worrying. It's about reading the nonverbal cues so we can easily progress to the next stage. But I see your point.

Newbies worry too much about IOIs when they should be interacting with women. IOIs don't really mean a thing unless you amplify that initial attraction through actual interaction with the girl.

This could turn into an added concern for newbies indeed like IOIs. It could also be an excuse for newbies not to go for the f-close. :twisted:
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If you sexually escalate and she accepts it in the sense that she smiles, lightly touches you back and keeps strong eye contact (I'd say the best way of measuring a girl's interest is through the eyes. Reading eye-contact > relying on her kinoing you) - it's OK to take it a step further. If she keeps ^that up, take another step.
Shy girls have a tendency to look down. They are also too shy to keep eye contact. Aside from the obvious 'no' or physically ejecting away from you (by then, it's too late to manage the risks when she physically ejects or says no), what other techniques can you recommend from the extremely shy ones? :twisted:

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