As much as I agree with you, but you know what David Deangelo will say? "Don't be a wuss!"

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OMFG!!! , you sure you want to be with a such boring ignorant girl? then when you manage to have sex whit her will be the most boring sex ever... not blowjobs, only missionary position, etc.. for the love of Jesus fucking Christ, what are you thinking pal?

no sex because the bible says "no sex til "love"" ? the bible doesnt say that.... fucking shit... also, drinking alcohol to the point of getting drunk is a SIN, did she know that?..


for me, if a girl names the bible thats a HUGE turn off to me.. but well.. if you wanna fuck her, then hey, respect her beliefs......


how about showing her this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

Holy shit man thats some serious forward shit... she will run out the room[/quote]

Haha, that cracked me up. If you don't do it someone else will! Might as well be you. Do you mean to tell me that you have never pulled your dick out for her? That is the oldest trick in the book for overcoming LMR. When you see a pussy don't you want to fuck it? Well, same thing goes for girls when they see a hard, throbbing cock! Nature will take over.
Maybe with this girl you can have her "just touch it" at first. Then "just stroke it". Then "now suck it".
She has dreamed for years about what her first time will be like. I guarantee she has not dreamed about some shy, insecure boy that is afraid to take what he wants. She has dreamed about a strong, alpha man that knows what he wants and is willing to take it despite her little shit tests and ravage her properly.

Be that man.

Thank me later.

Q

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Haha, I grabbe her hand, and I put it on my dick and I was like, baby, this is what you do to me. And she just threw her hand off....

Today she was saying how she has so much energy... and i was like, i know what we can use it on... and she said what, and im like... us, you and me ... and she is like.. haha no I need to do sports. I was like, ok ill use it on dancing with other people in a club... like im just litreally running out of ideas... what about roofies, ropes and handcufs? HAHA FUCK

Go to a party and get wasted with her. If that doesn't solve the problem, throw the towel.

good advice but the OP written several other thread about how this super christian girl's not putting out. It should never be this much of a task to get sex from your own girlfriend. He wants sex she doesn't(well putting on a front like she doesn't) they're not on the same page. She doesn't even give hand jobs!

1 of 3 things are going to happen this guy

1. he's going to get fed up and break up with her

2. She's going to get drunk and fuck someother dude while she still with him.

3. She going to break up with him and fuck some other guy almost immediately.

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Love my odds there.

man, look it this way... her beliefs are much more powerful that any pua skills... sure she WANTS to get fucked... sure she responds to that.. but Christian people are afraid to hell, and those kind of shit...
I know a 28 years old Christian virgin.. what a waste of a life... best advice i can give you, set your limits, you are obviously UNDER her, you're like desperate like you can't get other woman as beautiful as her..
set a time goal, if you didn't fuck her until that moment, move on, don't waste you life

sex is the number 1 pleasure in life, don't waste you valuable time while you can be fucking other girls

respect yourself dude.. respect that you are a sexual person, a natural person...

Ross Jerffies has some good advice on dealing with women like this.

Also, leaving talking about her religion out of the conversation would be beneficial.

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Yep, looks like your whipping a dead horse. Just next her with something like "You can call me when you grow up."

Then forget about her.

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I wouldn't say that your hopeless.

At this point I'd go against most usual PUA styles.

You are asking people who game women with emotions and and routines to arouse emotions in her.

None of that has worked for you.

Therefore I'd say you should go hell Mary and try to convince her into changing her view on sex. Discuss sex with her and be prepared with arguments. Be sure you have an epic saying to finish with so you'll really get her thinking.

For this you need some rhetoric skills though.

Again, I have dated a similar chick. She was virgin, half muslim though. I mentioned her earlier in this thread. Sex was baaaaad though, missionary and she wouldn't remove her brah:P I got her to give head on the fourth lay. I'm not going to see her again atleast.

Ok, so I've come up with the perfect solution to your problem. All the other methods are risky and have different shortcomings. But not this one, this is 100% guaranteed! If you want this girl, there is only this one fool proof method that will work for sure. Here is the step-by-step method:

-you join the church
-keep dating for about a year more
-ask for her father's permission, than engage her
-wait another year with marrige so you don't seem needy of sex
-marry her
-f-close her on the honeymoons

Trust me, this is 100% sure. This will take some time, but what is a few years compared to eternity?? You can call me the PUA Pope now

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well this is my input for you:

I just had sex a week ago with a christian girl. I've been seeing her for 4 months now. She always told me that she wasn't waiting for marriage but the girl was 21 years old so obviously she wasn't going to give her virginity away to any random guy. I worked her for 3-4 months but actually I wasn't seing her that much... Once a week or twice MAX but... whenever I saw her, I made sure she wouldn't forget me. I made sure she had a blast. I made sure that I didn't talk to her every day but when I talked to her I would make fun of her, make her laugh, play some text games, be cocky... I'd always make sure that whenever she'd go to bed, she would think of me being a really fun guy to be around but not only that, I'd make sure that she knew I'm a very sexual human being and that it was OKAY to be... and I made sure that even though I don't go out with her, that in her head, I was her man.

She's my best friend cousin, I met her in a club, yet again, I saw her in a span of 3-4 months only twice in the club, but the 2 times I saw her, I promise you, we had a fucking blast. We were grinding on the dance floor like we were actually having sex.

You have to understand something that I am learning with this type of girl. Don't forget that they have remained virgin until 21-22 years old, means they haven't had serious relationships. Which means, they are used to be alone, they are used to turn back guys. They never had sex. They don't know how good it feels. So they don't get as emotionnal attached or as easily attached as other girls who have been having active sex life. They still don't know. So, you have to stop making her the center of your world, because if you do, you won't fuck her. Why? Because it will take time. And the longer you make her the center of your world, the more horny you'll get and the harder for you it will be... why?? Because you fucked before and you know how bad you want it... she don't.

So my tip for you:
Keep working her, take your time, don't see her all the time but keep building attraction and whenever you see her or talk to her... make sure you are FUN to be with. Kiss her, escalate, try to make her horny, if she stops you don't act like it's a big deal, but once again... don't always hang out with her, because you will KILL the sexual tension if you keep on repeating the same patern every day...so start seing her less often and start seing other girls and keep on working her out. Make her believe in her head that you are the guy that she has to fuck or she will be missing out on something.

And another thing, you have to UNDERSTAND where that girls come from, her values and that stuff... once you'll understand, every thing gets easier. Not only she'll be more comfortable but then you'll be able to decide if you're ready to be patient or not. It's very tricky. Because keeping a solid game over a long period of time without fucking the girl... I don't think it's an easy task. Keeping the sexual tension over a long period of time without losing it... it's not easy. The more you'll see her, the more you kiss, the more you touch and don't have sex... the more you eat that sexual tension... so you have to know how to handle it... which means... gotta have other girls around and see her less often.

I think that since you said she drinks and swears an stuff, she doesn't seem to have high willpower so If you keep the idea lingering in intimate moments, I reckon she will get around to it.

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I recommend you just drop it. If her value is that she doesn't want sex, find a girl that does want sex. Once you really figure out what your sexual energy is, you'll only attract girls with the same sexual energy.