So i have been reading alot of jornals, and by what i have seen they really help improve the game, so i decided to start one.

As i have gotten into the game with a friend, we decided to make one jornal with our separate experiences and also our team experiences since we are wingman.
This account will be used by both so when the posts are personal we will mark with our pseudonym being: Alock and Loco

We will start with simple introductions and as we get info and stories we shall keep them coming.The plan is for this to be a long term jornal, something we can look back and learn with our mistakes and your advices. In our learning process we hope to help anyone that has similiar problems.


Before we start we would like to thank AFCDaniel for the inspiration of starting this jornal, we shall try to use similiar layout, if you don't like please let us know and we will stop.

Alock

So who am I?
I'm pretty much a big AFC, i have been satisfied with my situation, never wanting to change and grow. The idea of starting to train PU is the evolve, not only with women but the whole social part.

What Happend?
After being in a relathinship for quite a while, i understood my problem, as I am puting chicks in a pedastal, treating them as something out of my reach, and this is what complicating me. I'm still suffering from the breakup stupid enough .

Weak Spots and First Areas to Improve
I can socialize really good, but only at the point that I have had some interaction with the person, witch girls I have dificulties with openers and closing. I suffer alot from AE [as i don't call it AA after i saw this Post: (Can't find the link now, will edit as soon as i find, for the while AE is aproach excitement)]

Conclusion
For the last year I had to spend almost all of my time studying, as in my country, to get to superior education we have to pass through a hard avaliation. I had some time to read articles and get most of the theoretical info, but know that the tests are over I can start going to the field.

Initial Objectives
1 - Get over the break-up
2 - Lose my AE ( AA )
3 - Change my mentality of pedestal



So this is my introduction, I shall be posting more soon.

Loco here. Well, not sure how to do this, hopefully as this journal goes on it will become a more natural thing. Basically i got into PUA for about a month and a half, thanks to my friend Alock who gave me "The Game" by Neil Strauss to read. As i read it, i started to realize how things would have gone a lot smoother in life had i known some stuff before-hand. I started researching and eventually found this forum, and i got to say the "#1" before its name is well deserved. Here i began gathering some info and as i tried some things out i was amazed how well it worked. Now i believe its time to get my hands dirty lol Im gonna share all te successes and failures, and hopefully this will help me grow as PUA and help others out there.

Now for some background. In the past, i used to have no confidence at all. It was mainly due to my appearance, and that got in the way so many times that i have lost count. After a while, i began changing phisically and mentally (teenagehood lol) , and now am fully confident in myself, due to a good amount of success with women. Before getting into PUA, Night-game with direct openers were my thing, and i actually got good at it after a lot of trial and error. Now my goal is to get better, at everything. I believe we must never change ourselves, but improve and show the better of us to people.

With that being said, good luck to us all.

Loco

Soo, what's up people?
Need some advices on something. Going to this night club saturday and as i have stated before, i normally use a direct approach, no routine, just try to feel the mood and get a quick close. Now i wanna try some different things. Any ideias on what should i do? What openers to use?
Appreciate all the feedback. Anything at all is useful.

hey guys.

have you read "the game"?
or mystery method?
if not,do it now to get info on openers and stuff,very useful stuff...

plus the forum is flooded with routins and openers,serch for em'

hope i helped you,and good luck


EDIT:plus i enjoyed reading your jornal,keep it neat.

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Loco here
Yep, very good stuff. It was by reading it that we (me and Alock) got to know the community and started searching.
Another yes. Not a huge fan of the method here, but there are definitely some things that are worth picking up.
Thanks for the reply man.

Loco

Soo, first field report i have ever written in my life. My skill with this journal is definitely a work in progress but try to bear with me.

Last night, as i said before, i went to this night club. It was INSANE there. Very nice place, lots of beautiful people. But i digress, let's get to what really maters

Goals for Last Night:
Try different approaches using what i've learnt so far in PUA
Get out of confort zone (direct game)

Results:
Its was not as i thought it would be. I was very excited, but when the time came, i just couldn't get out of the confort zone. Probably for fear of rejection. I ended up using direct approaches (better ones yes, but nonetheless direct) as i always do. Kinda of a dissapointment here.
Only once i used a indirect approach. I saw a girl texting near the bar and I went over to talk to her:
Me: "Your boyfriend must be very nice. Otherwise you wouldn't be texting him right now."
Hb: "Im not texting my boyfriend.Im actually just texting a friend while I wait for another to come out of the bathroom."
Me: "You're joking right? Can't believe you're here just sitting around doing nothing in this awesome party. You know what, you just killed my mood."
Hb: "No, dont say that. Here, putting it away (puts cellphone in the purse). What can we about getting you're mood back? Perhaps a drink?"
Me "No, a kiss is better"
And went for the kiss close.

All the other approaches were very normal to my game and are not worth mentioning, and to be honest I did it so automaticaly that I can't even remember the interaction.

All in all, it was good night for me, but I got to work out being able to try new things.

Any feedback is apprecciated.

Ps: One thing that i think is one of the problems, is that in night clubs, you cant have a real conversation, very loud and hard to hear so i always think it is better to go direct and fast, to shorten the amount of "what?". Is this an issue for you guys as well? Perhaps there are situations where a specific kind of approach is needed. Give me your opinions on this.

ALOCK

Sorry for taking so long to post, not much has been happening.

So tomorrow we will be going to a club, it will our first time winging after joing the community, any tips would be really apreciated.

Objective:
1) Must overcome my fear of rejection (AE) - aproach as many people, not necessary with second intention
2) Interrect get out of comfort zone - really hard for me
3) By being in a club scene go for kc

So this are my objectives, any tips would be good, and any feedback in the jornal
More posts to come, after the club i will prepare a field report.

Thanks Everyone

Next time you go to the club use the Apocalypse Opener on the most beautiful women you see and deliver it with a straight face.

No matter the result , you will gain more confidence.

Apocalypse Opener? Could you post it here for us? And if it is what I am thinking, not sure if it will work. But it will definitely end Alock AE.

Btw, Loco here.

Focus first on gaining confidence and eliminating AE.

Alock

Field Report 1

So yesterday was a completely new experience for me, never went clubbing didn't know what to expect and how to act, so let me go over what happened.

For some reason i didn't feel any AE/AA, I easily had the balls to go talk to people, at first I started by socializing with a dude, which was pretty crazy, had lots of laughs and was good for me to loosen up.

So than i decided to start a conversation with a girl, close to where we were there was a HB7,5 just starring to nowhere, so i opened her.
ME: So we are in a pretty cool party, why are you so quite here?
HB: I came with my cousins, and because they don't drink, I'm up here watching.
ME: Commented something about they not liking to have fun (don't remember really well)
Dramatic Pause

Here i felt i failed terribly, i wasn't able to maintain a fluid conversation, all my backup talks blanked out of my mind, so it went for a while with pausing and talking (failing ) , so I went with hell with it, I said to myself this was a bad start, but I'm gonna try to go for more intimacy, than I ran into a problem, the girl told me she was 25, and started saying I was to young for her, so i told her to enjoy the party and went back to meet with Loco.

Learned - Pay more attention to back up info, use any info she tells to evolve the conversation, train to make this fast and natural.



Talked with some HB 8,5 and 9 at the bar, not feeling any AE at least.

After a while and a couple of drinks me and Loco started challenging each other to go talk with some chicks try openers, was good to train.
But I feel like I'm approaching incorrectly and making the girl uncomfortable leading to a failure.

At this point tried some APOCALYPSE openers just for confidence, didn't get any positive results.

I'm really upset that 2 girls i talked with I should have tried to KC, but wasn't fast enough and lost opportunity.



So out of my 3 objectives completed 2 - I feel really bad for not being able to KC, I was hoping it would help me forget me ex.


So my questions if you guys can give any feedback.
1) Best way to approach fiscally, like, positioning, tone of voice, etc.
2)BL, how can I be more noticeable
3) Help with creating sexual attraction and frame, I feel like I'm to friendly


So this completes my first field report, thanks for reading

Sup people, long time no see. Loco here.

Im not really sure i should do this field report but my frind Alock urged me to so here it comes.

This week, classes started again. All the same people, aside from a brother and a sister who got transfered. The brother i do not know yet, no info here. But the sister, a solid Hb 8,5. Very shy and all of the guys were on her like vultures lol.

In an effort to be the alpha and to set me appart from the other guys, i resisted the urge to go talk to her straight away ( perhaps 3 second rule was pushing me forward LOL).

Let two days roll by and then decided to make my move. My first goal was to stick 100% to the game. So i walked up to the group, all my friends aside from her and started a convo with everyone, quickly escalating to became the center of ir (at the same time, i was ignoring her). After a couple of minutes, i said: "I think im being unpolite to our new friend, letting her out. (Turn to her) I gotta go get some books. Care to join me? " To which she responded yes. Walked with her to the place where i was supposed to get the books and all the way I was gaming her, Throwing negs, one compliment when I felt that I had gone too far with all the negging and stuff. And that was it for day 1, imo i was succesfull in doing what the other guys couldn't, buildin attraction and a little confort.

Day 2, just kept gaming her with the usual point. At one point, isolated her and kept gaming. I like to keep track of the progress by counting IOI's and in my account, was one IOI away from the K Close when shit happened. The tarhet made a comment on my appearance and in an instant, all my confidence and game vanished. I was like the hugest AFC at that point. ( btw, i dont thing she did it on purpose as a shit test or anything) What saved me was that a very good friend of mine came up to me and said he needed to have some words with me. I then excused myself and ejected.

This situation totally brought me down. Was only by discussing it with Alock that i decided to keep gaming her.

Day 3 (yesterday) I was very tired and as soon as I arrived class i fell asleep. I woke up with her hands in my eyes asking me to guess who it was. I was still a little asleep so the best answer i came up with at that moment was : Mom? Is it time already? (LOL not one o my brightest times). She was very funny and all and asked what I was listening too ( i had my headphones on ) i told her and she replied she didn't like it much ( that genre) I asked her then: "Well then, lets see what you DO like and then i can evaluate it." Was trying to make her validate herself to me. She put one of her headphones on me and shuffled through some songs. She did had a good taste. The class then started and she went to her seat. At lunch, I decided to follow another route. Instead of going straight for K Close, I walked up to her, isolated her and # Closed.

That was it for the week. Any feedback is really appreciated.

Oh, and another post coming soon, no fr there, just some ideas i've been having and want your opinions on. Some techniques and such.

Alock

So, a while back when I started learning PU, I decided to choose a girl to train online interections. So there was a HB9 that had just ended a long term realationship, and I though, why not, after a all it's training the worse that can happend is i get rejected.

I started to chat with her online, trying to use as much of what i had learned, tried to always create DHV, show who was in charge of the chat, and I was able to create a link with her.

On a post I read about a way to go for an online # close, it was kind of all-in, but I gave it a shot.
Passed her my # and asked her to message me so i could get hers, and I got it, she even resent me a message because I didn't reply at first, definitely ioi.

So I gave some time before starting text game, and due to some anger problems, last friday I started it. As I'm a real enthusiastic with music, i would always use this in my favor, saying that I was disappointed with her musical tastes, and she trying to make it up with me. I finished the night by not answering her last msg, which i got another one asking why i didn't early the other day.

Ok, so i think everything is going good, i chatted with her at facebook, and I simulated an idea of me and her going out here how it went.

ME: I got kind of sad with you
HB: y?
ME: I can't believe you don't know queen (Topic of the text the night before)
HB: I think I've heard of it before, OK?
ME: I will pretend that it's ok
HB: Sorrrry
ME: You should go out with me, or it's going to be hard to save you
HB: hahha, to show me music and...?
ME: and whatever comes (i failed here), right?
HB: Yes,yes
ME: k got to go (really had)
HB: kiss(weird translated, but this is normal from where i come from)
Me: kiss


So you must be wondering, why i didn't ask her right at that point, it's actually because this week is kind of full, and I wouldn't have the right time.




I would really appreciate some feedback, and any ideas on which type thing i should do with her when i take her out.


Thanks - KUDOS to Loco for helping me out when I needed

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Keep it up bro, I will follow and give tips.

First off your texting needs to be more playful, have some fun with it. Also when you ask her out set a date and such make it happen dont just say it.

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