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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:27 pm 
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If you're out looking for #'s or F- closes, how many sets do you tend to approach. I guess what I'm trying to ascertain is quantity vs quality of sets in a night.

Also, what factors influence this? Do you live in a large city where reputations don't spread so easily? Are you often in packed venues?


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I start approaching every girl i meet at a club/bar or wherever ( FAT, UGLY, One tit, smelly, hot, anything to move really).. Build up some confidence and get in state, and I look for the HB8 + and approach them! So basically I start with quantity and then move to quality ;)

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I start approaching every girl i meet at a club/bar or wherever ( FAT, UGLY, One tit, smelly, hot, anything to move really).. Build up some confidence and get in state, and I look for the HB8 + and approach them! So basically I start with quantity and then move to quality ;)
So I assume you live in a relatively large city?


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I approach some 10 to 15 sets per session. I do day game. But I don't number close. I live in a small city of +85 thousand people.

The general principle I use is propinquity fused with the 4 minute disqualification period of women, the 10 minute opportunity to bait liking cues through wide rapport, and then finally, going into emotional connections through deep rapport. These are all based on scientific research combined with PUA techniques.

On one location, a mall for instance, I spend some 1 to 2 minutes per girl per set and eject to the next set. I do this for newly opened sets. For sets that went past the 4 minute mark, I spend 3 minutes or more per girl. I go to this mall around once per week. So for a given month, many girls are already familiar with me (that's the magic of propinquity for day game) and new sets become curious due to the massive social proof I have.

Currently, girls number close me. I don't number close anymore. A few girls fucked close me with sleepover requests. I number close though with online sarging. :twisted:

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Hey man, sort of depends what your goals are and what you consider an efficent means to achieving those goals,

you have to figure out what you want, and take action towards getting it

I live in a large city, and the amount of people out at a bar or club depends on the venue, biggest club in my city will probably have about 500+ people on friday-saturday night, while the pub near my house probably will only have about 15-20 on a friday-saturday

when I go out at night to a nightclub I usually don't even think about this shit, sometimes I'll actually just be going out to drink with my friends and not really thinking about getting girls at all, but just go socialize for fun because you might as well just go to a bar if you are not going to meet people or dance (cheaper + better atomsphere to just relax and talk)

but if getting a girl is the goal then there are some things that are somewhat important to keep track of, when socializing with girls, try to keep mental note of who is friendly, and who invests back into attempting to have a conversation with you, as well as who you find interesting to talk to, don't stay too long or anything, just meet alot of people and have fun, then once you have broken some ice with alot of people, you can return to sets you liked and start hitting on the girls, or return to talking about something that interested you with the guys in set, usually if the night is good and you are having fun you can get some phone numbers and some make outs, and maybe even a few drunk guys will just randomly buy you drinks

can't really tell you how to act or anything, be cool and fun to be around is pretty vague and it is just about as useful to say this as.. JUST BE YOURSELF

but that is pretty much what it breaks down to, be confident and have fun, don't turn this into a serious live or die situation, just hit on the girls you like, if you want to go home with one, then open as many sets as it takes and handle the obsticles (logistics etc.) 1st, you have to know relatively quickly if the girl is available or not quickly if you are after a one night stand so you can move onto other girls if they are not, and obviously you are going to want to ask them home, if you have not realized that allready (I know that sounds obvious, but some guys think they are going to neg a girl into asking them... doesn't work like that)

anyways, lead and test compliance, have fun

talk about few topics that interests you (if it is interesting to you, you can make it interesting to others), if others don't find it interesting, then obviously you wouldn't have much in common/much chemistry with that person, and might as well just get to the point and tell them what you are after, or move onto a different girl that you have more to connect on

not really any magical sequences or anything, just time and doing it a whole bunch and you can usually tell through body language and interactions the girls that like you and the ones that don't (obvious things like approach invites, big ioi's, girls approaching you, and girls re-approaching you after you break the ice), and if you know she likes you after that it is just about cracking her open socially and connecting as well as figuring out where her comfort level is (while lowering asd) as well as figuring out her availability

GOOD LUCK


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Hey man, sort of depends what your goals are and what you consider an efficent means to achieving those goals,

you have to figure out what you want, and take action towards getting it

I live in a large city, and the amount of people out at a bar or club depends on the venue, biggest club in my city will probably have about 500+ people on friday-saturday night, while the pub near my house probably will only have about 15-20 on a friday-saturday

when I go out at night to a nightclub I usually don't even think about this shit, sometimes I'll actually just be going out to drink with my friends and not really thinking about getting girls at all, but just go socialize for fun because you might as well just go to a bar if you are not going to meet people or dance (cheaper + better atomsphere to just relax and talk)

but if getting a girl is the goal then there are some things that are somewhat important to keep track of, when socializing with girls, try to keep mental note of who is friendly, and who invests back into attempting to have a conversation with you, as well as who you find interesting to talk to, don't stay too long or anything, just meet alot of people and have fun, then once you have broken some ice with alot of people, you can return to sets you liked and start hitting on the girls, or return to talking about something that interested you with the guys in set, usually if the night is good and you are having fun you can get some phone numbers and some make outs, and maybe even a few drunk guys will just randomly buy you drinks

can't really tell you how to act or anything, be cool and fun to be around is pretty vague and it is just about as useful to say this as.. JUST BE YOURSELF

but that is pretty much what it breaks down to, be confident and have fun, don't turn this into a serious live or die situation, just hit on the girls you like, if you want to go home with one, then open as many sets as it takes and handle the obsticles (logistics etc.) 1st, you have to know relatively quickly if the girl is available or not quickly if you are after a one night stand so you can move onto other girls if they are not, and obviously you are going to want to ask them home, if you have not realized that allready (I know that sounds obvious, but some guys think they are going to neg a girl into asking them... doesn't work like that)

anyways, lead and test compliance, have fun

talk about few topics that interests you (if it is interesting to you, you can make it interesting to others), if others don't find it interesting, then obviously you wouldn't have much in common/much chemistry with that person, and might as well just get to the point and tell them what you are after, or move onto a different girl that you have more to connect on

not really any magical sequences or anything, just time and doing it a whole bunch and you can usually tell through body language and interactions the girls that like you and the ones that don't (obvious things like approach invites, big ioi's, girls approaching you, and girls re-approaching you after you break the ice), and if you know she likes you after that it is just about cracking her open socially and connecting as well as figuring out where her comfort level is (while lowering asd) as well as figuring out her availability

GOOD LUCK
Not sure why you are wishing me good luck, but I'll put you down as a large city, goes out at night and "doesn't keep track". :D

There's plenty in that post though so thanks for writing it regardless!


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I approach some 10 to 15 sets per session. I do day game. But I don't number close. I live in a small city of +85 thousand people.

The general principle I use is propinquity fused with the 4 minute disqualification period of women, the 10 minute opportunity to bait liking cues through wide rapport, and then finally, going into emotional connections through deep rapport. These are all based on scientific research combined with PUA techniques.

On one location, a mall for instance, I spend some 1 to 2 minutes per girl per set and eject to the next set. I do this for newly opened sets. For sets that went past the 4 minute mark, I spend 3 minutes or more per girl. I go to this mall around once per week. So for a given month, many girls are already familiar with me (that's the magic of propinquity for day game) and new sets become curious due to the massive social proof I have.

Currently, girls number close me. I don't number close anymore. A few girls fucked close me with sleepover requests. I number close though with online sarging. :twisted:
Interesting, so you do Day game and you're trying to apply some sort of "entourage" game to that, by building social proof with the people in the "Mall/location/whatever".

To me, that sounds like a lot of hassle. Any particular reason you like this route?


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If you're out looking for #'s or F- closes, how many sets do you tend to approach. I guess what I'm trying to ascertain is quantity vs quality of sets in a night.
If I'm out sarging, I'll approach ever attractive girl within reason. I say within reason if she is obviously with her husband/fiance, I might not approach but even that's not always true. I kiss closed a married HB8 last night while dancing with her sandwiched between me and her husband. It's all in how confident I feel. But on average I'd say I open at least 25 girls and sometimes twice that if I'm at a large venue.

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Also, what factors influence this? Do you live in a large city where reputations don't spread so easily? Are you often in packed venues?
I live in a small city (population 30k) so yes reputation does spread. Which I think is starting to effect my game negativly. The clubs I go to are extremely crowded for there small size. Normal weekend night will net about 300-400 people shoulder to shoulder. Very crowded.


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Any particular reason you like this route?
Saves me a lot of time and effort plus it helps me a lot in my career expertise. :twisted:

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If you're out looking for #'s or F- closes, how many sets do you tend to approach. I guess what I'm trying to ascertain is quantity vs quality of sets in a night.
If I'm out sarging, I'll approach ever attractive girl within reason. I say within reason if she is obviously with her husband/fiance, I might not approach but even that's not always true. I kiss closed a married HB8 last night while dancing with her sandwiched between me and her husband. It's all in how confident I feel. But on average I'd say I open at least 25 girls and sometimes twice that if I'm at a large venue.

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Also, what factors influence this? Do you live in a large city where reputations don't spread so easily? Are you often in packed venues?
I live in a small city (population 30k) so yes reputation does spread. Which I think is starting to effect my game negativly. The clubs I go to are extremely crowded for there small size. Normal weekend night will net about 300-400 people shoulder to shoulder. Very crowded.
Interesting. In what way has it affected you? And do you have any plan to do with this?

(I'm interested in your case in particular, because the topic of sarging heavily in a small town used to be a very frequently occuring topic that hasn't appeared in a while so I thought I'd see if I could poll the thoughts of some "small town sargers" and how they deal with it)


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