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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:58 am 
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You seem to be a leader of the forum Jerupa.
I don't expect to see you on this thread for very long because i'm about to flame you. But since i also believe you didn't quite get it, i'm going to make a crystal clear summary of my point somewhere tomorrow.
I am no leader here, just here to learn and study if you will now, But feel free to flame me I can take the heat. ;) Tho I didn't meant to dig you or anything. But I am glad you going to make things clear as I was going on what your pro cheating essay projected.

How old are you?
28

Wat is your experience in LTR?
Can't say I been in many tho not to say I dealt with other people's LTR's.

Would you consider yourself psychologically monogamous or physically monogamous?
Both.
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You see i have all the reasons to believe you haven't got the slightest bit of experience in life. And instead of debating me you should be glad you encountered me. I write this post for people that are willing to think out of the box and improve theirselfs and the lifes of their partners. Read what DJ_Z wrote. He talks about relativism. That is something like being able to detach yourself from groopthink and grow a mind of your own. But after reading your post i'm so disappointed that i might have to consider you a lost case.
So because I don't agree with your thinking I must not have the slightest experience of life or think out side the box? You don't know what sort of life I have lived nor what I have done. I am not going to post my life bio here, but least to say I do think outside the box. I just don't subscribe to your outside of the box thinking when it comes to cheating.

What is your solution?
Um be honest with what ever girl you date or get in a relationship with. And if you DO have a kid with your girlfriend and/or the girl you slept with do your part and help raise the kid.

Read better my friend, i don't cheat around. I have no relationship where i'm dishonest.
Wasn't trying to imply that, but from your "essay" you try and make it that it is okay to cheat on whom ever you are with.

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And this is were you get personal. You tell me i have zero interest in an open relationship because i get more of a thrill from cheating than anything else. Dude let me give you some advice. If you seem to know what i think stop reacting to me and start posting for me

You think this is me
- I get a thrill from lying and being dishones to my girlfriend
- I love violating the rules i've set up in my relationship
- I like to give a false identity of who i am to the person i love most

SINCE I GAVE YOU 0,0 NO REASON TO THINK ABOUT ME LIKE THIS I NOW HAVE ALL THE REASONS TO BELIEVE THIS IS YOU. So for all you childish unexperienced posters out here. Let me save you from dishonesty and pain by telling you this story.
You gave me this sort of impression from your "essay" on your pro cheating stance. You show zero interest in getting into an open relationship in it, yet very much promote one to cheat, even going as far as to post steps to hide it. Better yet you don't post any cons of cheating don't even acknowledge any of the cons of it other than society saying it is wrong. Read your uh essay again, I know you said you are going to make a full out one, but going on the one you posted do I have any reason to think different of you? Yes you did say you tried an open relationship but it failed but you showed way more interest in cheating than open relationship.

If you feel so strongly that guys should sleep around then shouldn't you be one that is promoting open relationships then and not cheating? It is FAR MORE HEALTHIER than a relationship of cheating. It is your choice if you want to cheat. But don't try and justify it as you will lose that battle. Just own up to your behavior and let others know that it is who you are. Hopefully you think more about cheating not so that you will stop as well I don't expect you to, but more how you go about things. Maybe instead of getting into relationships you sleep around or go friends with benefits or open relationships. All of which are healthier than cheating.

As far as your story goes, sounds like you got into a relationship that got toxic and it became a drug for you. I had and ex-friend who had a similar story as you actually and he had kids with her even. End result was far from pretty to say the least, I can tell you for him at least he ended up getting hooked on weed and pretty much drinks and smokes all the time now and he is now married to another girl. One of the reasons why the divorce rate is so high is people don't get into healthy relationships, this is one of the reasons why I been in so few LTR's as I care to much about being in a healthy relationship than an unhealthy or toxic one.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:03 pm 
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Seriously, we agree with eachother, you just got offended by one of the sentences i wrote and from there on didn't read well enough to get my point.

My last advice.
If you feel at some point in your life your not psychologically monogamous, stop living from day to day surpress that feeling. Start to accept your nature. Its going to harm you if you don't.

I personally believe no man is psychologically monogamous and we should all loosen up with our ridgit relationship conceptions. I'm not jealous myself and i am willing to give my partner as much freedome as i would give myself.

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If women were reading this forum who do you think they would find more attractive, those with the integrity not to cheat, or those with no integrity who are trying to justify something that we all know to be deceitful and wicked?

The people here who only care about getting their dicks wet wont get very far in life, I guarantee it, because they have no drive to become better men they are only concerned with selfishly satisfying their lower desires.

We are men, we have the option to be better than our nature and a big part of what defines us as people is how we deal with others. What kind of person do you want to be? If the answer is, someone who would betray those closest to him, then I feel nothing but pity for you.

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[I understand that we have now gone off topic from the original post but there does not seem to be an appropriate other place to post this- yet!]

Is this not just a discussion of semantics?
Surely one who does not condone monogamy can still disapprove of cheating.

Cheating by definition would not be sleeping with other people whilst in a relationship but doing it secretly and breaking trust because faithfulness was implied in the relationship.

Whether it is right or wrong, society's current view of relationships is that they are monogamous. When one enters a relationship it is therefore implied that one will be faithful - unless one has explicitly stated that they do not believe in monogamy (which is of course a perfectly ok belief to hold.)

Therefore, I believe cheating shows a lack of respect not only for the girl but also for yourself; if you believe in polygamy accept this as your belief and express it to the girl who you like and hope she understands and accepts.
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Fertilizer said: I don't cheat around. I have no relationship where i'm dishonest.
I think we can all accept that Fertilizer isn't cheating if he has always been honest with the girl from the start and not broken her trust.

I've been interested in writing a post on the ethics of the game too.
Just my 2 cents, interested in entering a civil debate on this so do please share our thoughts on my view.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:09 am 
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Wow, what a loser.

Cheating isn't what PU is about.
This. Respect your woman.

Pick one and stick with one.
Asking advice on how to cheat?
Please leave this forum and never come back.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:50 am 
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I don't personally approve of cheating. But I find it comical that the same dudes who respond to questions like "how do I talk to her?" with "man the fuck up you pussy" are suddenly getting all uptight over this post.

So I'm going to piss a lot of people off and respond to the topic:

- Don't fuck around in your social circle, or in venues that you frequent. Word travels.

- Scale back your social media presence.

- Bang girls in other area codes.

- If you've seen a girl more than one time before you bang her, assume you can't easily get rid of her after you bang her.

- Women who are also cheating have a vested interest in keeping you a secret.

- Know the difference between a more calculating woman who is cheating in a stable relationship, versus a more impulsive woman who is sabotaging a crumbling relationship. One will break into tears and tell everyone about you.

Cue everyone's moral outrage.


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Cue everyone's moral outrage.
Great points... but why the need to be so antagonistic?

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:49 pm 
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I'd ask that question to a lot of the other posters here.


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Yes i've read above comments these were really interesting.There are many students want cheating essay rather than writing theirself.because they are affaird of getting caught by teacher or professor.So every one including teachers and a normal person should be aware of cheaters.


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Cheating is wrong. Plain and simple. I've been cheated on after a 5 year LTR and it fucking sucks. No one deserves that feeling of pain. Just be honest and dump them. Its way better


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Be straight forward about who you are. If she accepts it, then you're good to go. If she leaves, then you are free to see the other one. Either way... problem solved!

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