Lol. I'm thoroughly enjoying all of your posts. BTW. my posts later today are going to kick so much ass.

Tripp: BF #2 is pretty. that's all he's good for. He might have been replaced tonight by a very VERY pretty guy with something to offer to the world. We'll see how I feel later

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Dear Zip,

Do you or your girl friends mind if a guy sweats when he's talking to you? How about if he blushes, or his ears get red? If so, how much, and would you say this is unrecoverable regardless of his game?

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OK, enough of the softballs, you ready for the big leagues...?

"..something to offer the world?"

That's an interesting statement.

Care to elaborate?

The reason I ask, is I'm often amused when young, pretty, and often much less experienced chicks act like judge, jury and executioner all rolled up into one. I find their batting averages are normally not very good (guys aren't either).

Not questioning your judgment in the least. After all, it's your decision entirely who you want to spend time with.., or not. And of course you must base this on some sort of criteria beyond pure physical attraction. Just trying to get a feel for how you come to such conclusions based on such limited information, since guys at this age can all be considered 'works in progress' anyway (I'm reminded of the phrase.. 'behind every good man, is a good woman'). Not to mention the 'mystery' that's often crucial for a guy to maintain to retain a higher value young womans interest.

You of course being someone who apparently has more on the ball as far as dealing with men successfully than the average chicky.

Is it purely an emotional thing, social climbing, or is this similar to shopping for a grapefruit, Mr. Goodbar, a new shirt or something?

One more thing? What are your relationship goals? You do have relationship goals don't you? Or is it all just a fun, or physical thing at this stage in your life? And are you open about this with the guys you meet? Or is the young female assumption that all guys are just looking for easy or cheap sex anyway they can get it with no long term interest whatsoever?

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Zip, I sometimes find women get ticked off, when they mistake my friendliness and natural game for attraction or interest.

I suspect that you as an attractive woman deal with this frequently.

Do you have a solution for this, other than just trying to be something I'm not, or applying the male equivalent of a 'bitch shield', etc..?

It sometimes appears to me that young women who think they are more physically attractive than my wife, feel like they should be able to easily manipulate me for sex, take her place, etc... And when they find that they cannot, or when I don't behave as they think I should (like a dog looking for a better doghouse, etc..), they seek to retaliate in some way socially.

How should I deal with such predatory women, other than just avoiding them entirely?

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Your ideas on new opportunities are extremely interesting, and I really didn't consider that part of my comment of "changing the world." In regards to the point in question: of course, I used slight hyperbole to get my point across, but maybe I didn't need to.

Completely disregarding the point of PU (to get with women,) the "leak" is what I think has untapped potential. Now, I know that I am not the first person to 1.) notice 2.) theorize 3.) or experiment with this notion. However, I do believe that the number one residual effect with the potential to be taken in a completely new direction is internal game.

Without getting all Utopia on everyone, I'll just leave it at this: With the mainstream attention this community has been getting, the community's exposure is almost exponentially growing. This attention will cause the game to change. This change (I believe) will be tapping into these residual effects.

It's hard to go into detail without sounding like a total communist. Also, I'm still working out this theory, so you've kinda caught me with my pants down on this one. As soon as I have it refined, I'll let you know

Maybe y'all can help me on this one. What do you think? Is it total BS or is there potential here?

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To hear some guys describe it, you would think this modern pick up movement invented the art of male/female interaction from the male perspective.

This is of course a ridiculous assertion.

I think it is only broadening or introducing opportunities for those who may have simply been content to sit on the sidelines before, or who were forced to learn the game over decades instead of a few years.

Not to mention the obvious societal differences that have taken place for the past 20 years or so. Changes that in many cases has made meeting, attracting and connecting with single women more difficult and challenging for the average fellow.

Pick up isn't an end to itself. Nor is it some magic pill. It's simply another skill among many that must be mastered to be a successful, happy and thriving human being. It alone will not do it for you. It is simply another educational resource.

To elevate it to some sort of religion, lifestyle in itself or cult type following is a misplaced value in my opinion.

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True, i mean, the first thing that pops into my head is Style's quote. However, I think that the "educational resource" is what will be expanding exponentially.

To have all of this become your life rather than augment it defeats the purpose of my hypothesis.

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I'm referring to a guy having a strong frame. Owning his own space, in my opinion, is bringing the party to him and having it be comfortable. The guys I wing with on a regular basis have taught me a lot about frame control, and it's amazing watching these guys completely control their frame and bring women into it, therefore controlling the conversation and even HER reality at that moment.

Thumb rings rock. It's a conversation piece, which is always a plus.

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For every 1 man that believes this (PU) will help him, there are
probably 10 nay-sayers that don't believe it works. If you ask me
it is due to ignorance, pride, or both.

You will only be able to help those who actively get into this to
help themselves. A lot of you guys who have friends who just will
not get it no matter how much you tell them or show them it works,
know what I am talking about.

I don't believe it will change the world, but if it changes 1 man's world,
that is all that matters.

I'm not saying the game will not change, it will, but it will come full circle.

The end result is... being yourself (and being a real man).
Once you master this, it won't matter what new techniques
or openers or other pick-up artists emerge.




Feel free to sensor this out as i don't know if it is considered
advertising, but one of Pick-up 101's objectives is to reduce
the divorce rate in the U.S. Now, That is some heavy shit. :-)

For women, this does not start out as a conscious decision. It's about attraction. "Attraction is not a choice." David D.

If some dynamic changes in the friendship zone, the attraction switch has already been triggered. This is aftermath.

Then, the rationalization of moving a guy into "lover" zone begins.

It's a LONG trek from the friendship zone to the lover zone, but it happens all the time.

To make the move, these things have to happen

1.) attraction switches
2.) re-define the comfort zone
3.) escalate escalate escalate kino

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No doubt there are those who would no doubt like to turn the pick up arts or male/female interaction into some sort of 'American idol' type spectacle. And mainly for their own benefit.

When the pick up arts become an end to itself, rather than the means to an end that it is.

I think that's when it all becomes corrupted and distorted like so many other things in this society.

It's a big world out there. And meeting the opposite sex, or picking them up, although vital to the journey, is only the starting point, not the ending point.

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Sweating can bother a woman. Even if it doesn't, you are sending the message that you are "sweating" the conversation. One would have to have some convincing game to combat the subconscious message your body is conveying.

I personally think blushing or when ears get red is cute. However, you are sending me the signal that I can have an effect on you. A strong game would have to be used, convincing me that I actually don't have an effect on your state of mind, or at least playing around with that notion.

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I'd like to add one more thing to that before I stop walking all over Zip's thread.

If I wanted to be the greatest pick up artist on earth, and I could change myself into anybody currently on the planet.

It wouldn't be Mystery, It wouldn't be Style, It wouldn't be Gambler or any of these guys. All fine fellows I might add. Nope.

It would be Tom Brady.

David Beckham would be another option, once I dumped Posh Spice.

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BTW, that comment about BF#2 is sort of a running inside joke with me and Tripp, but it brings up my personal life which I probably should explain a bit, especially if this whole topic is about my perspective.

Women are naturally used to being judge, executioner, DA, etc. because they are usually the ones "in charge" of who gets into their beds. It's just how it's always been. Even if you are the most experienced PUA, the women still makes a decision. Both you and the girl are "making" decisions, but girls have more to lose in a sexual relationship. Therefore, women have taken on this role, whether their batting average is good or not.

My comments about the men I date are mostly hyperbolized and used for comedic effect... however, they are all true. The men I date are extraordinary people and selected after long trials. I give BF #2 a hard time because he's the pretty boy who is a bit of a self-confessed air head. Yet, I'm going to stand by this... I'm picky and hard on the men in my life because I can be. Simple.

I've been with BF number 1 and 2 for years now. I'm harsh on men because I'm a hard club to get in to. I'm not a dive bar where any average joe can make a pit stop. That's where my harsh vocabulary stems.

There are three areas of my love life:
1.) I do go out on other dates and work on guys all the time, but this is more for research and to keep my skills in tact. So yes, it's detached.
2.) I'm looking for trophy guys who will keep me entertained for a while. These are not usually sexual.
3.) My inner circle of "real" relationships. The few but the proud make it here.

Yes, I have many, many relationship goals. Depends on which area we're talking about. The "inner circle" just happens. I don't know if marriage is the answer for me yet...all I know is that I've been happy with BF's 1 and 2 for years. BF 3 is cute too

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Tricky. I guess the one thing that you can do is to study how you come across to women. You may think it's "friendly," but are you really giving these girls an unintentional signal that you are interested? This is probably not the case, because you seem to be a guy who is in control.

I deal with guys getting the wrong idea by turning into a raging bitch and making men cry. That's because it's naturally a part of who I am, and I get a sadistic kick out of it. You're a naturally friendly guy, so my solution will NOT work for you.

This is a tricky situation, because from the game we know ignoring these women or acting like you aren't affected by their behavior drives them. I'm going to ask my wings and some girlfriends about this one and will get back to you.

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