Hey guys, I went out last night and had fun but I am having trouble with night game. How am I supposed to build comfort and rapport if the venue is so loud we can't even talk to each other without screaming? On the other hand, I have tried to escalate physically (ie. hand holding, etc) but it's not enough without the other half which is conversation. Some good advice from a proven method would really be appreciated. Thank you in advance for your time.

I've had that problem before. Honestly, it's down to body language and physicality. This is a great chance to practice these aspects of your game. You're going to need to learn to be so assertive with girls. Don't be afraid to get blown out.

I just love nightgame. Here is what works for me:

- I have good inner game.
- I am dressed money and I stand out from any guy.
- I have great posture and I work out.
- I push myself to open first few sets quickly.
- I stay in those sets even if they don't like me just to get myself into the state.
- Once I'm in the state (takes about 20 minutes) I know I can do anything I want to and don't even think about it.
Words matter very little at start. She has seen you and already decided if she wants to give you a chance before you opened your mouth. If you open her in the loud part of the club, it doesn't matter if she can her you or if you can hear her. Be there for 2 minutes "talking" and take her some place quiete. There you can talk if you want to.

I can go on for hours bout techincal stuff, but what is important is your mindset. Are you ready to suffer? Are you ready to learn? There is absolutely no substitute for talking to girls and learning from your interactions.

Best of luck,
Defy
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Was about to reply but Defy mentioned it all

Damn defy good post +1

Only tip I would add on is be very psychical, you have an excuse to grab her and pull her into you since it is so loud. Have heavy eye contact and when you go in too whisper into her ear hold eye contact until the last second ur whispering, then pull away and grdually get closer and closer--- so your nose are touching. When this is happening (noses touch ~~ur that close~~) you should put your hand behind her neck, brush hair and do a C sweep around her chin and hook up.

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-Raphael

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Raphael, be very careful with this. I see guys getting very physicall early on and it creeps even me out, let alone the girls.

The key is to be confident with your touch, but not pushy and needy. Most guys ARE pushy and needy with their touch. You can grab her strongly at first, but let go. I had a breakdown with one girl and she said when I grabbed her arm the way, she knew I've been doing this for a while. Then you let her go, and back off for a little. Escalation ladder by diCarlo is a great asset for physical game and I strongly recommend it.

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KK I will use this thanks bro... I am still learning night game, its been hard for em to amster cause im underage but I do practice when i get the chance...

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

THat whole concept suxs. I don't think there is such a thing in Europe.

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What sucks is I was in europe for like 2 months before I started college so trust me I know. I hate this damn law. I really have no need to drink if I want to game. I honestly dont care if I dont have a beer. It's just retarded. If you can go to the army (volunteer) you should be able to drink. Ahh politics so not the right time to argue.

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

Read the adventures I take as I discover my way towards becoming a mPUA or a dPUA (decent PUA) including completing the StyleChallenge ---> raphaels-journel-vt119594.html

Thank you guys so much for your posts, I am going to try this out
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