I expect a shitload of new PUAs in training to give me shit for this: but I figured to make a point very clear: doing Mystery Method is pointless.

Yes. I said it. It's terrible! Shock shock. You don't need to do it. It hardly works, and even when it does, the results marginally convey too much of an indirect approach where guys get lost in the matrix with a girl confused about the role dynamic.

Anytime you meet a woman, most of them try to put you into categories right away: potential to fuck, no potential (friends etc). If you do Mystery Method, you are on a one-way train to no fucksville.

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So I am writing this post to finally tell everyone: DON'T DO MYSTERY METHOD.

Rather...read it...understand its importance in the history of PUA and take away some of the key philosophies of disinterest (which truly is inner game rather than scripted) and the rest is just this: BE YOU.
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REAL GAME:

What does it mean to "BE YOU" though? SELF-IMPROVEMENT. But this isn't about me saying "get your 6 pack abs" (realistically these wont ever show through your shirt)...

It means first of all realizing looks play a role in terms of value. Obviously, we are never psychic. A woman who grows up around certain stereotypes of men or of a certain skin color is naturally more comfortable to them. Similar to if you were to suddenly move countries as a man to Africa from Western Civilization (mostly white girls)



You will find comfort is a huge player in terms of first impression, and essentially: value women rate you.

What do you mean when women rate YOU?

They rate you just like us men rate their looks solely and on top of stereotype assumptions/comfort levels. Assume a woman's last boyfriend was someone who looked just like you. He was not a good part of her life.

Obviously, a smart woman one would think not all people are created equal...but bad experiences affect people in ways beyond logic: emotions and comfort.

If you come up spewing amazing game, you HAVE A LOWER chance of sleeping with a specific girl because to her you're a HB(hot boy) 5 as the interaction goes on.

All of these first impressions can be based on your RACE, AGE (if you're balding/older) COLOR OF SKIN, ANY CELEBRITIES YOU MAY RESEMBLE, HEIGHT, FASHION, BODY LANGUAGE, WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE WEARING RAY-BAN SHADES, ETC.

Now this is not to say you cant turn this around, but using 'GAME' does not guarantee you can IMMEDIATELY GET laid given certain values.


If you are 300 lbs, overweight, balding, these count AGAINST your value.

I hate to say this, but it's a fact that looks DO matter, but if you are extremely good looking - it is NOT game -but yes it very much helps in terms of realistically demographics. If you're 35 and fucking 20 year olds, realize most 20 year olds DONT want to fuck you....that's just their value-based system. Regardless of hot-shot confidence, she won't fuck you.

Lack of game directly ties into good looks (people who try to use their looks for game). If you believe your looks will skyrocket you with a woman that's HB10 and beyond - think again my friends. But if you think you can be overweight and score a woman that mountain-hikes everyday, it's going to be a VALUE BATTLE.

The only instance in which an extremely good-looking male WILL IMMEDIATELY have "EXCELLENT GAME" in an ideal world is in the female who he finds that values looks above EVERYTHING. A woman that does not care if the man can do VIRTUALLY next to anything (usually these sort of girls are the ones that approach the hot stud so confident in his looks). This does happen, but the man has no choice.


SO WHATS THE ANSWER:


There has certainly been a lot of debate. Indirect/Direct, LOOKS matter or they don't? Some of these seem obvious, but there's a dark truth never discussed: stereotype and first impression values that women automatically give men...these HONE in on LOGISTICS.

Which leads us to the most important point:

GAME IS A NUMBERS GAME VERSUS YOUR OWN GAME

The only issue is you WILL NEVER, EVER KNOW WHAT VALUE THE WOMAN HAS FOR YOU INITIALLY. It could be higher than another persons 'stranger value'

If a girl naturally feels more comfortable with white men, then her value of a stranger that is white will generally be more lenient than the man who is black, brown, or anything else....this is a hard reality to grasp..and this leads to why different men, doing the very exact thing, have different results with certain women.

Game is at its core - NUMBERS game.

So...we all need to realize this does not mean you must necessarily do 1000 approaches, or you can't get that "special girl" to like you...just that you can't be BALLS deep in mental masturbation when you find out she just doesn't like you no matter how much game you spit.

LOGISTICS: OUT OF YOUR CONTROL. (HER MOOD, SOMETIMES SHE IS MORE LENIENT TO PEOPLE of your STEREOTYPE, OR SHE JUST GENERALLY DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK)

Most girls - generally dont give a fuck for race, etc...but it has a very subconscious effect. People of color in the game will see this amazingly most often (asians, indians, blacks, etc.) but realize EVERY GIRL IS DIFFERENT. EVERY GIRL.

So the true reality is : you can only focus on what you guys can control...and this goes into a deeply rooted INNER game issue most men have: AM I ENOUGH?


The fact is...even IF YOU AREN'T to her, its a matter of opinion to her. It's not really you. FOCUS on what YOU can control. The GAME (how to not be creepy, how to talk better, not slouch, learning to touch women, hug them) but really realize even with the BEST GAME....


You can still fucking get blown out like the amateur.


This leads to an interesting question: is PICK-UP a real skill or is it a numbers game? In reality, its BOTH. It's personal development, and a numbers game...especially since people are not simply machines you recite routines and lines to.

Good Luck Everyone,

This has been one of my major contributions..and I feel a lot of people will fight me on the VALUE aspect of women when they first LAY eyes on you...but thats the point. Women, just like men, rate guys.

It's just reality..I'm sure you all understand this to some level.

I like this posts.

It discusses that the rating system of people is based on values. Women and men for that matter value different attributes different and have their own personal scale. If you are lacking in one another positive attribute can make up for it depending on the woman's value system.

Of course looks matter. The question is if they're everything. And they're not. Every once in a while someone who is the opposite of attractive (or what we think as attractive) becomes a sex symbol.

Take Peter Dinklage:

http://www.comediva.com/peter-dinklage- ... -man-alive

Obviously, it helps to be tall, with a symmetrical face. But even looks are things you can control with stuff like working out and dressing well.

And beyond that, a good looking guy who can't talk to a girl will not get her. He'll bore her. He'll ruin the attraction by saying something stupid. Meanwhile, a 300 pound guy could find himself in a conversation with a hot girl and blow her away.

The last thing is exactly what you said. Every girl is different. Some will have a thing for skinny nerds, some will have a thing for "big teddy bears", and some will be outright racist. You can't do anything about this except keep putting yourself out there, and own what it is that you got.

While I didn't read your post, I do agree MM is a joke.

Just like any type of marketing, convince people that they're lacking something and then offer them a product or service to fill that void. Worked well for creating a consumerist culture.Corporate America (through the work of Edward Bernes, Sigmund Freud's nephew) figured out that by appealing to people's unconscious wants, whims, and desires you can sell them virtually anything. People are no longer BUYING an item, but rather buying into a new lifestyle/identity.

Picking up is like playing lottery intelligently with strategies instead of letting the machine random your numbers. And of course, the more tickets you buy, the more chance you will win.

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I totally agree with this post, especially about MM. Even though I believe his method has still it´s place, namely in places where women are less aware of the pickup-arts (whatever method) because it didn´t hit the mainstream media so much. Not to mention for guys who simply have NO natural game whatsoever...
To me it was clear already while reading "The Game" that applying MM 1on1 will not work for me, that I would actually feel like a dork trying to follow such a kind of protocol... But it helped me realize the amount of natural game I always had but wasn´t aware of, that approach anxiety is the only thing I need to get over and things run smoothly. What Style describes in his book was mainly an initiation for me. It´s not the method that counts but the realization that picking up women is something on can rationalize and analyse in order to get better...

And really: Anyone who thinks there is a method that will able ANY guy to get ANY woman is an idiot. Maybe this claim can be sold to many AFCs and RAFCs because most of them are rather young and simply lack the general experience with life as such and women/girls in particular to simply know better.

It is a game of skill AND a game of numbers indeed, Captain! Truer words have rarely been spoken. You are a rather wise man for someone who looks younger then 30 lol Keep posting!!!

Thank you guys.

Everything, literally everything you all have said is EXACTLY what I wanted to highlight. I loved the analogy of playing the lottery more intelligently. It was one that actually made me laugh.

I agree with also how some women have a thing for big teddy bears etc. The reality is AFCs get so caught up in certain material things, they forget realistically that none of these things matter and that for some women, all of these things matter. It's essentially a post which I think needed to be seriously written.

Now, just because a woman is only into skinny white guys doesn't mean you can't use game to increase your 'lottery' (sex chances), but this value based system becomes a big thing in terms of Long-term relationships.

I've been with some girls that literally (as I was told I look like Kumar + James franco) that they never thought they'd be with a brown guy.... I'm not overly brown, but I've accepted a reality that obviously what I am is what I am in the mirror - regardless that my own value of myself is a 10. To some women, I'm like a 5 or 7.

This has a lot to also do with Long-term relationships. Most of the girls that I had sex with obviously had different beliefs, and values about LTR and some were...regardless of having amazing sex with me...partly racist. I feel racism is no one's fault unless they are purposefully saying "screw such and such race."

Just like us men like certain types of women (I dont see myself dating black girls) doesn't mean it's a shallow concept. Some women just want kids with white hair, blue eyes.

This reality is a real one in terms of long-term relationships. And sometimes...it's shocking how many women try to evaluate a guy for long-term relationships even if that guy and girl just wants sex anyways.

Wanted to bump this up.

Having your inner game on point and establishing your own individual swag will help greatly.

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Seems like due to fucking useless posts about looks, I needed to bump this more.

A lot of truth here.

You gotta make peace with it. Part of that is appreciating everyone's prejudices and "standards". But part of that is knowing that you can (sometimes) be that person's exception if you, yourself, are exceptional. Crossing a racial barrier, whatever it is, can be a big deal the first time it happens. But you realize it happens all the time to guys who are secure with themselves and can handle themselves well in all different situations.

You should use this philosophy as an opener the next time you approach. See what kind of response you would get.

Bumping again..because of multiple stupidity topics of looks COUNTLESS fucking times from COUNTLESS new people.

What do you exactly mean by "key philosophies of disinterest " from MM?


I don't like MM either,it's too artificial and confusing to me.
Great post.