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GOALS UPDATE


So my goal was to have 4 number closes in 4 weeks..I got 0. This is the first month that I actually hadnt close for quite a time. I also changed a LOT my style and the way I see pick up. I guess it's going to take some time to adapt to my new beliefs and point of view. I'm not reading any material though..I almost finished the attraction code and that alone is the only "guide" that I will use from now on. The mindsets and the information in that book is gold in my opinion anyone tired of canned shit should read that book.

My goals now are not going to be to make closes. Each field day/night I will write on a piece of paper 3 things that I want to work on during that specific day/night. I'm starting more and more to see that pick-up is a lot about improving and working on yourself. Getting girls is just a result of your work and you enjoying the presence of women.

Although I didn't close in cold-approaches..I have options in my life. I have several girls who I know are interested in me a lot..but I'm still working on my model right now..she's much more of a challenge even if she shows a lot of interest in me..the result should be better than the other chicks haha :wink:

I also admit that my biggest sticking point is pulling the trigger - execution. When I look back at my life I could've closed a lot of girls who were just waiting for me to make a small move but I was letting fear of rejection getting in my head. I changed a lot that element! But still...I think it's the only thing that holds me back from having great skill. I seriously believe if I fix this pulling the trigger thing..my game will increase as fuck. The only thing that I can do to work on it is to actually stop talking about pulling the trigger and do it. Lately, I've been doing that a lot each time I hesitate..so I'm on a good path :) I belive in myself and I'm keeping up the hard work! Peace out guys!

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That book is gold, its also a good read, I dont know if he personally wrote it, but the writer has a great way of writing, it really is great thanks for leading me to it.

I will definitely try this 3 goals on paper thing. Do you think its better to actually make it on paper and like a shopping list and when I complete it I check it off.

Also what would go on this list I am confused? You say your not going to put close as a goal, so what would be a goal.

Also any tips on night game, I am getting more into it and want to get better. I have no problem conversing, more or less isolating from a group and/or getting a girl to dance. At times I spark ingenuity and just grab and take her and it works, other times I will be on the dance floor see a chick and tell her to dance with me it works 50% of the time. So what's your opinion on the matter?

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Raphael It's not really 3 goals I expressed my self wrong. It's more of "3 things to work on" during that night/day. For example in the upcoming day field, these are my 3 things that I want to work on

- Work on transitioning after the opener

- Stay in set at least 1 minute

- Have a higher voice tonality

You write them down on a piece of paper and put it in your pocket. In field you look at it and you remember what are you working on today. It's taking small steps in becoming better. You'll see later on in the attraction code that what you focus your attention on is really important. Knowing that you have a problem transitionning and you writing it down as a goal, your mind is going to focus on this specific element when you're in a set. That puts all your attention on tranisitionning and you will not be distracted by other factors.

Bro night game one of my really good tips is this. When a girl is speaking say "What?? Didn't heard you" When you say that get really close (dont lean in) and put your ear near her mouth so that she gets the message to speak in your ear. At the same time make a small kino and see her response to it. If she kinos you back it's good. After she tells you something you respond the same. Go to her ear by making kino and say something to her. This allows you to get intimate really fast. For the dancefloor game..I dont know before I got in pick up was doing only dancefloor game. If the girl is attracted to you she will dance if not no lol I would just go and say: Come dance with me or just go and mention for her to make a spin. Once she made the spin just dance with her..hope this helped!

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Raphael It's not really 3 goals I expressed my self wrong. It's more of "3 things to work on" during that night/day. For example in the upcoming day field, these are my 3 things that I want to work on

- Work on transitioning after the opener

- Stay in set at least 1 minute

- Have a higher voice tonality

You write them down on a piece of paper and put it in your pocket. In field you look at it and you remember what are you working on today. It's taking small steps in becoming better. You'll see later on in the attraction code that what you focus your attention on is really important. Knowing that you have a problem transitionning and you writing it down as a goal, your mind is going to focus on this specific element when you're in a set. That puts all your attention on tranisitionning and you will not be distracted by other factors.

Bro night game one of my really good tips is this. When a girl is speaking say "What?? Didn't heard you" When you say that get really close (dont lean in) and put your ear near her mouth so that she gets the message to speak in your ear. At the same time make a small kino and see her response to it. If she kinos you back it's good. After she tells you something you respond the same. Go to her ear by making kino and say something to her. This allows you to get intimate really fast. For the dancefloor game..I dont know before I got in pick up was doing only dancefloor game. If the girl is attracted to you she will dance if not no lol I would just go and say: Come dance with me or just go and mention for her to make a spin. Once she made the spin just dance with her..hope this helped!
Everything helps :P I will try the notes thing for sure...

I naturally am assertive and physical in night game (the bring them closer and ear to mouth thing.) Unless its a large set I dont think I have ever not done it. Will try the dancing thing, when you say motion to spin, do you mean take her hand and spin her, or twirl your finger?

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NEW HB


Update! I wake up this morning with a text from this HB that I closed a while ago..I flaked on her because at our date I didn't break enough rapport I thought I got in the LJBF zone so I was like fuck that. She invited me to her appartment after our date though but logistics got in the way..long story short she texted me if I'm alive. After 5 min of texting she says she wants to make my life happier and that we should see eachother so she can make me "relax" in order to study better.. 8) In my book that's opening the door to a nice fuck close. Anyway I set up a date with her for the next week! This weekend I'm inviting HB model out..I love having options 8)

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APPROACH ANXIETY


You have Fear of Approach? This is 1min 36 s of footage you should watch

http://www.wimp.com/nofear/

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Date: 18 february 2012

Members: Valentyn, Froggy & Seven.Mtl

Location: Many clubs


WHAT A NIGHT

Wow..just came back from a fucking gold night! I never felt so good after a sarging night in my entire fields. Today I was seeing just so clear everything...and the most important..I didn't even thought that I could be this calm, relaxed and colected when talking to a woman I just met. I'm actually speecheless...don't know what to say. All my openers hooked as fuck! Didnt got rejected at all...didnt use one canned line opener..fucking great!

The night starts out by this guy wanting to meet me so I take him kind of my student. We chill at Starbucks for a while then we get out in the street to do some warm-up approaches. Me and Froggy started approaching every girl on the street without even 1 sec of hesitation. I was actually running after good looking girls in the streets if they were going in another direction. Just that alone...in the street..for me it was such a big deal I was glad I just didnt give a fuck about the response I got. We get in multiple clubs, see a big fight outside between the bouncer who actually throws a guy with his head on the brick stairs. The guy started shaking I thought he was going straight to the hospital but it turned out he got up pretty fast.

Now basically we did a lottt of stuff. Big props to Froggy!! Wow he Number Closed a fucking hot girl with 2 black guys at her table!! Really fucking impressive man..great kino great job I saw it all. I approach this mature HB she starts to feel me really fast I see IOI's so I take a chair and invite myself to sit down with her. We start talking and I start Sexually escalating really fast..the amount of great game I ran on her was fucking huge so I forgot the most of the interaction. It was for like 20min. So after I sit down I start throwing different hoops at her to see her level of compliance...it was realllyy bigg. After..maybe 10minutes of some solid attraction material (qualification+kino) She then tells me that the country from where I'm from must be really nice if it has so many good looking guys like me. That was the point where I just started showing interest, after she showed her towards me. I started a big hoop of qualification with: "What makes you so special that would want me to get to know you?" She didnt even hesitated and qualified for a long time. Now at this moment i ask myself: wtf do I do...do I nc?? kc?? I find out that she's 30 years old! (this bar was filled with plenty of milfs). I'm like..wow is this really happening?? This 30 yeard old chick is interested in me? Never thought that would be possible before this. So she says I'm 22 and that I'm young bla bla I change subject. Now when I'm debating what to do her fat friend comes in and yeah we make introductions but the fat bird says they got to leave now! So I'm like "ok listen you're really cool give me your number we should hang out". Wrong line Valentyn..she said no she likes me but I'm too young and she just cant give me her number. Iwas like fuck..she even had her legs pressed against mine the moment I started escalating. Next time..I'm going for the kiss not the number..bad idea!

There's like a 2 set of girls near me and I just open with: "Hey what are you guys celebrating?" I was having higher energy and they loved it got them hooked in about 10 sec..the next thing you know we're shaking hands and having introductions made. I dont really remember what I said because it was 100% natural and made on the spot...but it was really good game. I was capable of entertaining both girls in a really noisy club and made them smile each time I talked. I just had a great time

I did other things too but I think those are my main interactions. I've seriously never felt this way before when going in field it's such a great feeling!! A feeling of dominance. Relaxed...comfortable...and not hitting on women..but actually talking to them as they are human beings. Next week I'm also closing my HB model..stay tuned!! Peace out everybody!

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What a night indeed. I was anxious about meeting Valentyn and Froggy, so I did a quick stop in Brutopia before meeting them for an irish car bomb and lost my toque there :))

We got out in the street after Starbucks and these guys started approaching left and right like machines. I had never done it before but after seeing how "easy" it seemed for them, I swallowed my anxiety and tried opening a couple of chicks myself.

Froggy's nc in Thursdays was INCREDIBLE. This guy deserves a medal. He jumped into a 3-set with two huge black dudes and a HB7-8 and 5 minutes after he was already holding her around.

After seeing this, I got amped up and started opening left and right. A bit shy at the beginning ... I keep getting tips from Valentyn and Froggy: "speak louder. more kino. keep your drink down. shorter openers" ... and it's starting to work. Two hours into it and I can pretty much cross the social hook point of any set I'm opening (though I'm still nervous and don't open any sets with more than 1 guy in them).

All in all:
* opened around 30 sets in one night hanging with these guys, they're awesome, which is more than three times the sets I managed to open by myself the night before and a personal record of mine;

* got a facebook from a HB7 after approaching her three times on the dance floor. She seemed to really be into me, she kept asking to stay longer and talk/dance ... when I told her I'm bouncing with my friends and she's welcome to tag along (just to see her reaction), she was actually considering ditching her friends. I don't know why I didn't get a number instead, I need to analyze this more. At least with her facebook, I'll get to see how she looks in bikini before I meet her again :))

* could have gotten a lay from a cougar. I approached her by mistake (it seemed like she was with Valentyn target so I was trying to keep her busy) and we spoke for 15-20 minutes, time in which she explained that she's a shaman, she specializes in massages and she could help me release my inner shaman if I wanted, all while pressing her boobs against me and petting my hair and shit. Quite aggressive, but I guess this is the way cougars are. If she wasn't so old I would've totally released "my inner shaman" :)), but I decided to just high-five her and thank her for the conversation;

* had a black HB6-7 really interested in me. She actually opened me ... we flirted for a while and she was actually applying kino on me! She took a couple of drags from my e-cig after which she made me promise I'll still be there in two minutes after she says hi to a friend. I bounced ... too bad, I think I should've waited.


Funny facts:
@Valentyn when the HB7 gave me her facebook, on the same note I had written the motivational line you told me in Starbucks: "This is just for the skill" :))) I'm curious if she saw it.

@Froggy at some point I was in a set, you pass by and whisper "more kino". I start applying kino like crazy, but since the place was so loud, I started getting second doubts: "what if I misunderstood the guy and this is not what he said?" I paralyzed and left the set laughing :))

Anyways, it was really cool meeting you guys, I had a blast. Let's keep in touch and hope to do this again in the near future.


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Hey bro I'm glad we pushed you to do your thing. Although..I guess you realized how dedicated me and Froggy are. We are here to work on ourselves to improving our lifestyle and becoming better persons and we do not tolerate excuses. You were kind of my student yesterday, because you're new to this and I'm glad my demonstrations in front of you showed you how to approach. You also saw me breaking down how bad were the 2 guys hitting on that girl near the bar. Although I dont have 1000 approaches under my belt..I understand reallly fucking well the dynamics that take place between a man and a woman. However. Because me and Froggy were somehow your "coaches" yesterday, you saw that we didn't put a single drop of alchohol in our bodies. I dont know about you, but when I'm working I don't get drunk. Entertaining girls and spreding love to them is my part time job and event though 1 drink is not bad..I'm not letting anything mess with my state of mind. I will say this. Next time..if you want to learn from us and hang out with us, you don't drink. You drank way too much dude and I respect that..but don't rely on this fake crutch to just TALK to a girl. One drink it's allright. But yesterday, it was too much. I'm glad you closed..but I have to take points from you because it didnt came from you...your confidence came from something that is not in you. Therefore, next time you come with us..you reduce your drinking..that's if you want to learn how to game girs from us. Glad meeting you and take care!

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:))) true, I did have quite a few scotches there. It helps me get rid of anxiety and puts me into a talkative state. I have no clue how you guys pull it without any alcohol and I can't promise I'll just drink water next time, but I'll promise not to have a drink in every bar we walk in.


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Damn good night bro, I really need to sarge with you, you would be a great mentor, you got good at night game. I can't wait till I come up sometime soon and just practice.

I am going down to florida, I was wondering, what advice you got for me. I mean like real solid advice. I want to bring girls home left and right.

Is there anyway you can go out and just record a conversation so I can hear??? I want to see how long you stay in each "stage" I want to get mint at this stuff. I think you would be a great person to model after now that your getting into natural game (what I want). Either PM me or just post here cause I really am interested.

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Get your wing to record an in-field video please :)

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Damn good night bro, I really need to sarge with you, you would be a great mentor, you got good at night game. I can't wait till I come up sometime soon and just practice.

I am going down to florida, I was wondering, what advice you got for me. I mean like real solid advice. I want to bring girls home left and right.

Is there anyway you can go out and just record a conversation so I can hear??? I want to see how long you stay in each "stage" I want to get mint at this stuff. I think you would be a great person to model after now that your getting into natural game (what I want). Either PM me or just post here cause I really am interested.
If you have something to reply to what I'm about to say..just PM me. What I'm about to say is to all guys who are reading and who want to get good at this. Stop thinking that this skill gets aquired in short-term..you have to look at long-term. Raphael, in long-term you will pull girls left and right but you just asking me give me solid advice on how to pull girls all the time is not a good question. There is no magic pill..please guys stop thinking there is a method or some shit that one day you wake up with women jumping in your bed. You have to know the fundamentals and work your way up. There is no "stages" that I go during a pick up. In sets, I dont think about anything but I have the big concepts implemented in my brain. I know that at a certain time I have to qualify..I have to not miss the opportunities to kino..I must calibrate my responses to her reactions..breaking rapport..etc. I do not have a step by step guide. The game is played in your mind! If you have a non seeking approval behavior and instad of getting a number..you focus on getting to actually know the girl..suddenly all the pieces start to fall perfectly together. The attraction code teaches how to think in terms of attracting women..read and put to practice the things that VinDicarlo teaches. If you want to pull girls from left to right you need a lot of practice and long term you will do that. But I just cant give you a magic pill with all the answers in it..it doesnt exist. You learn about the concepts and apply them simple as that. The more you approach, the more you increase your % of closing.

I'm currently trying to figure a way out so I can record a conversation I have during some street game. This wednsday I'm going to do 2 hours of street game, so I will maybe record some footage..hope I helped and take care!

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Damn good night bro, I really need to sarge with you, you would be a great mentor, you got good at night game. I can't wait till I come up sometime soon and just practice.

I am going down to florida, I was wondering, what advice you got for me. I mean like real solid advice. I want to bring girls home left and right.

Is there anyway you can go out and just record a conversation so I can hear??? I want to see how long you stay in each "stage" I want to get mint at this stuff. I think you would be a great person to model after now that your getting into natural game (what I want). Either PM me or just post here cause I really am interested.
If you have something to reply to what I'm about to say..just PM me. What I'm about to say is to all guys who are reading and who want to get good at this. Stop thinking that this skill gets aquired in short-term..you have to look at long-term. Raphael, in long-term you will pull girls left and right but you just asking me give me solid advice on how to pull girls all the time is not a good question. There is no magic pill..please guys stop thinking there is a method or some shit that one day you wake up with women jumping in your bed. You have to know the fundamentals and work your way up. There is no "stages" that I go during a pick up. In sets, I dont think about anything but I have the big concepts implemented in my brain. I know that at a certain time I have to qualify..I have to not miss the opportunities to kino..I must calibrate my responses to her reactions..breaking rapport..etc. I do not have a step by step guide. The game is played in your mind! If you have a non seeking approval behavior and instad of getting a number..you focus on getting to actually know the girl..suddenly all the pieces start to fall perfectly together. The attraction code teaches how to think in terms of attracting women..read and put to practice the things that VinDicarlo teaches. If you want to pull girls from left to right you need a lot of practice and long term you will do that. But I just cant give you a magic pill with all the answers in it..it doesnt exist. You learn about the concepts and apply them simple as that. The more you approach, the more you increase your % of closing.

I'm currently trying to figure a way out so I can record a conversation I have during some street game. This wednsday I'm going to do 2 hours of street game, so I will maybe record some footage..hope I helped and take care!
Just from the way you write, I can see that you clearly improved a lot in the last couple of months. It seems to me that you are starting to develop your own method from your personal experience, PU is becoming natural to you, which is great and I am really glad you are there.

Now, to all the guys who have the goal of pulling a ton of girls every night. May I ask you why?

Do you think you will be a happier person if you were fucking a new girl every night?

In my opinion, being able to pull amazing girls every single night is a skill that would take YEARS to develop. Thing is, once you would be at that stage, you would get bored of it after a couple of weeks/month.

I don't see the true value of picking up new girls every night if you don't actually get to know them for real. At one point, you guys will need more than only sexual pleasure.

What I'm trying to say is that pulling new girls every night won't make you happier. At one point, you will feel the need to have a girlfriend and once you fall for that girl, you will forget (or at least, not apply) almost everything you learned from pick up.

Personally, my goal from pick up is to develop some skills with girls and having fun with them before I find a girl that I am genuinely interested in. And when that day will come, I will be ready to game her with the skills I developed.

Anyways, you guys should watch the movie "Ghosts of girlfriend's past"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0821640/

This is a great movie, with some pick up stuff and you'll understand what I'm trying to say once you've watched that movie.

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I dont want to have a new girl every night (this is to answer matt's question) but I want to be able to go into a club meet a girl and have a good time, get to know her, dance to the music, and so fourth. I only go clubbing once a week at most. So why not get a girl once a week?

As for answering my quesiton (with no magic pill) you gave me the answer I was looking for, its just mindset. Your magic pill is conscious awareness, so I will try and use that.

As for getting to know the girl, you can't just enter and say hi I want to be ur friend. I mean I haven't tried, but most will get weirded out, you have to game them for a bit and then get to know them and befriend them and such.

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