Im trying this one tonight, I will post my responses. I love cf openers for night game because its up front from the start but you start off one step ahead.

Try it enough times and you're bound to open somebody. Then again, try any opener enough times and you're bound to open somebody.

Last night I attempted all cocky funny openers. I delivered them waaaaaaay too strongly which resulted in no closes and also no hook points on all but two sets. I was all push and no pull, way too challenging. Even though all girls on the Gold Coast, Q.L.D Austrlaia have a bitch sheild three times higher then their actual hb rating I sucked balls. Lesson learnt, dont come on too strongly with cf. (I also have a quesiton and that is should you leave it untill maybe after you have opened and demonstrated higher value before you should cocky funny???)
What do you guy reccomend from your experience?

Here are the three attempts I had with this posts opener, which was super fun to try.

Attempt No 1:
ME: NO.....
HB7: Big Smile.... Yesss then walks off (I later found out that she is the face to all the stories about a girl my mate has been shagging)


Attempt No 2:
Me: No
6: NO what....
Me: Smile, no your not coming home with me tonight
6: Whatever cunt...... walks off (she actually said cunt)


Attempt No 3:
ME:No.....
HB7:No, what?
Me: No, your not coming home with me tonight?
HB7: That pick up line is shit, and I have a boyfriend over there

This is why I like indirect game, initially do not make your interest so apparent and just act like you're actually there to ask them their opinion or something. This way, it's much harder for her bitch shield to bounce you out, because you're just asking for her opinion and not hitting on her. It's like Style said, come in UNDER the radar and you won't get shot down as much.

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Roads is right on what he's saying.

At the same time, there's nothing wrong with opening with C & F, IF your personality is right for it. You HAVE to be able to bring it across right. If you can bring it across right, you are basically in from that point on. They know you're cocky, you transition to funny, so they know you've got a great sense of humor. They already love those two traits about you. But, again, you HAVE to bring it across right.

Like for me, practically anybody on here and in my life personally will tell you I'm a VERY cocky, confident person. In fact, I'VE pushed girls away at times because I've been SO cocky. But, then again, I've also ATTRACTED girls because I'm so cocky too. Girls are all different.

Ok, with your 1st case, I don't see how that one could have went any different anyway, lol, given your explanation. That's just funny.

The second one, I don't know because I wasn't there. That might have been salvagable if done slightly differently, and maybe with different body language. Body language counts for a lot too.

The third one, IF she really did have a b/f, then that's just the way that one worked too. Some girls won't cheat, some will.

But, as I said, overall, it's all in how you carry yourself. If you have a cocky personality, you'll have a lot easier time with this opener than if you're not naturally a cocky person.

Normally cocky people have a more intense form of EC, and more confident body language, and when you're around them, you just KNOW they are the shit. So, when someone like that says a line like this . . . automatically the girl tends to be intrigued, and slightly confused at the same time, which is good. She's confused because a part of her biology WANTS you, but then you've already told her no, so she doesn't know how to handle you. Because you ARE confident in who you are, and she loves that. So, now she has to immediately start qualifying herself.

Hope that makes it clearer.

Hey thanks for the ideas. I dont think im quite done with this one yet so i'll try it out again tonight but with a few minor differences. Persistance conqures all things!!! I will focus on eye contact and body launguage that will be parrallel with what I am saying. I wont directly face the target like i did last time and I will also false time constraint with body language a bit of body rocking or something. When the response does work I will run an opionon opener or dhv. I have to say that on the whole I usually am a person who bust people on things all the time, it has been hardwired into my head from my parents so I dont have a hard time mking it congruent throughout the whole pick up but when I tired it the other night I didnt have the confidence level or bodylanguage needed to pull this off. I will post how I go this time.

I have been thinking of another cf opener that I will try tonight. It all come about as my friends and I were remenscing about the times we would walk up to a group of girls on the beach then throw our arm around one and say to our friends hey have you met my girlfriend yet. (I actually tried it that night and it worked pretty well but I got shot down in later game). I thought about trying this again with a variation of saying 'hey this is my ex girlfriend' then something like 'sorry, you just wernt the right girl for me. But you can still be my friend'. I will try this also and see how it goes.

Tripp, I'm gonna try this opener on my next sarge. Not my style, but then again it didn't stop Style.

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Cheers Tripp ... This worked for me tonight!

She giggled and said that she thought I was cute and asked me if I would dance with her ... I made her beg for a few minutes, and after a dance she forced her number on me when I told her I had to go.

Excellent TRS. Good job on your gaming after the opener too.

Roads, give me your report.

rawlines, those areas of body language that you mentioned in your lastest post here are very important. You do still need to come in at an angle, so you're not confrontational. You DEFINITELY need to have EC with this opener, because you HAVE to be confident in yourself to deliver it. The FTC probably won't matter so much, but it wouldn't hurt throwing it in there just to make sure. Also, you said you would run an opinion "opener" and dhv after this. Listen if you use this to open, then you've "opened" already. You can still run an opinion routine, but it's no longer an "opener", because you've already opened them.

I like Direct game, it is less work than indirect, it isn't a waste of time.

if i see a girl i wanna game...confident smile

'hey, you're good looking. Is there a nice person with a nice personality behind the beauty i should know?'

That is so much better than fuckin around with stuff like 'hey let me ask you a quick question'

Good opener LA but the 'you're not coming home with me tonight is too much'

try sumthing along the lines of,
PUA: No, *smile shadily*
HB: No what?/What
PUA: I said no, No you can't have my number *smiling*

Again, the whole opener won't work for everybody, BUT glad you liked the rest of it.