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Playing any instrument is a plus, personally I've been playing guitar around 7/8 years, as well as playing some piano, bass and drums. However in order to learn an instrument properly, you need to seriously want to do it. It has to be for you, no-one else otherwise you'll never actually get anywhere with it. One thing I will say about music is that once you learn one instrument, if you can learn some basic music theory aswell, you can apply that to any instrument and in theory you can play just about anything! (For example the guy who signed Oasis came to my college a few months ago and I wanted to be part of the band that was going to be performing whilst he was taking a tour of the college, I taught myself to play 3 songs on an organ in half an hour before he arrived because of music theory)

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First of all you have a poor attitude and mindset. If you are playing to " look cool " I can almost guarantee you that you will not have the level of dedication that it takes. I am holding my guitar in my lap as I type this and I have been playing for 10+ years and I play at least 2 hours a day and I have had many 6+ hour sessions. Only now am I beginning to grasp that there are more things that I don't know than what I do know.

This whole attitude of worrying whether you will be good in 6 months. Let me save you hours and hours of time and possibly money. You will not be anything impressive in this time. It really is something that takes a long time. You will be able to get some basic technique down and to copy cat someone else's work and trick other people who don't know anything into thinking that you know what you are doing, but most real players will be able to see right through it.

Let me ask you a question. If someone draws something through tracing someone else's work or using a paint by number considered " good " ? As you step into the world of music you will quickly find out that what seems hard, things such as technique, is actually the easiest part. What separates good players from people that don't know what they are doing is being able to create something that people actually want to listen to that is your own work. And i'm sorry my friend but this is going to take way longer than you may be willing to put into it.

When you see a good guitar player you get to see the finished result but few people understand the level of dedication and mind numbing practice it takes repeating the same licks until your fingers hurt to get to that level. I know its not what you want to hear but Its the truth.


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ya doodle u can be good at music but u dont have a right to go that much far about my personality.


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ya doodle u can be good at music but u dont have a right to go that much far about my personality.
of course I do...

I have been playing for a long time. I have seen many many people who think they want to play guitar and when they find out that its like everything in life that requires serious effort then most of them quit. You wanted advice I have been playing for a long time and you may not particularly like it but that doesn't make it any less true.

Forget about it being music, anything you do in life if you aren't 100 percent committed you are most likely going to quit. Its nothing personal that's just the way it is. Passion and dedication are essential to even the most modest amounts of success. But hey man if you think you can coast through it and be a good player with halfway wanting to do it just to look cool then more power to you.


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Ya the one u ordered is good enough.i think ur right guitar suits me better but i should start with acoustic guitar and maybe move up to the electro later.So i can learn using guitar very well on acoustic and since its also cheaper than electro, it might be better for a beginner me.
I think learning guitar is not that much easy.Can i be really good at it in 5-6 months or does it require more time and effort to be good at?
i started with electric, found it way easier and enjoyable. Been playing 18 years now, and plan to buy my first acoustic shortly.


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So its okay to start with electro? im really beginner on playing music and wanted to learn music info very well too.


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I have been playing for a long time. I have seen many many people who think they want to play guitar and when they find out that its like everything in life that requires serious effort then most of them quit. You wanted advice I have been playing for a long time and you may not particularly like it but that doesn't make it any less true.

Forget about it being music, anything you do in life if you aren't 100 percent committed you are most likely going to quit. Its nothing personal that's just the way it is. Passion and dedication are essential to even the most modest amounts of success. But hey man if you think you can coast through it and be a good player with halfway wanting to do it just to look cool then more power to you.
You're right, but you're making passion seem like much more serious business than it is. (I am transposing my experience in art over to music. Passion is the same concept either way)

As long as playing music is more fun for you than playing videogames, sitting around on the internet, or any other useless activity, you will choose to spend more time making music.

Music has to be #1 way to have fun, if you want to be great. The fun comes first, the greatness comes second (or 100th, depending on how you see things)


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You are assuming that more time playing = better playing. Most of the elite level players realize that there is worlds of difference in playing guitar and practicing guitar and miles of difference in quantity of practice time vs quality practice time. And yes, this means stuff that is boring like playing with a metronome, running through scales, chord progressions etc. Believe me when I say this. If you allow yourself to doodle on the guitar and don't take it seriously you just end up getting nowhere. Even if you love to do it what happens is you stay in your comfort zone as a player and you keep playing things that are fun, in other words easy for you, and you rarely go beyond that.

Guitar playing is not one of those hobbies where you can just kick back and have fun with it and hope everything comes to you. If you aren't actively training your ear, improving your chops or working on finger strength then you don't progress. Yeah it sucks but its true.


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Guitar playing is not one of those hobbies where you can just kick back and have fun with it and hope everything comes to you.
This is true to an extent. To begin with you have to take it seriously yes because otherwise you won't learn anything at all, however some people aren't out to be the greatest in the world, or even in their street, some people do just want to know some basic chords etc to just have a bit of fun with when they are bored. I understand where you are coming from because I am also a person that is constantly striving to improve my techinque/theory/ear etc and am currently studying music in college.

That being said however if someone wants to learn an instrument it should always be encouraged if it's something the person wants to do for themself, if they only want to learn a little that's just as fine as if they wanted to be the best, as long as it's for themself though.
Besides if you aren't having fun with it, why do it at all?

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Guitar playing is not one of those hobbies where you can just kick back and have fun with it and hope everything comes to you. If you aren't actively training your ear, improving your chops or working on finger strength then you don't progress. Yeah it sucks but its true.
I recognize that. Certainly in playing piano I've spent the vast majority of my time so far (only 3 weeks) playing scales to a metronome. But the reason I'm doing that is so that I can lay the foundation for improvising months or years down the line. Just because they're foundation skills doesn't mean they can't be fun.

I personally don't think that being bad at playing an instrument is fun. Sitting around thumping out shitty songs and making up shitty melodies doesn't appeal to me. But I see that there's a huge potential to have fun in the future, so I have fun doing the things that will take me there.

But you're right. Not everyone thinks like me. Some people WILL have to grind through those foundation basics in order to get to more advanced, more fun pieces. You make very good points.


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Ya the one u ordered is good enough.i think ur right guitar suits me better but i should start with acoustic guitar and maybe move up to the electro later.So i can learn using guitar very well on acoustic and since its also cheaper than electro, it might be better for a beginner me.
I think learning guitar is not that much easy.Can i be really good at it in 5-6 months or does it require more time and effort to be good at?
i started with electric, found it way easier and enjoyable. Been playing 18 years now, and plan to buy my first acoustic shortly.
Definitely. Learn which ever one you're more interested in.


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piano is very very difficult to get good enough in to impress.
it is also very expensive to buy one and if you're looking to pick up girls with it not very portable.
guitar is cliche because it works, if you're great at piano it works as well but much more difficult to do


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Actually i dont wanna tend to play hard music band's songs and metal songs.Linkin Park is enough for me about rock music.Thats why im not sure if i should start with electro guitar.I like music thats why i can like whatever i play easily but firstly what type of music i will play is more important.


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Actually i dont wanna tend to play hard music band's songs and metal songs.Linkin Park is enough for me about rock music.Thats why im not sure if i should start with electro guitar.I like music thats why i can like whatever i play easily but firstly what type of music i will play is more important.
Linkin Park would be on the easier side of rock bands that you would be able to play. I am not a huge Linkin Park fan but I have heard bits of their stuff here and there. For most of this style of music you would need an electric guitar, an amplifier, and possibly some effects in order to emulate their sound accurately.

You really need to think if you really want to play guitar before investing this kind of money. What I would suggest if you are on the fence is find a band that you like that plays a lot of acoustic stuff. This will be a lot easier for you to emulate right out of the gate without having to worry about distortion and that sort of thing as well. It will also be a lot cheaper going the acoustic route.

If you haven't been exposed to creating music you will find out that when you hear most bands that play electric guitars that they have tons and tons of effects going on to make their sound what it is. In most cases you can't just buy an electric guitar and any amp and automatically get their tone. Many of these bands have extensive pedal boards and rack equipment and it can get pretty expensive. Emulating someone's clean or acoustic sound is much simpler and you can usually do this with a pretty cheap guitar as well.


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Actually i dont wanna tend to play hard music band's songs and metal songs.Linkin Park is enough for me about rock music.Thats why im not sure if i should start with electro guitar.I like music thats why i can like whatever i play easily but firstly what type of music i will play is more important.
Are you wanting to play for others, or for yourself?


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