Update Fable gave me on time wasters:

***How to deal with Time Wasters (i.e. ones that don't sleep with me)

Inspired by Blackknight and my own experiences

-Time waster = person of low interest, conservative persons, persons playing the prize game, power games

I'm pretty hard-ball with time-wasters and drop them the second I see them. Why would I spend time with her with other women around who are interested? I think a TRUE time-waster is someone who is playing the game, defined as someone who has absolutely no attraction for me but would like to use me for attention. But that is probably not the case, and even if it is I would deal with it the same way. But after talking to Blackknight today, I was forced to reconsider this. Sometimes a girl has low interest or conservative values.. going out to find other chicks is all fine and well but I would have to be better at game, and if a really good girl came along I'd still like to know how to crack her.

I think one way to deal with time wasters is to persist the sexual frame. I had a time-waster, a very conservative virgin awhile ago who came out with me on the date for attention. I wanted to drop her and drop the date, but I was too invested into it so I had to find a way to crack her defenses. It all came down to being calm, understanding, while (this is crucial) remaining persistently sexual. Keep pushing the envelope. Every moment she spends with me, I am pushing the sexual side of the interaction. Not too much, not all at once, but a little more each time. That particular virgin gave me a TON of shit about the escalation but it ended up with a cock in her mouth. And she did NOT like it, according to her bodily responses. Which is why she is CHASING me right now. Think about that for a few seconds. Or a few hours. Escalation works.

If she DEMANDS a non-sexual frame, e.g. "I ONLY want to be friends with you." I'd say (credit Yarbles) "I DON'T want to be friends with you." And she can leave if she does not agree to that.

Here's another very important point. If she is not having sex with me, I will still invite her out with the logistics and the (implied) purpose of having sex however.. I will not give her any attention beyond that. She will continue to get a hint of my value but never my full value, which I will ONLY grant when she complies to sex.

When she hasn't fucked me yet, every moment she spends with me will be sexually charged and will aim towards sex. If she challenges that frame directly, I challenge it back and she can stay or blow herself out.

That is how I must deal with time wasters. The idea is to avoid wasting say 3 hours on a date with a time-waster (happens ALL the time). Note: I find time-wasters are prone to setting exact plans, like dinner and then that lounge at 8. That way when a guy escalates they can say "well weren't we supposed to go to dinner and that lounge".

So next time I'm on a date, I escalate quickly. Resistance is expected and okay. But I persist in that frame, always a little more than she is comfortable until she is comfortable - and then moving on. If she resists, I try again a few minutes later. If she tries to frame it (as many time-wasters will) that on this date there will be no escalation, then I end the date early. Dinner? Yea right. Lounge? Nope. They'll make me feel guilty by saying "but we're SUPPOSED to do dinner." To which I will respond: "yes, but I don't want to be friends. I want to be more. If it is not moving forward I would rather you and I go home and take some time to think about it." There is a matter of calibration when escalating of course.. which I won't talk about, but basically I'm not going to drop my potential time-wasters - I'm gonna see if I can crack them. And if they directly challenge my progress, out the door the go!

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The past month or so has been hard I'm not going to lie that's part of the reason why I haven't been so active on the forum for the last couple of weeks. One thing I always make sure to do is game no matter how I feel so that's been consistent at least night game wise...I haven't really had the confidence to do day game of late but that changed last week Wednesday. A month ago I started day game and was even doing approaches by myself off the subway or on the street because I had the confidence to do so, that just disappeared! lol I thought losing all my fwbs within a couple of weeks was a storm but really it was just the calm before the storm. Losing the girls, then losing my confidence, then not getting results lead to a little depression which obviously makes me complacent in other aspects of my life school, work etc... All that shit snowballed but it was still the calm, the hurricane happened last week, I survived it (no thanks to red cross lol) due to support from people like theShowman, BK, Footy, theSlacker, Johnny Soporno and so on. Don't you just love the feeling when you've been dealing with a million different problems at the same time and one day you wake up and realize oh shit almost all those issues are sorted out now, it's sunny now, it may be a malnourished Canadian winter sun but fuck it it's getting there

Lessons Learned from this Past Month

Prior to pick up I would have probably went into a terminal meltdown dealing with the stuff from the past couple of weeks. Instead, I tried to ignore how these problems were making me feel emotions such as fear, regret, pain, loneliness and frustration and figure out how to solve them... I took that from Johnny Soporno, he said something along the lines of why waste time worrying or being depressed about a situation, it only makes you feel like there's nothing you can do about it focus on how to solve the issue and you'll realize there's nothing to worry about... I guess the overall theme is that I learnt that I'm becoming a man meaning I'm becoming stronger beginning to care less about what people think of me and knowing how much of a fucking beast I am in bed...haha went off topic there... :- I mean how much of a fucking awesome person I am and how much of more awesome I will become...

Thanks for the emotional support gents!

Red Ranger Out! lol

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Wed 23/11/11


Day Game
Started off with some day game with the boys, not that many approaches due to a lack of sets (or at least what I perceived to be) and being out of the groove of day game for a while. But I can honestly say that there was at least 3 really beautiful girls I regret not approaching. My excuses were pretty lame actually it was stuff like I'm not ready for her and oh she was walking across the street...etc All in all I did 1 indirect approach, 2 funny direct (miming my love for her) lol and 1 normal direct (whatever that means lol), no # closes though.

Night Game
After day game with Fable, TheShowman and BK it was off to Croc Rock for night game. I got into the club, immediately jumped on stage with TheShowman and started dancing, Fable joins us. My confidence was still low but at this point stuff like that is almost autopilot for me plus a little attention never hurt anybody... Prime and a bald eagle...I mean Footy showed up and joined us on stage for a bit. Then a HB (Hbtease) jumps on stage points at me and opens me with "You're awesome!" I responded "I know" cockily. She squeezes my arm and says "I love your sweater" I responded with "I know" again but this time I smiled and grabbed her waist. We were going back & forth about how boring people can be when they're supposed to be out partying and she was essentially telling me how different I am or at least I subtly lead her to tell me how different I am o:-) . I was escalating but I mainly wanted to figure out her logistics first so I asked her who she came with and etc but I noticed she was giving me really vague answers. She kept on grabbing me and speaking into my ear and I could feel her lips constantly brush up against my cheek and ear. She was turning me on and I wanted to just grab her and start making out with her, caveman style but I decided to hold off until I knew her logistics plus I noticed some guy seated at a table staring at us. At some point she said she announced she going to get a shot (I think she was hinting at me either buy it or come with), I slapped/squeezed her ass, she turns and says, "You're awesome!" and I was thinking "Okay...that's fucking hilarious!"

HBtease gets her shot and goes over to the table with the guy who was staring at us earlier and based on their body language I could tell they knew each other. I went to open up some other sets and when I saw her again she was dancing with another black guy, how dare she try and replace me! hahaha I just reopened her and grabbed her away from the dude, then asked her how she knew everyone at the table and she tells me the guy staring at us is her boyfriend but she's allowed to do what she wants and that I'm like so much fun and like totally like cute! Blah! :-@ Translation: "I'm going allow you turn me on and fulfill the void I feel with my boring boyfriend but at the end of the night I'm going to take this fantasy and fuck his brains out, sorry!" I walked away... joined theShowman in a 2set upstairs I managed to do my winging duty and distracted his obstacle but as you know my confidence was MIA so my C&F wasn't congruent therefore I didn't build enough attraction with her. After maybe 10mins she pulled ShowM's target away for a smoke. When they came back we were opening other sets outside so by the time we rejoined them, we found two AFC's had bought them drinks. AMOG time! Well wrong! At least for me lol my girl wasn't receptive when I tried to take over the set but ShowM pulled a successful AMOG I just stuck around to make sure the guy didn't try and get back at ShowM, considering he had already invested 2 drinks in her before we came along.

Everyone left the table & I left ShowM in isolation with his girl. As I danced I got opened by an HBtimid she told me I'm a good dancer and I smiled and said "So I've been told.." I showed her a simple dance move and told her to try it, she was so timid she just smiled and shook her head shyly, aaaaw how cute... I asked her again, to no avail... Then she walks behind me and gets grabbed by Fred Flinstone who just essentially man handles her, and guess what HBtimid morphed into HbSpoiltHeiressPartyAnimal, sexy dancing, hair flying all over the place, screaming "WOOOOO!" and even a vagina flash (kidding). A little later HBtease saw me and tried to get me to jump on stage with her I shook my head and signalled for her to come down to me, we went back and forth but I held a firm frame and she jumped down to dance with me. I danced with her for about 1 min before I thought to myself screw this, it's not going to go anywhere with her bf right there and so I literally turned away from her and started dancing with one of my wings, she was so confused she just stood there staring at me for like 10 - 20 secs before she ran off to her boyfriend.

On the way home ShowM and I stopped at a McDonalds to pick up coffee and women He opened a two set who had just finished having a very friendly light conversation with a guy, when we entered the restaurant. ShowM went in with a really seductive confident frame and when I joined the set I found one of the girls (HBShitTester) was giving us some heavy exams. He dealt with it well and I tried my best to maintain my frame but my confidence was low and she was so adept at getting me jump through her hoops I didn't even notice I was in her frame. For example I jokingly said,

Me: I'm a stripper.
HBShitTester: Oh really? (sarcastically) What's the name of the strip club? (holds up a hoop)
Me: Club Paradise... (that's me jumping through her hoop)
HBShitTester: Isn't that a female club? (another hoop)
Me: There's a men's section you have to go through a back door. (damn, I just set up a homerun for her)
HBShitTester: Oh now, I know what kind of stripper you are, the kind that sucks dick for a living! (now she's in control and was making me look like a little biatch!)

I had a retort to that but responding was actually the wrong thing to do, I shouldn't have let it get that far in the first place.

Lessons Learned

I'll start where I left off with regards to the whole jumping through hoops and entering a girl's frame... It was interesting to notice that they were so friendly to a lesser attractive/interesting male right before us because he came in with a friendly/non-seductive frame. Because we came in more confident and seductive they tested the shit out of us...Personally, I didn't even know that what I was doing was wrong and probably would have never realized (if ShowM hadn't pointed it out), I was just making it worse by responding to her jabs, allowing her to pull me more and more into her frame.

TheShowman summarized it best when he told me:
If Brad Pitt was talking to those girls and he says "I'm an actor", and HBShitTester sarcastically asks "Oh really? Name some movies you've been in?" What do you think his response would be, "I've been in Inglorious Bastards, Fightclub, Ocean's Eleven...?" Hell no! He would just coyly smile and move onto something else...He wouldn't go "You don't believe me!!? Well I'll show you let's check Youtube right now, you'll see!" He knows he's Brad Pitt so what if you don't believe he's an actor, that's your problem...
He also told me that of late he noticed, I'm not entering sets with the mentality that I am an attractive male and that these girls are sexually attracted to me which, was 100% true. Oh you know me so well Showman...lol Me not having that mentality stems from the lack of confidence I've been suffering with. Luckily I've got my swagger back! but that's for the next post...

HBtease is an interesting case study because she was definitely sexually attracted to me but it was stilted by her boyfriend being nearby. Me showing her what value I have to give (i.e. good dancer, fun/interesting conversation, confident/alpha attitude) and then taking it away (push/pull) once she told me she had a boyfriend, amplified her attraction for me...I'm guessing when she stood there staring at me for 20secs, she was thinking, "What the hell? Who is this guy? He doesn't succumb to my sexual advances he got me to jump down to dance with him and then just leaves me like that...I mean I know I have a boyfriend but normally guys follow me anyway. Fuck I need validation from someone, oh wait I know...my boyfriend always kisses my ass, I'll go to him!" I feel like there was 3 other main ways I could have handled her. Firstly, would have to been to drag her to a dark corner of the club (Captain Caveman) and make out with her which would have been arousing & stroked my ego, in the moment but would only ultimately end up feeling like an epic tease when I'm at home alone. :-b Secondly, I could've have easily no. closed but I actually didn't want to plus I doubt she would have replied to my texts and finally, if my game was better then I could've possibly managed to take her home right in under her bf's nose.

I was very disappointed that it didn't occur to me to channel my inner caveman with Hbtimid I mean she turned into a party animal and ended up making out with Fred Flinstone. Tell me if I'm wrong but I think the most timid girls need the most aggressive/dominant guys to bring them out of their shells, this could also be why FOB asian girls respond so much to dominance...

Would love to hear your thoughts on my thoughts gents.

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For sure man, my voice projection was appalling she asked me to repeat a bunch of my sentences and my jokes weren't as effective because of it. My body language was alright but my energy was Neo dodging bullets in the Matrix low!
Why thank you kind sir I've spoken to you about this months ago and I was recently chatting with Fable about it. Humility or "quiet confidence" as I would like to call it. I've had problems with my ego in the past, I'm one of those guys who becomes very egotistical with success and gets extremely humbled with failure. That being said I asked you guys how to find a balance and you said something a long the lines of you it's good to have confidence in yourself and your abilities but always keep yourself in student mode and be able to recognize your shortcomings. Fable recently said you can think of yourself as a god but as long you have the courage to admit your faults you won't be arrogant. The consistent theme here is that it's ok to be confident but remember to not close yourself off to learning. So in the same vain that I will post about my successes on this forum I will post about my failures...

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Fri Night - 25/11/11

Guess Who I Ran Into

Was invited to a private party by Fable at Easy and The Fifth, time for some women from the Asian persuasion. :-p Ironically, a few hours before I left for the club I was running some errands with theSlacker and we randomly ran into one of my ex-Fwbs, (see previous journal entries) Akira, at the bus stop. We start chatting with her and once we got onto the bus theSlacker positioned himself in a way that allowed me to converse with her one-on-one almost like a mini-isolation but standing on a bus. I purposely chatted with her in a mysterious, non-commital, yet friendly tone, lots of eye contact and I used humour as a spike, not as the backbone of the conversation (Credit to Fable). To elaborate on the mysterious, non-commital but friendly tone I was basically not asking her any questions about herself. Why? because I wanted to convey that I don't miss her I've got other women in my life. I was answering her questions (in a friendly tone) but also giving her very vague and short answers (mystery/non-commitment). It was also congruent with the way I've treating her, we share the internet service so her and Kiki have to pay me or theSlacker once a month but I always have to remind her through a text or Fb. When I was sleeping with her I was really friendly in my messages, now it's just kind of like, "Can you bring the $40 up today." No hi, whats up or cute nicknames, just cold business...

A couple things she said to me during the conversation stuck out to me. There was a guy that moved into her & Kiki's apt a little bit after we stopped having sex. I could tell they were seeing each other based on their body language when I met him with her for the first time (she was way too uncomfortable) and the response he gave me when I asked how they knew each other. I only met him once or twice so I genuinely didn't remember his name or anything, so naturally I asked her about him. She totally ignored my main question and says "Who? Oh that guy? he moved out...went to Mexico." and completely brushed him off like he never existed. lol Next was when I said, "How's Kiki, what's she up to? I haven't seen her in like over a month." she ignores my question again and replies with, "What about you and me? we haven't seen each other weeks either." I didn't really know how to respond so I just kept eye contact and kept my mouth shut! haha It was best because she then tried to save herself with, "It's probably because I've been so busy with my school and stuff." Pssshh she wants me to climb Mt. Everest again...

Night Game

Fresh off of that ego boost theSlacker and I were off to meet Fable & BK at Easy and the Fifth. BK was already inside opening sets, we got acquainted with a few of Fable's friends and then hit the dance floor. With our high-energy and fun dance moves we had everyone that could see us staring and within a couples of songs, women came and started dancing right next to our group while pretending not to be glancing in our direction us every 10seconds and 1 girl came and danced in our circle (BK grabbed her). I hooked quite a fews sets and pushed them as far they could possibly be pushed, i.e. I got rejected for a bounce of locale, rejected for grinds, rejected for a # close. So I could sense my confidence ooozing back into my body and I was happy that I didn't have my usual premature ejectulation (Remember it's eJECTUlation not ejaculation. lol ) I'll write about my main set because I needed to sleeeeeep like 2 hours ago.

2set HbPetite & HbZombie (neither of them were even Asian):

HbZombie wasn't a zombie in every sense of the word, she was friendly but she just seemed kind of lifeless, maybe she was just tired or in need of some brain food (pun intended, sorry I had to lol). Anyway, I opened this set on the dance floor by fist pumping in between the two of them until they copied me. When they did (HbZombie took some encouragement) I high fived them, grabbed both of their hands and spun them around then danced with them for a bit before I went to the bathroom. When I came back they were nowhere in site so I re-join the boys, BK and I open a couple sets, re-join the group again and start up the high energy dancing again. Once again it seems like girls gravitated to our group, I noticed HbPetite & HbZombie start dancing next to our group and just magically position themselves where I could see them, aaaaw how cute. I didn't really feel like dancing with them to the song that was playing so I took my time, the song changed but they had moved, not far just behind me.

I went in and as soon as I get there HbPetite screams, "Oh NOW, you come over to dance huh" and pretends to push me away (someone's been reading PU). I coyly smile at her and say to Zombie, "You're friend likes me huh..." she smiles and shrugs, implying maybe. I attempt to grab and pull HbPetite to me by her hand she tests me again by saying "No" while smiling at me. I coyly smiled and said, "It's cute but stop playing games, I know you like me." She responds with, "You're the one playing games!" I laughed and said, "I think you're just afraid that I'll embarrass you with my awesome dance moves." and I stepped away and started dancing she turned towards me and we commenced a mini dance battle. It was hilarious, she couldn't dance but hey I'll give her an A for effort. lol I couldn't focus on HbPetite without a wingman to occupy the Zombie so I decided to get Petite to break her frame, by pitting the two against each other. I would say things like "Your girl says she likes me but I don't believe her" to Zombie and she would reply "No, she does like you believe me..." Then turn to HbPetite and say "Your girl just blew your cover, it's pointless pretending you don't want this!" and then she would look at HbZombie as if to say "What! how you could you tell him so soon??? You're supposed to be my wing-woman!" I've experimented with stuff like this before and it seems to work almost every time, especially if you want to be C&F and are running a 2set by yourself.

A little later the boys mention they're going home, now here is where I messed up...I went to up HbPetite (with a #close in mind.)
Me: My friends are leaving so I have to go...(She cuts me off)
HbPetite: Then you lose...
Me: (Was completely taken aback by that statement) What do I lose?
HbPetite: I don't know...you just lose...
Me: (I turn to HbZombie) She says that if I leave right now, I lose? (Metaphorical scratch of the head)
HbZombie: (Having learnt her lesson from before just simply shrugs her shoulders)
Me: (I turned back to look at HbPetite and thought to myself should I stay or should I go?)
HbPetite: (It's like she read my mind) Well if your friends are leaving then...
Me: Listen, you seem like a fun girl to hang out with, great dancer, almost as good as me! (smile) give me your phone no. (I hand her my cell) and we'll hang out soon. (#close. but yes, I prematurely ejectulated )

Lessons Learned

I learnt the importance of showing women that I like them but I don't need them. Sounds simple enough right? It's a simple concept but it's actually quite hard to apply especially when you're fresh to gaming. With Akira I provided her with a lot of my value (quality time with a fun Alpha, sexual pleasure, security/comfort, etc) and she provided me with sexual pleasure/female company in return, as soon as that ended I took away my value without looking back, I could tell that she misses the value I provided her with. I'm not really sure how to re-iniate contact with her while still maintaining my high value, any ideas?

I don't know if you guys also think this way but my view on stuff like bitch shields, proximity, body language was that they're all done subconsciously. Now, I'm beginning to think a lot of them are done very very consciously because HbPetite purposefully came and danced close by me and where I could see her, hoping that I would re-open her...When I didn't she got frustrated and moved behind me, she conveyed her frustration further with the whole "Oh NOW, you come over to dance huh" comment. It seems so silly to me that if she wanted to dance with me she didn't just come up to me, I mean I had already opened them so the chances of her getting rejected were like 0%. I guess it all comes back to men having to take responsibility for sex, unless of course you're George Clooney...

That night just re-enforced my belief in high-energy dancing for dance floor game. Even before PU I always equated night clubs to the mating rituals in the animal kingdom. For example, a lot male animals have to be the Alpha of the group to have their pick of the females. I think that's the equivalent of being the Alpha male of your social circle, most likely most of the guys would want to be you and most of the girls would want to be with you. What happens with the animals that don't live in groups or mate with females outside of their groups? They don't have social circle to be the Alpha of (that's me!). They have to show their value to females somehow i.e. pea-cocking, fighting or even dancing. I look at clubs as the latter because you're there to mate with females that are outside of your social circle. So how do you stand out, you dress impeccably, you dance in a way that grabs attention, you have fun, be extremely social, be dominant, it's all part of the mating ritual. Don't fight though!

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Sat Night - 26/11/11

Sat was an adventure, I had some drinks and went out with TheShowman, this was not a pick up night but I've said that to myself in past and it always ends up being one! We get to some random restaurant with a club inside it, right next to Ultra (the more I think about it the more I think it was Ultra.)
Was opening a lot sets and having a blast on the dance floor. Tried to pull a 35year old HB but she said I'm too young and she's looking to get married. lol As TheShowman chatted up a very sexy blondie, I opened her très sexy french gf just as they were leaving, had a really flirty/fun conversation, light kino (holding her waist) and #closed. When they left I hit the dance floor again and opened a 3set, I was super high-energy, humorous and dominant with these girls. They had just come into the club and it was 1:30am so I figured that they were looking for a little more than just dancing. Which turned out to be true, when I asked one of them where they were partying that night, she basically said they were at xxx club and it was full of boring people so they came to find me. Ok, they didn't say they came to find me but you know what I mean. I danced and chatted with all the girls but focused on my target more, 30mins later the bar was closing. As we walked out the girls were talking about being disappointed that the night was over when they were having so much fun, this was my in:

Me: I wasn't going to do this but you girls seem cool, I'm inviting you to my after party.
3set: Ok, sounds fun! Where is it? Because we're trying to decide where to go.
Me: Yonge & Eglinton...
3set: Ooooh, that's too far from here, we're gonna go to the other one in downtown.

I decided against # closing here...Damn Yonge & Eglinton, I can't wait to move downtown in Jan, these girls were so DTF. TheShowman and I decided to head to the McDonald's on Queen and Spadina, for coffee and women lol. On our way there we opened a 2set. His girl was HbBubbles (self explanatory) and mine was quite friendly as well (HbGameGeek), we were teasing them a lot. HbGameGeek was cute but not my type but they were two genuinely nice girls so it was fun interaction. I kinoed HbGameGeek by playfully sitting on her lap and putting my arm around her waist as we sat and talked for probably 15 - 20mins, built a lot of attraction and # closed before we attempted to pull them back to my place. They thought about it for a second and said they had to work really early so they can't but we have to hang out soon. I'm sorry but I don't think that's going to happen!

McDonald's 6set & HbDomino's
Oh well onto McDonald's, I see a 6set (5girls and 1 guy) seated in the corner, laughing and throwing fries all of the place, 3 of them were really hot so I knew I had to go in but my AA kicked in from nowhere. I stood in line stuck in my own head for a few mins and then I saw TheShowman open a set so I had my favourite thought "fuck it," and went in and sat right next to one of the girls and to my surprise she opened me! haha All my AA went out the window and I engaged the whole set, chatted with some random guy (Timmy) to my left and brought him into the set. It was just light fun conversation, a little teasing but the 3 hotties had to go home before I could game one. I started to talk to Timmy (really cool guy btw) and it turned out that he came from out of town to the Prince concert, it went on longer than he expected so he missed his bus and ended up losing his wallet on a streetcar! He told me he was just going to hang out in McDonald's until his friends/family woke up and came to get him, I felt bad for Little Orphan Timmy (temporarily homeless in a city where you know 0 people and we all know how cold this city can be) so I said he could hang out at my place until his buddies woke up. ShowM, Timmy and I bounce from McDonald's and are feeling adventurous so we head towards For Your Eyes Only to save some strippers at the end of a long shift, those looney's get heavy you know. On our way there I saw the most amazing girl (HbDomino's) of the night standing at a streetcar stop, she was wearing a short sexy pink cocktail dress and had black furry slippers on :-p. She was definitely clubbing that night but where were her heels? I figured she would appreciate a different approach than she had been getting in the club so I went in super direct and confident:

Me: (Tapped her arm) You are gorgeous! and honestly, your dress is very sexy on you. What's your name?
HbDomino's: Oh, thanks! My name is xxxxxx...
Couple of minutes of fluff talk, then I tried to #close
HbDomino's: I have a boyfriend.
Me: That's great, I'm not looking for a girlfriend or a wife right now but I think we could have fun together.
HbDomino's: I'm sorry, you're sweet but I can't...
Me: That's cool, it was nice meeting you.

I think she appreciated me going in super direct but I could have built up way more comfort before trying to #close. We get to the strip club but it was closed, that wasn't going to stop us though, we were determined to hit up every McDonald's on the way home. As we walked past another streetcar stop guess who I saw? HbDomino's!

Me: You're still here and at a different stop? (smiling)
HbDomino's: I know the stupid streetcar won't show up!
Me: Are you lost? I think you're just lost and just too proud to admit it.
HbDomino's: (Giggles) I'm not lost, it's the streetcar!
Me: Where are you heading?
HbDomino's: Finch and Bathurst.
Me: Well, you can either head west from here and take the Bathurst streetcar up to Finch...Alone and bored mind you, which will take ages...or...you can walk with 3 interesting young men have a fun adventure and take the Blue-Night bus on Yonge St. to Finch.
HbDomino's: (She smiles and sits there weighing up her options)
At this point Timmy joins the conversation (Timmy, you're a cool dude but if you fuck this up, you will be homeless for the next few hours haha) He said something to the effect of, "Yeah, you can be sooooo bored and scared on the streetcar or happy and safe on the bus with us, what kind of person would want to be bored anyway?"
HbDomino's: Ok, I'll come with you guys. (Timmaaayyy!! *South Park Voice*)

As we walked I knew the reason why she tagged along was not because she was into me it was because she was bored and I had been persistent. I decided to change my strategy as I had already shown so much interest before and was probably simply a "nice guy" with confidence in her eyes. I turned on my C&F and teased her a lot, about wearing squirrel fur slippers to a night club (she changed footwear after clubbing, then had a fight with her gf who drove off!) I said something to the degree of, "Please don't tell me you have UGGs at home...", (knowing she probably did) she said she had three pairs and I said she needed to turn around and go back to Bathurst because I don't associate with the UGG people. lol She loved it so I teased her more but I made sure to interlace it with genuine conversation, I also consciously kept quiet at times to let TheShowman and Timmy joke with her for some comfort building. What ensued was some of the best winging I've witnessed in my life from a complete stranger, Timmy expressed to her how thankful he was that I charmed him, a temporarily homeless man, at McDonald's :p and TheShowman bigged me up in a non-obvious manner. I could see her getting more and more intrigued by me, asking more questions and she started to tease back:

HbDomino's: Hey, do you still want my number?
Me: (kind of surprised) I'm not sure anymore, you have UGGs... (smiling)
HbDomino's: Haha Oh come on it's 647-xxx-xxxx.
Me: (even more surprised lol) Cool, I'm going to text you...(she cut me off)
HbDomino's: Don't text I don't get free messaging, call me right now and I'll save your number.
Me: (I call and it rings a couple of times) Haha! This is Pizza Pizza!
HbDomino's: Ha! got you Rico! Ok, my real number is 416-xxx-xxxx.
Me: (I call again) Haha, this is Domino's! (Hence HbDomino's)
HbDomino's: Hahaha!
Me: Wow, you must have been one fat person before! Why do you know so many pizza places' number's verbatim?
HbDomino's: I don't know...I just do... hehe

All four us we joking around while waiting for the bus but it was taking so long, we decided to take a cab. I ended up sitting in the front so I didn't get a chance to kino her in the backseat but as we drove and the cabdriver was educating me on the ins and outs of running a cab service, something clicked. I remembered a post I read in Yarbles' journal (Vancouver Lair) he said, whenever he's presented with a negative situation in his life he either tries to find the positives or turn it into one. With that in mind I pulled out my cell, passed it back to HbDomino's and simply said, "So how about you give another fake Pizza number." she grabbed my phone said "No." and put in her real name & number. I texted her and she saved me under a cute nickname from our earlier conversations. She had mentioned having to go to church early in the morning previously so I wasn't surprised that when we got to my area and tried to pull her back to my place, she said she had to get home because her parents would flip out if she missed church.

Lessons Learned
All in all a fun night, I learned a lot, I've got my confidence back and it makes an unbelievable difference in my body language, vocal tonality, the amount of approaches I do, my ability to build attraction with women. It's also unbelievable how much of a difference having a great wingman can make (TheShowman). One of my first lessons of the night was that it's good to #close before you attempt to pull, it helps devoid any sense of asking for her # as a consolation after she just rejected your request to come back to your place plus it helps address EN5, abandonment. You're screwed if you don't live downtown! hahaha No, but if you seem to always to run into logistical issues and you want to drastically increase your chances of SNLs moving downtown should be priority #1. I think some of the best places for "PU," night game wise are small chic venues, a lot of them tend to be restaurants during the day and clubs at night. In my humble opinion the ratio is consistently, 60% women and 40% men, I feel as though the women that go to these places tend to be a bit different from your typical Richmond St. "clubbers," if they're not more receptive and fun; they're older and DTF and the men that go there are hardly ever in groups they tend to have been brought by a girlfriend or be older AFCs who have no clue how to do anything besides talk about the weather or how they just installed a new drywall in their man-caves...Not to be too harsh on them, they're "nice guys" but we can do much much better than them.

CONFIDENCE and PERSISTENCE are key, I could have easily seen HbDomino's the second time, kept on walking, thinking to myself, "You know what I'm proud I already opened her, she rejected me but whatever I tried." and while that's a great mindset most of the time it can also be detrimental because if you're just satisfied with having opened sets and don't try to push them further you're never going to go anywhere. Sometimes you just have to be persistent...Re-enforced my beliefs in stereotyping and calibration my initial assumptions were correct and my approach worked on HbDomino's my strategy however did not, so while I managed to engage her in conversation she was not attracted to me and rejected my no. close. When I saw her the second time, I again assumed she was lost based on the fact that she had moved bustops and was still around and I calibrated to C&F because I had to show her that I'm not the "Mr. Nice Guy" she probably thought I was. It worked and I could have easily gone on teasing her throughout our whole interaction and one can assume I would have still #closed, although I don't think she would have replied to my text because we wouldn't have any genuine connection.
I think part of the reason why we couldn't pull back to my place is not that she didn't want upset her parents, I suspect she might have felt a potential violation of EN7, safety if she went home with three guys that she hardly knew.

I'm going to have to ask BK to thank Yarbles for the turning negatives into positives post because even though I teased HbDomino's about being fat when she tricked me I still felt like, "Here we go again, just jumped through some more hoops, Rico." but then I flipped it to an actual #close. There are no impossible circumstances only puzzles that need figuring out...

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Wednesday - 30/11/11

"Let Me Tell You a Story About My AFC"
I've been neglecting my AFC friends and I've been acting like a flakey HB...As you guys know I don't really have a social circle apart from the guys on this forum that I now consider to be my close friends (you know who you are), I just have a couple of AFC friends, ex-roommates or ex-workmates that I hang out with on occasion. These days for whatever reason I usually get a text or two during the weekend from one of them asking to hang out but unfortunately I work during the day and "come alive in the night time" so I mostly tell them I'm busy. This Wed I happened to not be doing anything and apparently it was $2 Coronas at Bull and Firkin so I decided to stop being an asshole and join my buddy. I got there a little late and found him in a 5set (2girls 3guys), they all knew each other so I was little intimidated because I knew they would all have their inside jokes and stories. Although, if there's one thing I've learnt from PU it's that you can handle almost every situation if you approach it with confidence in yourself. So I introduced myselfk cracked a few jokes and then didn't force myself into their conversation I chatted with whoever was next to me. After maybe 30mins 2 guys left so it was just my buddy, the 2 girls and I.

I found out one HB is engaged (HbSingleLadies) and the other one is in a LTR, (HbTwilight) with the 2 guys that just left. My AFC buddy was surprisingly good at allowing me to isolate the girls I don't know if he did it on purpose but hey I don't even care. HbTwilight started to go on and on about her problems in her relationship, this is what she said summarized: My boyfriend is an asshole I don't know why I'm still with him, By no means am I a subservient person, I'm a independent girl I picked him up at my bar for God sakes. Every time he texts me drunk, saying "I need really you to come and pick me up from xxx bar, I can't get home by myself" I drop everything I'm doing (i.e. work) and drive across the city to go and get him and half of the time he just nonchalantly goes home before I even get there...

"Boo hoo, sad story" lol She actually repeated that last story multiple times trying to squeeze out a different perspective/reaction from it. I analyzed it from my knowledge of PU and observed a number things. First of all, I was clearly the only person, out of the four of us hearing the story for the first time...Second, my buddy is so deep in the friend-zone here I'm surprised he hasn't drowned, Third, this girl feeds off of drama (hence HbTwilight) I think she loves being that girl with the "OMG you'll never believe what Nick just did, I don't even know why I'm still with him!" story. She may not even realize it, she most likely even thinks she hates it but I'm sorry she's a drama fiend. Finally, she knows exactly what's wrong with her relationship because she explained it perfectly by herself yet she's still not willing to take action. Why, because she needs the drama but more importantly she's got low self-worth/esteem. She thinks she can change him, poor girl. I wasn't about to emulate my friend and be her shoulder to cry on but I still wanted to convey my thoughts on the matter so I decided to experiment on these girls, it seemed to work...

Scale of Relationship Investment (Credit to Devlin)
The first thing I taught them was about the the scale of investment between men and women at the beginning of a relationship vs during the relationship. When I first said, "Guys are more invested in a relationship..." HbTwilight immediately cut me off and said, "You're wrong!" I then told her to "Hold on and let me finish..." I knew this would touch her and I hadn't even gotten into the good stuff yet. I explained how if a guy meets a cute girl in bar, they have an amazing connection and she gives him her phone number. From that moment most men are super committed he's thinking, "I want to see this girl tomorrow, I'm going to call/text her and try and get her out asap." Possibly because he wants to fuck her, possibly because he wants something deeper either way he's committed to making it happen. The girl is thinking, "Ok, so I just met this awesome guy and I think we had a genuine connection but is he really genuine though or does he just want to get in my pants?" So everything she does from now on is coming from a skeptical mind-frame, even if she's free, she might say she's not just to see how determined he is or she might flake on certain dates that she perceives could lead to sex, she's way less committed. Meanwhile the guy is going, "Oh you live where? Sure I'll travel an hour across town to meet you" "Oh yeah, I did have plans with my friend but I'll cancel." (extremely committed) Now let's say they go out on a couple dates and he passes all her little tests, they have an amazing time, they have sex and it's awesome, everything's wonderful. Fast forward six months to a year later, the girl at this point fully trusts her now boyfriend and she's emotionally invested in this relationship willing to do anything to make it work, "You're hungry? I'll make you a sandwich honey," she calls/texts him everyday just to let him know she's thinking about him...The guy at this point feels like "Hey, I've got the girl now it's time to get back to hanging out with my boys..." So he starts to put his friends ahead of her and she's stuck at home/work sending texts like, "Where are you?" And now he's way less committed to the relationship while she's become super committed and drama ensues...While I explained this the girls were dead silent and just entranced, I asked them what they thought and they responded, "You're absolutely right!" in unison. :p

Knowing Your Value (Credit to Fable)
Girls never seize to amaze me HbTwilight is at least hot enough to attract much better guys than her boyfriend, she's also intelligent and has actual solid opinions on life but she doesn't see herself that way, she feels that her boyfriend is what she deserves, it's twisted man! At some point she mentioned that her bf is moving provinces soon, so I asked if she was moving with him and she says, "No, I'm not invited... "lol I felt bad for her but I was still not going to be her shoulder to cry on so I didn't try to console her I just asked, "If he invited you, would you go?" and she responded, "Of course, of course..." At this point my buddy took HbSingleLadies out for a smoke and HbTwilight decided to stay with me. We got back into the whole relationships debate and I could tell through subtext that every point she made or at least tried to make was somehow related to her boyfriend. I decided to teach her about valuing herself:

Me: People don't realize they're value personally, I know who I am and derive happiness from that, I mean right now I have women in my life that I date and have sex with but I could be the loneliest guy in the world and still be happy (I wish lol) because I know my value...For the most part I don't care what people think of me, I think a lot of people are afraid to say hey look "I'm proud of who I am" (she chimed in a bit essentially adding to my point) and I love myself because they will get judged and because we've been taught not show off growing up so that we don't make other people feel bad. But why should I sacrifice my own self-worth to make some else happy, well I say fuck that I know I'm a good looking guy and that women are attracted to me (she nods), that I'm a good person, that I'm intelligent and I'm fun to be around, that's my value why should I hide it? I'm not afraid to tell people the truth and I'm not douche bag about it so I find that people actually respect me for it. So If I go up to a girl and she rejects me I might be upset for 10seconds but then I remember my value.
HbTwilight: I wish I had your confidence, when I get rejected it takes me a much much much longer time to get over it.
Me: Know your value and never give someone more value than you get in return. (Translation: Don't stay with a guy that treats you like crap while you shine his balls everyday, you're better than that.) It's like the whole friend zone thing.
HbTwilight: I don't believe in it...
Me: Psssh think about how many male friends you have, do you have a lot? (She nods) Out of those guy friends you're telling me that if they all tried to push your relationship to the next level every single one would have a chance?
HbTwilight: (She thought about it for a second) Hahaha Hell no!
Me: That's the friend-zone...Now, If I hang out with a girl that I'm sexually attracted to and while she likes me, she only sees me as a friend why would I hang out with her anymore?
HbTwilight: What if she's a really good person and needs someone to talk to?
Me: That's great but she should find somebody else to talk, not me...If I'm sexually attracted to you and all you want is for me to sit here and listen to your problems, who do you think is getting hurt here?
HbTwilight: You...
Me: Exactly, it's like you want what I have to offer my companionship, my humour, my knowledge and you're giving me nothing in return but sexual frustration. So in those situations I just make my intentions crystal clear. I'd say, "Look I'm attracted to you so I cannot be your "friend" it's fine if you don't feel the same way but I'm not the kind of guy who likes to bullshit." and done.
HbTwilight:: Haha it's so ironic because then they'll start to want you because women want what they can't have. haha

A little later my AFC friend came back with HbSingleLadies and began to talk about how he's got a "complicated situation..." He's trying to use some girl to get another girl and he's kind of in the friend-zone with the one that he likes but hopefully she'll realize how much nice of a guy he is and they magically fall in love...He also said that HbTwilight & her bf aren't actually together anymore but they still live together and that her bf also likes the girl that he likes. It's only complicated because he's making it complicated, from what they said and I observed HbTwilight's bf is an Alpha and he's a "bad boy" so he's more inclined to just go up to her and directly ask her out and then my buddy will be checking into the Masturbation Plaza, I explained that to him hopefully he takes my advice goes for what he wants and honestly what he deserves.

Lessons Learned

I never expected to learn so much from this kind of interaction but this is why I value and desire having plutonic female friends. The ironic part is these girls were probably thinking, "Why aren't I dating this guy?" especially HbTwilight, I got so many IOIs from her when we were in isolation but, the logistics would have never panned out. She was with her engaged best friend, my AFC friend was there and he's friends with their significant others.

Find Comfort in the Silence meaning don't panic if you're feeling left out of a group conversation. I used to try hard to fit in in these type of scenarios, which just creates awkward moments, so sit back comfortably, listen, laugh when you actually find something funny, and speak up when you actually have an opinion. Relax, don't try and talk for the sake of talking, you'll have your chances just make sure to take them when they come...When I arrived at the pub I found my friend with four people that I didn't know and wasn't expecting it, sure I felt intimidated, sure they had they're inside jokes/stories that I didn't get, but I didn't let that make me feel uncomfortable I just spoke to whoever was idle and when I had an opinion, I didn't ask, "Oh what does that mean?" or "Who did that?" forcing them to have to explain every little tedious detail. Eventually, I had my chance, I took over the conversation, I had something interesting to say and from then on they encouraged me to speak...

TheShowman said it best in is his journal, "the best conversational topic is her" Women love to meet a guy who seems to know it all when it comes to them and relationships and they love being told about themselves. You're almost guaranteed to be the most unique guy they've ever met if you can sit down and tell them about themselves without really getting to know them. These girls were 10 years older than me and were taking dating advice from me lol, a lot of times they almost had completely opposing views from me but I kept a strong confident frame, had the facts to back up my opinions and the end result was that I shifted their whole mindset. It's fascinating to expel all this knowledge that I've accumulated onto the fairer sex and for it to be spot on 80% of the time. It's mostly bad to get advice on picking up women from women when you have no knowledge but when you have your own experience and philosophies it's simply fun...I ❤ PU

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Direct vs Indirect
Hey dude, at this point I don't have a set way of approaching anymore, I always gauge the situation in order to know what the best approach is. i.e if it's a night club dance floor, the smoker's section, a lounge or a bar, my approach will alter. One thing's for sure though direct will save you a lot time but at the same time it'll get you blown out more times than not.

This is what I said in Uzzey's journal, "I think it's great that you're doing direct game although I think it's more beneficial for day game. During the day people are going places and not necessarily in a social mood therefore you need to directly state why you've approached them early on (Credit to Fable). In night game people are there to socialize so that need to know why you've approached them is mostly eliminated. At night, I do a mixture of direct and indirect (mostly indirect) depending on the girl and how I feel. Even if I don't go direct I always get sexual or state my intentions very early on in the conversation I think this is important for SNLs. In my humble opinion I would recommend you to be careful about giving out too many compliments (especially if they're generic) and going direct 100% of the time during night game, women enjoy being seduced..."

Four indirect approaches I typically do are: 1. a simple name introduction, 2. Commenting on something interesting that's happening in the place (for example if someone falls down on the dance floor, I'll make a joke about that), 3. on the dance floor I might fist pump in between a set and high five the girls twirl them around but leave my target for last and 4. I don't really use this opener anymore but when I made it, it was especially helpful if I was drawing a blank and a really great conversational starter (all you need is a girly drink my girly drink of choice is a "Sex on the Beach" ) so it goes, "Hey girls, so I'm drinking a Sex on the Beach and my friends are making fun of me but I feel like it's the most manly drink ever, what do you think?" I used to love this because it was so easy to transition into an actual conversation, either way this is setting a playful, flirty frame from the get go and you get to say "Sex on the Beach" in your first couple of words. lol They might agree sarcastically and play along or they might disagree either way my response was something like, "I think it takes a real man to drink a "Sex on the Beach" with no shame..." they'd usually laugh and agree and then I could take it further and joke about how "Real men like me aren't afraid to admit they like Backstreet Boys". From there the conversation would pretty much take off.

Some openers are nice and fun like the, "Sex on the Beach" one but I stopped using them really because people rarely remember the first thing you said to them and they usually respond more to your energy rather than what you're saying...You probably know this but for example if you sheepishly go up and say "Hi, my name is Rico," the girls will be able to sense your nervous energy and will most likely project that back to you which in turn will cause awkwardness. If you confidently, step up as say "Hi, my name is Rico" and stick out your hand with confidence you're taking control of the situation and they have no choice but to eventually adopt your energy.

Sometimes I go up and say "Hi, girls my name is Rico," maybe say something funny and go " Now obviously, the reason why I came up to you girls is because I find you attractive but I still want to see if you guys have any of the qualities I look for in women." I like that because that's genuine, that's really how I feel, I state my intentions and subtly compliment them (in non-generic way) very early, it also shows that I'm a confident, honest person and I think it puts them in the position of qualifying themselves to me.

Conclusion

I my opinion is that with night game it's more about the energy you project than what you actually open with and indirect is mostly better not just because you get blown out less but it also builds social proof if people see you locked in conversations with cute girls for an extended period of time as opposed to just jumping from set to set getting blown out. I hope my ramblings have helped please feel free to let me know what you think.

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My Emotions

A couple of nights ago amidst an impassioned and lengthy phone conversation with theShowman, (mostly me baring my soul to him about current developments with...you guessed it, a girl) I had a realization. When I first got into "pick up" I remember thinking of myself as being too emotional or having, "afc emotions" which to me are emotions like anger, jealousy, neediness, frustration, loneliness, sadness, fear, nervousness, longing and even love (I was a really frustrated and depressed dude). And so I figured that learning and practicing "pick up'' would eliminate those emotions makes sense right? Fast forward to present day and "pick up" hasn't taught me how to eliminate those feelings I still feel frustrated or jealous or find myself longing for affection from a fwb. And while it has to helped me almost completely suppress some of them, it has mostly taught me how to identify and control them.

For example, I had this girl (HbPlaystation) over at my place a couple of days ago and as we were about to head out to grab some food, she tells me she's going straight home afterwards because she has an exam in the morning she needs to study for. I didn't show it but I was a little disappointed and taken aback, so I simply suggested it was still early and she should come back to chill after dinner for a little bit. To make a long story short she ended up coming back Now we're seated on the couch and she calls up a guy and proceeds to flirt with him right in front of me, she tells him that it's still early (isn't that my line? lol) and she wanted to come and see him after she left my place. I guess the guy asked her who I was so she says my name, turns to me and smiles, I just coyly smiled and winked back. But inside I was fuming, wtf she told me she had to study for an exam! Anyhow, almost immediately after I winked at her she pulled a complete 180, she starts telling the guy that although she wants to see him, she most likely won't make it, it's actually kind of late but she'd text him if she can etc etc...

As you might have guessed she was trying to make me jealous and she definitely succeeded in doing so. As an AFC I might have been tempted to call her out for lying which would have probably made her get defensive and leave. By confronting her in this situation I would have only succeeded in pushing her away from me and into the arms of the guy on the phone. I recognized this, separated my reaction from my emotions and in the end she spent the night with me.

I have little control over how I feel however I do have control over how I react...

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Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you guys! I swear I've gone from extreme to extreme last semester I couldn't get off the forum which distracted me from my classes, once even in an exam! No but seriously, now in this semester I've managed to balance PU and school more effectively but I can't seem to find the time to post and of course I fear that if I do get back onto the forum on a more regular basis I will relapse! haha Anyway...
Thanks for the feedback Tess, great quote by FBK much more refined than mine lol
Uzzey, I appreciate your input but I think it's a little misguided... Firstly, girls like her are not inherently dishonest they just play a lot of games (an HbPlaystation) . I don't think she consciously lied to me, she's just used to testing and manipulating most guys. So she set up a trap to see if the self assured, non-reactive persona she saw from me was really congruent, I'm sure in the past she's innocently called up/texted a guy friend and had the guy she was hanging out with freak out. We're not therapists, we can't change that, we just have to pass these tests in order say it with me, "GET LAID." Secondly, I'm not sure whether you were joking or not but please refrain from calling women, "bitches" at least not on my journal. As men we've created our own problems with regards to casual sex. With that kind of attitude and language; labelling women as bitches, sluts and whores, we cause them to feel the need to protect their EN1 Reputation (FBK) and then wonder why it's so hard to get laid...Well maybe if we refrained from judging them in that way they would feel more comfortable going home with you for an SNL, think about it...
Thanks Rugged, I'm always asking for any advice when I post. I like this idea and can definitely see how it would force her to deny that she wants the other guy. One question though, do you think you might be perceived as a little jealous by doing so? (The jealousy might not even be looked at negatively.)

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lol I've definitely, been adapting this mindset of late, with the same girl actually. I would have been tearing my hair out at the idea a year ago though, but Johnny Soporno's getting me more and more into polyamory. His material is slowly stripping away all of my morals, dammit Johnny! haha

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I should have posted this a while ago!

Sat Night - Jan 2012

My third night out since I got back and I felt like I was getting back into the groove of things. BK and I got invited to a new club on King St W. When we got there it was pretty empty but the staff was very friendly and in a short while it was teaming with women, mostly Asians. Interestingly enough I saw a latina I had been gaming the night before but she was with a guy, I decided to go over and say hi. She seemed extremely nervous to see me, I wonder why I asked if her friends were around and she said it was just her and the guy, they were obviously on a date. lol I went back to join Bk and we talked to a few girls before hitting the dance floor. I opened a 3set completely focused on my target (Hb Bi-Dancer) by challenging her to a dance off which eventually led to some grinding, playful teasing etc. I liked her she was really high energy, I hardly ever dance with girls that can keep up. I learnt that she's bi-sexual and was actually there with a girl she had been/was hooking up with...interesting. I thought to myself "possible threesome?" I pushed, but the logistics wouldn't pan out. I qualified her and #closed as Bk and I had decided to change venues.

We get to the next bar and Bk opens a 3set while I was in the bathroom. I joined him, sat next to one girl, HbTinyTatas. As we mentioned we had just moved into a place close to the ACC she tells me they were just at the ACC for a bridal show and their phones had died so they couldn't get to some house party, at the time I didn't think anything of it.
We were talking to these girls for about 5-10mins before we suggested they come to our place for some Rosé, they agreed, with precision timing TheShowman swoops in to woo the third girl and we head out.

A couple of comments these girls made stood out to me on the way to our place, the first was HbTinyTatas saying, "It's been so long since she had done anything like this", the second was "We're not sluts or anything but you're really handsome" and the third, "We don't normally do this kind of thing you know." I knew what this was...ASD and eventually LMR being triggered but I'm used to those kind of comments coming from girls individually, in which case I would qualify and go a little bit into Johnny Soporno's material about societies labelling and judging of women's sexuality. I chose to qualify my girl individually then and I addressed the group by bringing up Johnny's paradigm, while we were all chatting later. When we got inside the girls said they liked the view, so I picked up HbTinyTatas (literally) and carried her to the balcony. (I like making spontaneous/caveman style moves like this, it's dominant and exciting which in my experience makes most women horny and also I didn't give her a chance to say no). Once I had her in isolation on the balcony, I pushed her up against the wall and she asked, "What are you going to do with me?" I stepped closer to her, put my hand under chin, leaned in and kissed her. At first I could feel her resist my kiss a little, then give in and start scratching my back in lust. If it had been summer and just the two of us I would have pulled out my borewors and fucked right there but it wasn't and I pulled away first and said it was cold so we went back inside. We had chatted a bit more (lots of sexual tension) and did some more qualifying before we joined the group. At this point the girls put on some music, we popped the champagne and brought up Johnny's paradigm, the conversation led to the girls mentioning, how the music makes them horny.

HbTinyTatas was rubbing my inner thighs and began giving me lap dance right in front of the group...I knew that if I escalated right there it would be a violation of, EN1 Reputation so I remained unresponsive which, I could see turned her on. Eventually, I lifted her up (again), took her to my room this time, she said, "so this is where you bring all your girls huh?" I responded "Nope, only special ones," and threw her onto my bed. I pounced on her took her top and bra off to expose her tiny tatas, now if you know me I'm usually not into small tits but for whatever reason her's have completely shifted my view on the matter...lol As I pulled down her panties she stopped me and pulled them back up, I didn't think this was actual LMR so I stopped...for now, we started making out again and I could feel her getting more and more wet as I rubbed her pussy over her panties, I decided to get completely naked and guided her head towards my cock. As she was giving me a bj she would periodically stop and say "Do you want my body? You want my body huh," I'm not sure why but I found that so funny at the time I had stop myself from bursting out laughing (of course I didn't show it). She started pleasuring herself as she sucked me off and I knew she wouldn't resist me now so pulled her up and was about to peel off her panties. When BANG! the door slams open and the lights get turned on by her 2 friends! Who at first giggled, then rudely stated, "Yeah, we're cock blocking you!" I coyly smiled and responded with, "That's cool, I appreciate the fact that you're protective of your friends, I'm the same way with mine..." They looked surprised at my reaction, calmed down and left us to dress up.

I didn't hear this part because I was still in my room but I was told, HbTinyT's friends began scolding her and calling her a slut when she came out of the room. I did hear TheShowman say something to the effect of, "In this place we don't judge and we don't call people such names, this is a non-judgemental house" and them turn into little girls apologizing to daddy. lol Soon after they left the boys then told me that HbTinyTatas was wait for it...engaged. Now them being at a bridal show and her saying she hadn't done anything like this in so long made even more sense!

Lessons Learned

A major lesson I learnt is how much easier it is to pull when you live downtown. It's an instant game changer, I don't think it matters what stage you're at if you can, move downtown. Going back to one of my previous posts, control your response despite your emotions i.e. When she was giving me a lap dance I was completely unresponsive and that caused her to get more turned on plus I protected her reputation by not escalating in front of the group or when her friends barged into the room and were rude I could have easily reacted angrily but that would have only had a negative result.
Be a caveman, in other words you need to be sexually dominant, i.e. The two times I literally lifted her up, when I took her to the balcony pushed up against the wall and kissed her or when I took her to my cave and threw her onto my bed, women love that kind of sexual dominance. Plus you're taking full responsibility for sex because you're not giving her the option to say no and I think or at least I hope it goes without saying if she does say no then stop! And finally great friends/wingmen elevate your game by 100% if the other girls weren't enamoured by BK and TheShowman there's no way they would have allowed HbTinyT to enter my cave...

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Uncle Bad Touch Lair Talk

Got mind fucked again by Johnny a.k.a Uncle Bad Touch, last Friday. It was a great talk about 7hrs long, I've watched some Seductive Reasoning videos, this would be my third time seeing Johnny in person and I've definitely grown and implemented a lot of material into my life since I last saw him. I've probably said this before but I'll reiterate that I don't think anyone starting off should focus on Johnny's material, it would make absolutely no sense to that person, I would have probably quit if I had focused on Johnny's stuff when I started. He is way beyond the basics, if you can't even have a conversation with a girl then you'll want to get those kind of issues sorted out before studying Uncle Bad Touch.

I noticed a couple of things about the talk, when he was in his rhythm, I saw a lot of people mirroring his body language, if Johnny crossed his legs I noticed a few guys cross their legs too, if he put his hands together, they did it too. I even caught myself mirroring him a few times! This is a sign of the kind of connection Johnny gets people to feel for him and you can also build rapport/connection with someone much quicker by purposely mirroring their body language, it has to be subtle though! (Simon Winthrop) He was trying to balance addressing the new guys and the guys that had already heard him talk before. Either way you take in so much information that it's probably best to go over his material over and over again. BK and I also noticed how a lot of the guys were texting during the talk (I don't understand how these guys could be so disrespectful) and a few of them couldn't shake hands or introduce themselves properly. Those are the simple things you need notice and work on guys. I'm not posting about what he actually spoke about because there's way too much to cover but his Seductive Reasoning videos are available for free on his website. Overall it was an amazing experience and it was extremely reinvigorating.

http://www.seductivereasoning.com/

Sticking Points

Sexual Aggressiveness - It's amazing how I had worked on this a lot a few months ago and thought I had it down and now I need to work on it again. What I mean is just progressing the conversation to a more sexual nature, taking more risks and framing. I tried this recently, I've been telling girls flat out that I wanted to "Fuck them" during conversation while this may have shaken them a little , the general response I've been getting was "I actually hear that often" Hmm...I highly doubt that, it's more likely to do with the way I framed the conversation leading up to me saying, "I want to fuck you" I had build a lot comfort around being hones so by the time I said the most honest thing any guy can say to a girl he just met she was half expecting it and felt the need to be cool and non responsive. I need to be more aggressive physically and slip the line into conversation covertly for a more potent effect.

The Art of the Pull - If anyone knows about material or posts about pulling, that would be extremely helpful. This has been my sticking point for a while, I've had some situations where pulling was very easy, I've had some situations that required a bit of tact and I've had some situations where I just had no clue what I was doing...Obviously a lot of this comes with experience but when it comes to pulling there are so many different scenarios that I feel like I need some theory to help guide me through the murky areas as well.

Motivation - I still go out, I still approach women, I still attempt to pull or #close when appropriate but even during these moments I've felt like my heart wasn't fully in it. Now I've chalked this up to a couple of things.
1. Fwbs - Getting consistent sex from these girls definitely eats away at my inspiration. I'd like to think that I don't need consistent sex but I think back to the great 2month drought of Nov - Dec, 2011 and it was a sad time man, a sad sad time...lol In all seriousness it affected my mood negatively but it also inspired me tremendously, ....
2. Negative Outside Influence - For example, financial, family, school and etc. these influences can definitely distract me and put a damper on my mood at times. Meditation, positive mantras, and pursuing my other passions i.e. soccer, cooking and reading will prevent me from worrying or beating myself up.
3. Steady Progress - I may be wrong but I honestly feel like I'm not learning that much when I go out these days, a couple of months ago I would learn so much I knew exactly what to improve on, now I'm not quite sure. I've been telling myself that I have a certain level of experience and knowledge and that's why but that's bullshit, it is mainly because I'm not sitting down immediately afterwards and reflecting on the events from the night like I used to in the past and because I'm not posting more field reports.

There are probably over 100 essentials to be taken from Johnny's talk but the most important lesson it reminded me of is that I have so much to learn, there are so many unexplored areas in this journey and that gives me inspiration. As Socrates poignantly put it, "To know, is to know that you know nothing. That is the meaning of true knowledge."

Red Ranger Out!

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16/04/12

Went out during the day with BK, Qlue and Tess had tons of fun with the guys joking around, a few good interactions, no numbers but overall it was nice to be back out there during the day and I want to keep the momentum going for a great summer. After a while Tess had to go home and a couple of hours later BK, Qlue and I went to hotel bar no too far from where we live. The bar was almost exactly the way I expected it to be except slightly busier. I've been reading this book called "How to be a Mentalist" by Simon Winthrop, you may have watched the show or already know what a Mentalist is but it's a basically person who you uses mental acuity, suggestion and/or hypnosis to manipulate people's behavior or thoughts. One of the main lessons the book teaches is being observative even when it comes to the most minute, tedious details about a person, conversation, environment, etc. What this does is cause you take in more information than you normally would which will over time increase your memory retention but more importantly allow you to make accurate assumptions about a person/situation.

Anyhow, I noticed 2 girls by the bar HbPetiteblonde and HbRed (self-explanatory). First thing I noticed is that HbRed had been chatting with some guy to her right while HbPBlonde was bored on the other side. I pointed them out to BK and he approached, after a few mins I joined focusing on HbRed. The interaction was immediately flirty, with some light kino as she sat and I stood, I noticed she had a wedding ring on her left hand but after a while she began to actively hide that hand. (like Johnny says women traveling by themselves are always single). At some point this guy comes up to us and joins the conversation, from his body language and what he said I initially thought the girls knew him, I was slightly bothered as the guy was quite attractive but I didn't let that dictate my actions I let him chat with the girls they complimented him on his shirt, he asked the girls whether BK and I had bought them drinks when they said we didn't he said "Oh, then they're good pick up artists." lol I didn't bother reacting to this and after a while their conversation began to die down. I struck up a conversation with him and was completely respectful, built a bunch of rapport with him, he asked to take my no. down and excused himself from our group.

We pushed the interaction as far possible with these two, I #closed HbRed by telling her take down my no. and text me on the spot, saying that I would forget to text her if she gave me hers. BK and I were about to head out when we noticed Qlue chatting up a girl, we sat down to wait for him. At this point I noticed 2girls walking through the lobby HbSexySpecs and HbLatinMix, I stopped them started chatting them up, turns out they were in town to see Oprah (how cute), 19, just graduated from high school and were taking a year off to figure out what they wanted to do. After about 20mins or so BK joins the conversation, they liked him as well so I decided to pull. These girls were really friendly but I noticed how insecure they were, they completely followed my frame from the start off the interaction, I wonder how many truly dominant guys they came across in high school. I mentioned how our condo is right across from the hotel and they said they wanted to have some drinks but the bar was closed, (Perfect) I said we have some vodka and assorted drinks. HbSexySpecs mentions how vodka is her favorite drink and says lets go but HbLatinMix hesitates she mentions she has a boyfriend, I smiled coyly and said "That doesn't mean anything to me." HbSexySpecs giggles, HbLatinMix replies with I don't think I trust myself on vodka around you. I pushed a little further then #closed chatted for a few more minutes and said when she's in Toronto next she should give me a call.

Update: I almost had coffee with HbRed the next day but I misunderstood one of her texts, missed the opportunity and she was only in town for a couple of days. I was actually surprised that HbRed contacted me the day after she left, seeing as she's married I thought she would feel guilty but she has kept in touch since. She's coming to Toronto in August I just have to maintain our communication until then. Not much work but I'm trying to keep the conversation sexual and interesting, it's a delicate balance because I don't want to do everything at once I need to escalate it periodically until August.

Lessons Learned

The Heart Wants, What the Heart Wants - What I mean is despite all the obstacles between me and HbRed (age difference, proximity and oh her marriage) she still wants me. I've been with married women before but I always felt like they were afraid and very secretive, this girl hides that she's married but acts like she's completely single and open, it's hilarious. One thing that crossed my mind though is that she may just want to have an emotional affair, meaning this flirty texting is as far she's willing to go because she's bored with her actual relationship, this might just be a fantasy for her. But I think I addressed this by sending her a really explicit sexual fantasy story about her and I, she was surprised but receptive. I bet her husband had a good time that night. lol

Hotel Bars are Great- It's kind of moot point but I hadn't really tried the hotel bar scene so I was genuinely impressed. There aren't a lot of women but the ones that are there are older, DTF and of course if they're from out of town, that's even better!

Qlue's a great guy to game/hang out with.

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20/04/2012

Fable and I head to a pub in the UofT area, we meet up with his friends who are non PU guys. A little later Tess and a couple of his friends join us. We had a big group of dudes (too much testosterone for me lol) I only knew two people there but I was having a blast. The guys were fun in particular there was one guy I chatted with a bit and was surprised to learn what I did about him. This guy was about 25, works at Abercrombie & Fitch as a model so we spoke about our respective experiences working there, he's an extremely nice, humble guy, very handsome by commercial standards probably a 9/10 but he's a virgin! I'm still a little surprised as to why but it did explain a lot of his behavior he came across as extremely shy when we spoke, he kept on looking down and stumbled a lot in his speech. The lesson I took from him is that looks aren't everything.

Anyhow as we chat, I get a text from Fable pointing out 2 girls behind us HbPharmacist and HbHipster. I tell Tess about it and we both thought they were cute so I decide to go for it. I went it (slightly nervous but I made sure I conveyed confidence) and simply introduced myself, chatted for a few minutes:

Me: What brings you girls to this lovely student bar?
HbHipster: (giggles) Actually we're not even students we just live close by.
Me: So you guys are imposters, how dare you impersonate a student.
HbHipster: (they laugh) Is it against the law?
Me: Of course I'm the sheriff of these here parts.
HbHipster: Well you know I shot the sheriff...
Me: But you didn't shoot the deputy... (I point to Tess)

He joined soon after at this point I was more into HbHipster as she was more my type physically but they way we were positioned kind forced to me focus on HbPharmacist who was cute anyway either way I couldn't lose. Tess and I were standing while the girls were seated, there was no space for us to sit down, and we had shit load of foot traffic forcing us to move every couple of minutes so I said:

Me: Listen girls, it's kind of awkward for Tess and I with all the traffic here, how about you guys join our table over there and we'll have some drinks and a great time. (They looked interested but apprehensive)
Me: (I look them in the eyes and smurk confidently) You know your night's going to be better if you do...(then I walk away without looking back)

So the girls follow my lead we made room for them on the table, I went up to HbPharmacist and said "You're going to sit next to me and she'll sit next to him...(Tess)" They giggled and said "Ok..." At the table I introduced the girls to my the guys and they seemed kind of surprised that we had just pulled some random girls, while I genuinely enjoyed the validation and my ego was stroked, I didn't acknowledge, I pretended like it's the most natural thing in the world. At this point I was just trying to maintain a nice, witty and flirty conversation with my girl lots of eye contact, I complimented her outfit she looked flustered and claimed she doesn't really follow the trends but tries to look good. We were with these girls for about 40mins before we decided to go to a nightclub, I invited them along and even gave an impassioned rendition of Martin Luther King Jr's "I have a Dream" speech (mine might have been about an eclectic mix of people getting shit faced and going dancing but it was profound none the less). The girls were amused and while they were mulling it over Fable, Tess and I went to settle our bills, I assumed that one of the other guys would keep the girls occupied but they all got up to pay as well and by the time we came back the girls had decided against joining us, I #closed HbHipster and left.

We went to the club and I separated from the group to do some approaches, it was pretty much hit and miss and I the A&F virgin I had mentioned earlier seemed to look genuinely terrified and frozen so I felt an obligation to hang out with him most of the night. Overall I just had a good time hanging out with Fable, Tess and they're friends.

Lessons Learned

Escalation - This is something that Fable pointed out to me, I didn't escalate enough. I definitely think this was mainly because we were at a table with about 10guys so it would be kind of awkward but regardless I should have done a little more than I did. In general I mostly focus on verbal escalation in those situations and do escalate whenever possible but his form of fast escalation is significantly more poignant and physical hence why he gets more women than I do and of course because of the part where he's Fable. I'm definitely going to be escalating way more aggressively in the future.

You Life is Amazing and She's Free to Tag Along - When I invited the girls to join us at our table, the frame I had in my mind was "I'm leaving now but I would love for you guys to join us, my night's going to be great regardless." I maintained an outcome independent and dominant frame (dominant because I didn't leave any room for discussion by walking away). I think if you have that frame of mind more often than not the girls will sense that will not want to pass up the opportunity of spending the night with you.

Cover All Your Bases - I genuinely think the girls would have come to the nightclub if I hadn't left them alone, after my truly...just truly remarkable speech lol they were warming up to the idea of clubbing but I think they had a chance to talk amongst themselves and formed a solid excuse. Don't trust AFCs to do your job!

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