Bigot.

It depends on how you interpret the word. If you mean misogynists then no, in general no. There are some of us who are like that but the main part are nice guys. Especially the ones who has gone past that period where they just need to get their F-close numbers up so that they build up their confidence. During that period, its normally all about them but after that, they are nice.

If you mean bigot as in not accepting other peoples right to have their own opinion, well that is another story. We all decide to follow one dojo and most of us are desperately stuck with the one we pick and hate on everybody else from other dojos. That is why I always tell people to try studying all aspects instead of just one.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I was attacked by several members for stating the obvious, Im a great PUA. They think only people who have been on the forum for years are PUA.

Just learn as much as you can from me and HOPE they dont ban me.

Meh, I definitely totally respect women and their struggles in society.

You don't need to have a negative or condescending attitude towards women to be good at picking them up. Thinking you need that is overcompensating. In general I find that negative attitude is shared by:

1) Guys new to PUA who are surging with their newfound powers & confidence
2) Douchebags

So you have finally noticed that about yourself huh, progress.

Captain, please explain whose butt I was kissing.

Considering my comment was not aimed at anyone here and to the link the OP put up.

Comprehending basic English is a must for this forum.

Also for no other reason that being a douchebag I will say this; when someone randomly says "Hey I'm not a murderer" generally we think different.

Or in The Simpsons when Bart accuses China of not being cool, the ambassador exclaims "Hey!! China still cool! You pay later! You pay later!", do we really think they are cool after saying that?

You said "take it as a compliment" Let him take it how it was meant

and stop defending the trolls

You do know understanding English is extremely important right?

Please explain whose butt I was kissing. You're reply was 'him'. . .

Read it again.

Notice how I posted this in a thread about biggotry? Notice how I didn't quote any of yours or WM comments?

The logical, if not common sense, conclusion would be that I was referring to 870's post: stating that being called a Bigot is a compliment by these people.

Which was really just a joke but underling the fact I don't really think it matters as whoever wrote it obviously doesn't understand that this is simply a community/database for improving our dating lives.

So its dating advice just like girls have only guys have to do the chasing/meeting and therefore it became 'pick up'.

So bigotry is simply a label someone who cant comprehend this would put on it. Or maybe he just took what it seems like on the surface or what a friend told him it was about.

Therefore his conclusion is completely void and pointless.

Captain, it seems like you are so caught up in your own little world, you didnt for one second think that others were referring to the original post. And yes it is your fault for interpreting it wrong.

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Captain Catch
show dont tell, the members of this forum will judge you on your merits.

In other news stop trolling Captain Catch, you are pissing off a lot of the wrong people.

How many PUA's have gone "heavy kino" with girls who didn't want it? How often has persistence strayed into the territory of something more sinister?

The standard pattern of thought of a "college rapist" is that girls rarely slap him and have yet to report him, so that must mean he's perfectly fine.

A lot of "escalate and persist" PUAs hold to a mantra that ignores the choices of the women they meet.


"if a girl says no she really means yes"
-WTF is that suppose to mean?

How many time have you seen a husband ask a wife if "everything is ok" or "Do you need help?" and the wife answers with "Everything is fine/No I got it myself." Do you think the wife really means what she's saying? NO. She wants help, she wants you to dig deeper emotionally. Is it confusing as fuck? Yes. Does it make Sense? no. But those are the games that women play.

What other explanation can you come up with for the girl who says "she isn't going to sleep with you" or "I'm not that kind of girl" only to fuck you later that night?

Discard what she says. Pay extremely close attention to what she does.

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Well I tend to pick up with the philosophy of: No battle plan survives contact with the enemy, which is really REALLY true. The real world is always full of surprises.

Kino for instance is not always appropriate and, sometimes other escalations are better. You have to gauge her personality and situation to see which one is best. Like, I was attracted to this nerdy chick (I have a thing for them) at a programming conference I went to, and there wasn't a lot of heavy Kino I could do in front of the crowd that was there. Doing so there would've made her personally & professionally uncomfortable, and definitely cast me as a creep in front of her and a bunch of other professionals. Instead I escalated by inviting her to play a few deathmatches on a fast-paced mobile game that relied on fast skill with her on the couch at her booth. It was fun and we laughed, traded barbs, and got into each other. It worked purrrfectly to get her to come out later that night where I could seal the deal. And what's nice is we're still friends, and help each other out with our business goals now and then.

The problem with some PUAs and definitely PUA students is that they tend to rely more on mechanical usage of techniques or dogmatic adherence to PUA ideologies (especially douchebag ideologies) than they do on sizing up the situation correctly and adapting. That's quite obviously dumb because real life is always full of surprises and never conforms to anybody's ideology or strategy all the time, so you have to be verrrrrrry flexible.

Tools are what they are, tools. There is no "guaranteed method" for everything like a lot of PUAs selling shit want you to believe. They say that crap to sell dudes the crap they're selling. A guy's personality is at the core of his PUA skill and the tools are used when they fit the situation.

And as far as attitude, I think this community can sometimes have a lack of free thought. There's a lot of PUA teachers & PUA peers saying that you need to act a specific way or do a specific thing to get women, and that you should think about or treat women in very specific ways. Fucking nonsense, use the skills to enrich your life and keep living it according to what you think is right.

Like I always treat my closes with very high respect, get to really know them, and try to become their friends. Some of these girls have become my really close friends and I can rely on them (as they can on me) to be there & help. And the ones I've closed in the professional circle have definitely opened doors for me in various organizations I wanted to sell to.

I think those of us who are nice prove that nice guys can fuck all they want too!