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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:32 pm 
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I'm going to be honest with you: I'm 24 and I never even kissed a girl. This is really starting to nag at my self-confidence.
This Valentine's Day I decided that I want to get laid until my 25th birthday, which is in the end of March.
I've always been really focussed on my academic and my sport, so I never really "chased" girls. I'm a rather quiet guy, definitely no party animal, but I'm very driven and, as people tell me, intelligent and I know that some girls admire this and find this attractive.
Anyway, last year I had my first "date" ever. I got along really well with a housemate and I asked her for cinema, dinner etc. It was clear that she was interested in me, but I did not know how to "make a move", i.e. how to start kissing a girl etc. So we went on like 5 dates and in the end she got pissed off I never did anything and started dating someone else. The same happened with another girl a few months later.
I think my major problem here is that almost every male and female in my age has a lot more dating or sexual experience, so I don't have the confidence of doing stuff.
Now, I've read "The Game", Mystery and David D and I have a better idea what creating attraction is about. I'm living in a student town with many rather conservative, "well-behaved" students (Oxford, UK), so there is no good "training ground".
Based on these information, what can I do to achieve my target of finally "getting laid"?
Tomorrow night, I'll be on a party so maybe there I can start implementing your ideas... However, let me tell you that I'm not a good dancer unfortunately


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Sometimes reading too much can mess you up early on, because you don't fully understand how to apply the concepts. There are plenty of guys who post here asking why a girl doesn't want to hang out when theyve "negged them several times," later to realize what they were doing wasn't negging so much as insulting.

I will suggest one piece to read, and it doesn't really talk about conversations, how to dress, approaching women, etc. It hits on your main issue that you indicate in the post. Google "DiCarlo Escalation Ladder." It's free to download, you can watch videos summarizing it on youtube, and it focuses solely on how to build a physical link with a woman up to and including sex.

Here is the sparknotes version:

1. Every phase has two stages, incidental and overt. Incidental physical contact is something casual that isn't necessarily believed to have ulterior motives, while overt is usually a big sign of attraction. Go incidental first at each stage, then move to overt.

2. Start with her hands and arms. You shake her hand, high five her, etc, these are things people do every day. That's incidental. Overt would be holding her hand, or escorting her arm-in-arm.

3. The ladder basically goes arms/hands --> legs --> back/sides --> neck/face/hair --> GO FOR THE FUCKING KISS, AND GRAB HER ASS WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.

4. Don't ask. If she complies with your kino at one stage, assume she's into it and then move on to the next stage. If she is hesitant, go back a step.

5. By the time you've gone up the first few steps, a kiss won't be awkward, because you two have already been all over eachother up to that point.

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Grow some balls and go for it. Pick a girl you don't find attractive so you'll feel comfortable, and experiment; using her as a guinea pig.


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Im 23 now. I lost my virginity 4 months ago when I was 22. I know exactly how you feel because that was not long ago.

Luckily, I met this hb9 and was just being myself (conversate, smile, sense of humour)...got her number, met up easily, every about 2-3 days we'd see each other since we live in the same area. Be yourself, she asked me on the 4th/5th date about my past sexual experiences. Now, first, she knew I was interested but so was she. I always thought that my lack of experience will turn her off but boy I was wrong. The fact that I was a virgin made her more attracted and was the real turning point. When asked me if I ever did this and that I always said no, she knew I never kissed a girl before. I know its hard to make a move but what happened was after a night out she ended back at mine, she lied on my chest and by then I was comfortable with her to go for the kiss, fuck it, she was interested anyway and I would have no regrets, it was a beautiful kiss. She mentioned how she wants to "corrupt" me so then I was just playing the waiting game. She asked me to touch her boobs that night before she left. few days later on after another night out she was horny and initiated everything all the way to sex. I never knew that being a virgin is such a big turn on to a lot of girls looking back!

1. See your virginity as something that makes you different to most guys around you and is a good thing. I wish I was a virgin everyday, no lie.
2. After building enough attraction where she is comfortable with you, be honest, either way you have nothing to lose, there is a lot of girls out there who love to corrupt guys.
3. When you're comfortable yourself, trust me, a point will come where you think, fuck it, its about time, just go for it, I started kissing the cheek heading towards the lips where she turned her face and responded well.
4. Keep seeing her, let her teach you new stuff, don't raise up the topic of sex often, let her finish corrupting you. First time sex is never "amazing". I couldn't get mine up the first time. But you will feel like a king knowing that you got that far. Your confidence will change for the rest of your life.

If I were you, I would play the innocent card, after sufficient attraction tell her you're a virgin because the girls you were interested in weren't interested in you and most importantly the girls that wanted you, you weren't interested in them. Keep meeting girls. Be honest, honesty is under appreciated. I would lie about my virginity if I knew I could keep up with the lie, but I can't, that's just me, not a good liar. Good luck

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Just to expand on what Lava said, I started game at the age of 19 (I think) prior to which I think I'd kissed maybe 2 girls and never slept with one. I lost my viriginity 2 years ago at age 20, to this day it's still the only girl I've slept with HOWEVER there is a reason for that. Unlike some guys I do not just hop into bed with anyone, I've said no to a lot of girls for varying reasons, generally if there offer me to go back to theirs it's normally a girl I had no intention of laying, if it's a girl asking to come back to mine I've either not been that interested in them or had to say no due to living at home with my parents and a younger sister in the next room (before anyone comes in saying just put your foot down, it's not that simple, plus I respect the fact that my family might not want to hear their son having sex) however last month I had a strong talk with my family about this situation and they've agreed to allow it (after all, it isn't my house, it's theirs).

Despite this though I do rather well with game and whenever I've said to girls that I've said no to a lot, they actually see that as an attractive quality because it shows them you aren't just another player trying to get them into bed (even if you are).
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I know the feeling (and how unhelpful being told to man up is). My usual method to make her make the first move is a routine taken from The Book (No, not the bible, the other one).

"Hey lets get a photo."
*snap*
"Nope [insert reason here], we need a little practice. First, let's try one where we're looking happy."
*happy snap*
"Now lets try changing the emotion to sad"
*sad snap*
"And now kiss me in this one (she leans in to kiss you)"
*k-close*

Several things to note:
1) Turn your face and look at the camera after saying no. 3 and she'll kiss your cheek; she will not kiss you on the lips. To do this you need to keep looking at her.
2) If she objects, don't say anything, just point to your cheek. No girl has ever said no to a kiss on the cheek. She'll be embarrassed at her misunderstanding.
3) "On no, it didn't take the picture. We'll need to do it again."


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let's be realistic.

You've lived 24 years on this planet and never kissed a girl, now you're saying you must fuck within this year. Unless you undergo radical changes your chances are very small.

Also, if you're white guy and you have couple grand to spare, and it is really important to you, you can always go to Thailand. Girls will approach you(both normal girls and prostitutes) and all you need to do is not mess it up. Go spend there couple weeks, fuck 10-15 women, and gain some confidence.


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Im 23 now. I lost my virginity 4 months ago when I was 22. I know exactly how you feel because that was not long ago.

Luckily, I met this hb9 and was just being myself (conversate, smile, sense of humour)...got her number, met up easily, every about 2-3 days we'd see each other since we live in the same area. Be yourself, she asked me on the 4th/5th date about my past sexual experiences.
Thanks. That's a very encouraging post.
Yeah, I had a similar situation last year. I had a really good connection to an HB8. Now, I know she liked me and I definitely had feelings for her. But after we went out on so many dates and I never even tried to show her I liked her she got pissed of and later our friendship completely fell apart. Maybe I should have followed your strategy and just directly told her about my inexperience with women.
Well, unfortunately at the moment there is no girl in my life that I have such a great connection to as this girl from last year.


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Let me tell you something. Stop reading books. Stop reading this forum. What you need to do is go out and tally the most number of rejections as possible. When I say that, I don't mean be loud and obnoxious so the girl walks away from you. I mean get rejected when "making your move". Go out to some bar with your friends, chat with a girl who is preferably single for 30 seconds, then just go for the make out.

Do this to as many girls as possible. You might even be able to pull out some make outs from it. Who cares if your kissing skills are terrible. You will learn from your mistakes, trust.

The point is to show you that "making your move" isn't a big deal. Once this is achieved, you will feel a lot more comfortable making your move SMOOTHLY on women that you are interested in... like the chick you took on a date 5 times.


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Firstly you need to ask your self why your setting this goal, it seems really misplaced. Your just aiming for some milestone you think society is trying to force on you, and bending to pressure that being a virgin isn't ok. You should be making the decision yourself, not for others sake, or for this stupid belief that not being a virgin is going to fix your problems. I hadn't had sex by the age of 20, yet some of my nerdy friends had as young as 14/15, they were still nerdy at 18-20 and i was much more able to get girls than them, despite being a virgin and them not. Also i know guys who get laid a lot more than me, and are better are picking up women, a few of them also are defiantly less happy than me, in-fact one is depressed. Dont get your self worth and self-esteem from losing your virginity, your just setting yourself up for a fall, do it for the right reasons.

As for kissing a girl, really just trail and error, gaining experience, putting yourself in those situations is the key. Go out, network friends, put yourself out there.


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Also, if you're white guy and you have couple grand to spare, and it is really important to you, you can always go to Thailand. Girls will approach you(both normal girls and prostitutes) and all you need to do is not mess it up. Go spend there couple weeks, fuck 10-15 women, and gain some confidence.
Thailand? You sure those are girls? lol


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I'm going to be honest with you: I'm 24 and I never even kissed a girl. This is really starting to nag at my self-confidence.
This Valentine's Day I decided that I want to get laid until my 25th birthday, which is in the end of March.
I've always been really focussed on my academic and my sport, so I never really "chased" girls. I'm a rather quiet guy, definitely no party animal, but I'm very driven and, as people tell me, intelligent and I know that some girls admire this and find this attractive.
Anyway, last year I had my first "date" ever. I got along really well with a housemate and I asked her for cinema, dinner etc. It was clear that she was interested in me, but I did not know how to "make a move", i.e. how to start kissing a girl etc. So we went on like 5 dates and in the end she got pissed off I never did anything and started dating someone else. The same happened with another girl a few months later.
I think my major problem here is that almost every male and female in my age has a lot more dating or sexual experience, so I don't have the confidence of doing stuff.
Now, I've read "The Game", Mystery and David D and I have a better idea what creating attraction is about. I'm living in a student town with many rather conservative, "well-behaved" students (Oxford, UK), so there is no good "training ground".
Based on these information, what can I do to achieve my target of finally "getting laid"?
Tomorrow night, I'll be on a party so maybe there I can start implementing your ideas... However, let me tell you that I'm not a good dancer unfortunately
I heard Oxford and Cambridge have crazy parties. All students are the same; you have nothing to do during your day and no money, no responsibilities and everyone knows this is your chance to do anything crazy you wanted to do.

Bet oxford chicks are cute with that little accent.


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Im 21, almost 22 and also have not had sex or kissed. Let me make this abundantly clear...all my other friends have, and they all lost it to some random girl in some hook up, and they're all applauding me for sticking to my guns all these years.

Losing your virginity by age X is an arbitrary goal set by society. Don't compromise your beliefs or morals/values for someone else's benefit or for any reason at all. Stick to your guns, you'll feel better about yourself in the long-run as well.

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Also, if you're white guy and you have couple grand to spare, and it is really important to you, you can always go to Thailand. Girls will approach you(both normal girls and prostitutes) and all you need to do is not mess it up. Go spend there couple weeks, fuck 10-15 women, and gain some confidence.
Thailand? You sure those are girls? lol
after 10-15 tries, surely one of them will be a girl ;)

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to OP. Forget Thailand. Read Warped Mindless' get laid in 7 days post, apply it and keep doing it till you get laid. What I meant in my original reply is, if you keep doing hat you're doing, you'll keep getting what you're getting. You gotta start taking action. Serious action.


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Firstly you need to ask your self why your setting this goal, it seems really misplaced. Your just aiming for some milestone you think society is trying to force on you, and bending to pressure that being a virgin isn't ok.
True. But the reason why I'm setting this goal is not because of the pressure given by society but because I really finally want to "experience it". But I admit that it feels terrible when I see some of my friends who are much worse looking and probably less entertaining getting the chicks while I don't.

And I agree: I need to change something. Otherwise I will keep on getting the same results, which means no results... The key reason for my situation is probably that I have never taking any serious effort into this, so this is where I need to start.

Unfortunately the last weeks I couldn't take any action here because of work. I might try this "7 day programme" when things get a bit better for me.


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