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This thread is too rotfl,i agree with Txacoli,sometimes you ego will be your worst enemy ,so that` s my advice:

In every enviroment ,business,pua,yoga,gym and so on,if you find someone better than you who`s willing to help you

1- shut your fucking mouth up
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K-Sab went honey baked HAM on skills. Seriously, after reading both of your sides, I declare Kasabi the winner.

At first I didn't understand his lingo... too over my head. I think he read where I asked him to dumb it down, b/c everything started clicking when I read his more recent posts. Lol @ "durh durrh I'm the prize".

Kasabi please don't stop writing like this. I can finally understand you.

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No hate. I still think you're a cool dude. Fast 5ive was dope.


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K-Sab went honey baked HAM on skills. Seriously, after reading both of your sides, I declare Kasabi the winner.

At first I didn't understand his lingo... too over my head. I think he read where I asked him to dumb it down, b/c everything started clicking when I read his more recent posts. Lol @ "durh durrh I'm the prize".

Kasabi please don't stop writing like this. I can finally understand you.

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No hate. I still think you're a cool dude. Fast 5ive was dope.

i declared kasabi the winner, about 5 pages back, he kept going on and on and on...i said about 5 times he was right, as i said is pua lingo and i USED THE WRONG WORDS, but i was trying to make a point, i DID NOT WANT TO JOIN A FRAT...

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ALSO I DO NOT KNOW ANY DUDE THAT IS GOOD WITH WOMEN THAT IS NOT A LEADER OR HAS A LOT OF ALPHA QUALITIES ONE WHICH IS TO LEAD..
I have to disagree with this, most naturals I know are actually the artist type, not trying to be "alpha", not trying to lead or prove anything to anybody. But their reality is so strong, they live in their own world and the girl gets a real roller-coaster ride when she steps in. I know that the "provider" type of a guy is attractive, the successful, the "leader". But the artist is just as attractive as a lover and there isn't an inch of a leader in him.

That is your experience not mine, in mine they are very sexual, very confident, they do not give a fuck attitude, and they are extremely persuasive and charming, and they lead the woman(women do what they tell them to do)...

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Why do you need to live like a rock star?

Maybe I'm crazy, but I've always had one goal in life that stayed ahead of all others: self-sufficiency. I want enough that I can take care of myself without any help, and forcing other people, be they family or taxpayers, to bear my own burden. I take a lot of pride in paying for myself, which is in direct conflict with this idea. I dont' need bottle service at bars, or a sports car, or a mansion. Don't get me wrong, I went to a casino last Saturday and had a terrific time. But I don't see the true link between pickup and a "rockstar" life.
I agree with the importance of 'self sufficiency'. My question is "HOW"?

What will you do? How will you strategize? How will you achieve self-sufficiency? Most professional careers are launched at a 'skill level'. You're hired for your ability to actually do something. A few years later, you get promoted and they wedge a few guys under you. Now it's skills + management. Few years after that, no matter what you began with, you no longer actually those 'skills', you merely manage the people to do those skills. Almost all 'higher level' work requires social/networking skills. (Learning these skills is one of the important lessons of the initial post)

The idea isn't to run around begging for freebies. The idea is to learn "VALUE". What do others value? What do you have to offer? What do they have to offer? How can a bond be created by complete strangers? Without an exchange of value, no relationship succeeds. It simply does not work. When people do not exchange 'energy', there is nothing in the relationship for them nor is there anything invested into it. In my mind, learning this is the path to 'self sufficiency'.
Kasabi...I am confused, are you arguing with me?

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ALSO I DO NOT KNOW ANY DUDE THAT IS GOOD WITH WOMEN THAT IS NOT A LEADER OR HAS A LOT OF ALPHA QUALITIES ONE WHICH IS TO LEAD..
I have to disagree with this, most naturals I know are actually the artist type, not trying to be "alpha", not trying to lead or prove anything to anybody. But their reality is so strong, they live in their own world and the girl gets a real roller-coaster ride when she steps in. I know that the "provider" type of a guy is attractive, the successful, the "leader". But the artist is just as attractive as a lover and there isn't an inch of a leader in him.

That is your experience not mine, in mine they are very sexual, very confident, they do not give a fuck attitude, and they are extremely persuasive and charming, and they lead the woman(women do what they tell them to do)...
Yes they are, still while being a poor or even bad artists :) I'm just saying it's not the leadership or alphaness that gets them there, but their frame, their reality, their choice not to comply with anybody.

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A few thoughts in no particular order:

1. If you'd like to learn leadership skills, you are in the wrong forum This is a pick up forum. This is where you learn how to disco your way into a ONS. Not giving a fuck by the way is the OPPOSITE of the behavioral traits of good leaders. Telling people to do things is the OPPOSITE of the behavioral traits of good leaders.

2. If you are not a participant in dynamic and progressive groups, you already have tendencies and habits that keep you from participating. Correcting this takes A LOT of fucking work. Identify your weaknesses. . . accept them . . . work on them.

3. All things being equal, it's far better to be intelligent than to be a moron. Read, write, brush up on your communication skills. It doesn't take much work.

4. Value = Perceived Benefits/ Price(cost)

a. You might not quantify it but this equation goes on in your head all day long. You might get a cup of coffee because the perceived benefit is GREATER than the cost; Value > 1. (If the cup of coffee cost you $50, you might not get it because in that case, Value < 1.

b. ^This is a simple way to explain it but essentially, you walk around all day long both subconsciously and consciously contemplating this equation. Should I take x street or y street? Should I have coffee with my boss or my brother? Should mow the lawn or should I go fishing?

c. A short discussion is all it takes to figure out another's value equation habits. In the initial post, the author offered 'pick up assistance' in return for a place to stay. The hosts quantified benefits(picking up women) to be far greater than the costs (letting some dude sleep a their place) = High value.

d. If you can figure ^this out, then you will realize that boasting non-existing, non-quantifiable qualities for yourself will do nothing for you. On the other hand, it's great to showcase your talents, back it up, demonstrate the importance of this talent for the progression of the group, and freely offer it.

5. ^All of these things are habits. You'll see that certain people suck at it. I don't know skills nor do I care enough to insult him or praise him. All I can tell you is that he has the repulsive habits of PUSHING groups away. This is why he works for himself, by himself, hangs out by himself, and hits on lonely married chicks. None of this is good or bad. If this is what you want out of life, this is what you do. If you want to INCREASE your social/work network however, you'll want to do the opposite what he has demonstrated here. It's as simple as that.


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A few thoughts in no particular order:

1. If you'd like to learn leadership skills, you are in the wrong forum This is a pick up forum. This is where you learn how to disco your way into a ONS. Not giving a fuck by the way is the OPPOSITE of the behavioral traits of good leaders. Telling people to do things is the OPPOSITE of the behavioral traits of good leaders.

2. If you are not a participant in dynamic and progressive groups, you already have tendencies and habits that keep you from participating. Correcting this takes A LOT of fucking work. Identify your weaknesses. . . accept them . . . work on them.

3. All things being equal, it's far better to be intelligent than to be a moron. Read, write, brush up on your communication skills. It doesn't take much work.

4. Value = Perceived Benefits/ Price(cost)

a. You might not quantify it but this equation goes on in your head all day long. You might get a cup of coffee because the perceived benefit is GREATER than the cost; Value > 1. (If the cup of coffee cost you $50, you might not get it because in that case, Value < 1.

b. ^This is a simple way to explain it but essentially, you walk around all day long both subconsciously and consciously contemplating this equation. Should I take x street or y street? Should I have coffee with my boss or my brother? Should mow the lawn or should I go fishing?

c. A short discussion is all it takes to figure out another's value equation habits. In the initial post, the author offered 'pick up assistance' in return for a place to stay. The hosts quantified benefits(picking up women) to be far greater than the costs (letting some dude sleep a their place) = High value.

d. If you can figure ^this out, then you will realize that boasting non-existing, non-quantifiable qualities for yourself will do nothing for you. On the other hand, it's great to showcase your talents, back it up, demonstrate the importance of this talent for the progression of the group, and freely offer it.

5. ^All of these things are habits. You'll see that certain people suck at it. I don't know skills nor do I care enough to insult him or praise him. All I can tell you is that he has the repulsive habits of PUSHING groups away. This is why he works for himself, by himself, hangs out by himself, and hits on lonely married chicks. None of this is good or bad. If this is what you want out of life, this is what you do. If you want to INCREASE your social/work network however, you'll want to do the opposite what he has demonstrated here. It's as simple as that.

@KASABI nice and simple,point taken...


on a side note: i do believe @skills360 'got it' in the start of this argument..
he basicaly said so.

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@SKILLS360: where do you live man? what kind of social circles are you in..etc

if you dont mind me asking..i'm just trying to be aware of cultural influance on game.

you really dont have to answer,but i'm intrigued.

(BTW:the massage thing got me from blue balls to 69 SO many times... :twisted: )

@KASABI: if you dont care,can you answer these too?


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@SKILLS360: where do you live man? what kind of social circles are you in..etc

if you dont mind me asking..i'm just trying to be aware of cultural influance on game.

you really dont have to answer,but i'm intrigued.

(BTW:the massage thing got me from blue balls to 69 SO many times... :twisted: )

@KASABI: if you dont care,can you answer these too?


thanks.
Californication i am scare to answer, since kasabi, will fuck with my shit, i live in south florida, i came from a Latin country with a heavy horrible latin accent, i did day game, then night game(as a natural, basically go to a girl and say hey sup are you here waiting for your boyfriend to pick you up, or some clever situational question that will demand an answer to the boyfriend question, if she was interested she would say she does not have a boyfriend and i would ask for the beeper or house number, not cell phones back then), then i accidentally learn club game, while doing club game and being with different hbs, i try not to fuck it up and turn them off with my horrible latin accident, so i discover what 60 yoc and gunwitch discover way after me since i have been doing it for more than 15 years to shut the fuck up and escalate, my social circle is hard to explain, i know everybody at clubs men and women, but i choose for logistics and my game, to game ALONE, i believe gaming alone has many many advantages...I just do club game...Hope that answers your question, i join the community after my gf show me the game as a joke, then got curious about the forums and since i was on sinn mailer list, join this forum, while in this forum i notice nobody had any idea of dance club game, and the gurus like david d, 60 yoc, mystery say is a trap or some stupid shit like that, then reading couple of club posts i notice nobody new what the fuck they were talking about, i decided to write a book, soon to come out... :D

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A few thoughts in no particular order:

1. If you'd like to learn leadership skills, you are in the wrong forum This is a pick up forum. This is where you learn how to disco your way into a ONS. Not giving a fuck by the way is the OPPOSITE of the behavioral traits of good leaders. Telling people to do things is the OPPOSITE of the behavioral traits of good leaders.

2. If you are not a participant in dynamic and progressive groups, you already have tendencies and habits that keep you from participating. Correcting this takes A LOT of fucking work. Identify your weaknesses. . . accept them . . . work on them.

3. All things being equal, it's far better to be intelligent than to be a moron. Read, write, brush up on your communication skills. It doesn't take much work.

4. Value = Perceived Benefits/ Price(cost)

a. You might not quantify it but this equation goes on in your head all day long. You might get a cup of coffee because the perceived benefit is GREATER than the cost; Value > 1. (If the cup of coffee cost you $50, you might not get it because in that case, Value < 1.

b. ^This is a simple way to explain it but essentially, you walk around all day long both subconsciously and consciously contemplating this equation. Should I take x street or y street? Should I have coffee with my boss or my brother? Should mow the lawn or should I go fishing?

c. A short discussion is all it takes to figure out another's value equation habits. In the initial post, the author offered 'pick up assistance' in return for a place to stay. The hosts quantified benefits(picking up women) to be far greater than the costs (letting some dude sleep a their place) = High value.

d. If you can figure ^this out, then you will realize that boasting non-existing, non-quantifiable qualities for yourself will do nothing for you. On the other hand, it's great to showcase your talents, back it up, demonstrate the importance of this talent for the progression of the group, and freely offer it.

5. ^All of these things are habits. You'll see that certain people suck at it. I don't know skills nor do I care enough to insult him or praise him. All I can tell you is that he has the repulsive habits of PUSHING groups away. This is why he works for himself, by himself, hangs out by himself, and hits on lonely married chicks. None of this is good or bad. If this is what you want out of life, this is what you do. If you want to INCREASE your social/work network however, you'll want to do the opposite what he has demonstrated here. It's as simple as that.


you are hilarious... Kasabi thanks for investigating my life you are a psycho, but at least get it right... damm dude! you are scary i will give you kids my advise, it will not be so elocuent as kasabi...

#1.- Leadership: is good to be a leader in a sense not to be a pussy around women and be decisive, or so you do not want to be a follower, a lot of follower end up in gangs, doing drugs, in fraternities( i kow a lot of people that are alcoholics due to fraternities), cigarretes habits etc...

#2.- is ok to disagree, and not like somebody as an individual, still always love them as a person, hate is not good do not hate, people when you hate, the other person has won, love you kasabi(actually i do not dislike the dude, i really believe the dude has issues)

#3.- Fuck people determining how do you want to live your life, live your life how it pleases you, you only need to please yourself(oh shit kasabi read my signature please)


#4.- Learn how to pick and choose your fights, or try to avoid fighting, if you win the fight you lose anyways... Bullying specially by a grown ass man, is silly,stupid,childist...


#5.- yes be self employeed, you are either making yourself rich, or making someone else rich...

#6.- 90% of your happiness is choosing the right partner..

#7.- fuck all that value shit, learn how to SELL! everything is selling... fuck value, what makes you different than the 50 other dudes... In biz improve an existing product by 10% and BE ABLE TO SELL IT... Sells is the shit, and is the closest profession to pua...On the other hand i think kasabi is a computer dude, closest profession to afc...Go to a computer college how many intellectual nerds, or computer and math dudes are getting laid...See for yourself...


Finally, see kasabi, i can do your pick up game, your methood, whatever, actually teach me your methood, and i will go out try it and make a field report, seriously i welcome the challenge, and i will get out of my confort zone, since i basically all i like to do is club game...


now you can and you will never be able to do what i do, which is to met a girl and in within minutes have her tongue down my throat without even saying a word, then, i have the ability to transform women to the way i want them to be, you in a million year will never possess that skill, and then are ready kasabi, PIMP THEM, not only that having a bunch of dudes and women following you around at clubs like a movie start, see dude i can do what you do, but you can not do what i do, other than that keep putting your intellectual crap, i love it, this for me amoging your little intellectual as is a lot of fun, and i am just getting warmed up, i am just trying to be respectful to californication, but lets go at this come on, dude... i ain't sexaddict i actually love this shit... by the way did you copy down the angry dude theory, make sure you did...

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Skills lets see a video of your club game


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Skills lets see a video of your club game

Tygamasty show me your wallet... i take pay pal, then we can talk, just kidding, soon working on it....

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Tygamasty show me your wallet... i take pay pal, then we can talk, just kidding, soon working on it....
You can't even spell my name right and you wanna do business with me! Lmao... It' must be that latino accent. :P

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Californication i am scare to answer, since kasabi, will fuck with my shit, i live in south florida, i came from a Latin country with a heavy horrible latin accent, i did day game, then night game(as a natural, basically go to a girl and say hey sup are you here waiting for your boyfriend to pick you up, or some clever situational question that will demand an answer to the boyfriend question, if she was interested she would say she does not have a boyfriend and i would ask for the beeper or house number, not cell phones back then), then i accidentally learn club game, while doing club game and being with different hbs, i try not to fuck it up and turn them off with my horrible latin accident, so i discover what 60 yoc and gunwitch discover way after me since i have been doing it for more than 15 years to shut the fuck up and escalate, my social circle is hard to explain, i know everybody at clubs men and women, but i choose for logistics and my game, to game ALONE, i believe gaming alone has many many advantages...I just do club game...Hope that answers your question, i join the community after my gf show me the game as a joke, then got curious about the forums and since i was on sinn mailer list, join this forum, while in this forum i notice nobody had any idea of dance club game, and the gurus like david d, 60 yoc, mystery say is a trap or some stupid shit like that, then reading couple of club posts i notice nobody new what the fuck they were talking about, i decided to write a book, soon to come out... :D


" i am scare to answer, since kasabi, will fuck with my shit." LOL :lol: ok..

"while doing club game and being with different hbs, i try not to fuck it up and turn them off with my horrible latin accident" haha..but i thought the ladies like that accent...? :P


" i choose for logistics and my game, to game ALONE, i believe gaming alone has many many advantages..." awesome! i try to game alone ALWAYS...you learn so much more,plus it's fun to see where you can end up(say,naked with only underwear in some unknown house,runing from the window when you hear some dudes voice..)after entering a club alone..


"i decided to write a book, soon to come out... :D"

:arrow: let me know when it's out man!

@SKILLS360: thanks man,appreciate it 8)

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