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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:17 pm 
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Hey all, i have a question for you guys.
Im not a very good Pua yet, as i show symptoms of the anxiety syndrome.

There is this girl at the callcenter i work, and she is stunning. She also looks like she would want te be fucked hard. The problem is, i dont know how to get her in that position. Im pretty bad at any game, especially daygame. So i would want to know what would be the best things to say to her, and how should i act to a her?

I dont know her very well, spoke her a few times, but she seems interested. Ive added her on facebook after i tracked her last name, yes i am a bit of a stalker, but im a pretty hopeless pal. I hope you guys can help me out.

I might be bad at game, but i do look pretty ok, and i have quite some experience. Still i am hopeless.

Thx in advance you all!

greetz, maarten


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:23 pm 
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First of all, don't shit where you eat. I would avoid the dipping your pen in the office ink at all costs. When it comes to game, you are going to make mistakes, and it's no use putting your career on the line.

Furthermore, dwelling on her and how much you want her will keep you out of the field, out of what you should be doing–meeting new women.

Your best chance at getting with this girl is to get a lot of practice with other women first. Go out, learn the ropes, become an mPUA, meet and fuck a lot of women, and gain a reputation as the bad boy. Then, with your new perspective, go back and revisit this office chick.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:02 pm 
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Thx for you advice, rlly appreciate it. Im working on becoming a pua, but how should i be around her, in the meanwhile?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:56 am 
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you should be yourself, but trust your intincts and apply them, instead of masking them out of insecurity, stay calm and go for what you want instead of being anxious about it, if you are ever in doubt of what to do or say, tell the truth and be absolutely certain of it

if you really really really must shit where you eat and make things possibly awkward and terrible for yourself, approach her, and say this

hey, I know we don't talk much and this is random, but I think you're really cute, and I want to get to know you better, I would love to take you on a date (the more confidently you deliver this the better, just stay relaxed like it is just another day in the park, you are just asking her to pass the salt)

then see what she says, either a yes or a no, either way you have your answer

now, if she says yes to a date, your goals for the date should be

find at least 10 things you like about her,

find a few things you have in common and talk about them,

find out what she likes to do in her spare time,

flirt with her, put her in a good mood and don't straight interview her, talk and do some conversation work, then question, then talk about it, then question, if she is speaking let her talk, the more she talks about herself the better

give her a hug and a kiss on the cheek at the start of the date, if you can have a date somewhere that you can sit next to her and get close so you are touching (to make her comfortable with being close to you) that is good, and try to kiss her at some point midway through the date, or if you haven't worked up the courage at least try at the end (on the lips not the cheek), if you absolutely can't work up the courage, you best try for date 2, don't worry about making out, save that for if you are in a location that you have sex at

that is pretty much all, there is no magical way to act or be, if you experience rejection on the regular, work on your social skills in general (there is no magic pill for this, but some e-books can give you a general outline to start you out if you are socially retarded), work on your body (hit the gym), work on your style, meet new people to expand your social circle and have more social options to hang out with so you spend your time socializing more often, and improve your lifestyle, also you will only become more confident from experience and facing your fears, doing things that make you feel uncomfortable until you feel comfortable doing those things, there is no magical pill, time and effort, go out to a place that has alot of girls and start approaching and gaining some experience, if you don't know what to do or say, the only way you are going to figure that out is by taking action and learning

GOOD LUCK


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I'd suggest entourage game, where you befriend all the other girls in the office except her, and eventually she'll turn around once you give her just a little bit of attention.

The key here is that this type of tactic dosen't take much work, and albiet takes a longer time to get results, the effects are more powerful and also gives you time to hone your skills on other women.

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Thx so much for all this advice, you guys are awesome at this stuff :).

Ill try to do this, it might take a long time to find the right moment to ask her out for a date (id only do this when i feel like its the perfect situation). Ill try that entourage game in the meanwhile, and ill just be nice to her :)


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There is no perfect situation. Women won't fall into your lap, so at some point you're going to have to do something that may make you uncomfortable. I understand what you meant, you want no risk of her rejecting you. Well, there are virtually no absolute certainties in this, kid. All "waiting for the perfect moment" means is making a series of excuses as to why you wont' do anything.

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Thx so much for all this advice, you guys are awesome at this stuff :).

Ill try to do this, it might take a long time to find the right moment to ask her out for a date (id only do this when i feel like its the perfect situation). Ill try that entourage game in the meanwhile, and ill just be nice to her :)
don't get trapped into in-action, it will not make a difference, ask her out the next time you see her, or it will take you a hell of alot longer to improve your confidence, just push through it and ask


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:39 pm 
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asking it on facebook doesnt do any good, does it?

thx so much for being so helpful, it seems like you all perfectly understand what situation im in


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asking it on facebook doesnt do any good, does it?

thx so much for being so helpful, it seems like you all perfectly understand what situation im in
you can ask her out how ever you want, but you should know the more tension you can place on her the better chance of success

in person > on the phone > over text > facebook > e-mail

pick the option that makes it the hardest for her to say no, face your anxiety and fears you will feel so amazing about yourself after you were able to do it, and it will give you a reference point to look back on and you will realize, WTF I DIDN'T DIE, nothing truly terrible happens at all, it is just an illusion inside your head, words are just words


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ill keep you guys updated ;)


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