My subject line pretty much sums it all up. In my experience, it's always so hard to find the right moment, or even situate myself to get a kiss. So I guess I'm asking, what do I need to do to insure a kiss, and when do I kiss the hb?

The secret to kissing is strong eye contact, speak slower, pauses, light kino. Just touch her lightly here and there. Keep strong eye contact. If you do it right she will look down and to sides and keep talking and will act a little bit nervous. If this happens it's a sign of female submission in which you have to take over. Continue the eye contact and imagine kissing her disregard what she's saying. Just ignore whatever she says and look at her eyes and lips and move closer and closer. When you feel lots of tension most probably she does also. At that moment move yourself closer and closer and then grab her head gently and just kiss her. When you do that just don't think and make a move. If you keep thinking you'll get nervous and everything will fail. Good luck!


- Amazing Art -

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Good advice from AmazingArt. The key thing I want to mention though is the "slow-down" effect. You want to make it seem like time is slowing down (in a good way) and if in a public setting, make it feel like you are the only 2 people in the place. You lock eyes and don't break for any reason, if she looks away you just keep looking so when she inevitably looks back, she see's your eyes are still fixated on hers. Now in this situation if the girl is not open to k-close I find she will usually comment on your stare "What are you looking at?", "Have I got something on my face?" and things of that ilk will normally be an indicator she isn't down to k-close just yet and you need to work some more kino etc in there. However if she looks away, looks back and just kinda stares back at you, or makes some rudimentary comment about nothing particularly importnat, there's is a strong chance that she is now thinking along the same lines as you. What "Amazing" said about looking away/looking around the room is actually a comfort display. Her sub-conscious is saying "I don't find you a threat, I'm comfortable with you so I'm content to take my eyes off you" (credit that to the book 'What Everybody Is Saying' by Joe Navarro)

Ultimately you just have to go for it and risk the so-called 'embarrassment' of a rejection. Personally though the majority of my k-closes in the last year or so have happened from massive rapid escalation and the girls actually k-closing me; but this is from doing exactly as described in this thread, only a little more 'intensely'.

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Honestly, it's something you feel. If you think you should kiss her, you think it's right then do it.

You're a person, you have feelings. Forget everything else and follow the feeling you get.