Your reputation points say it enough, you have 37.6 with nearly 700 post.. And even if kieren is giving you negatives, theres no way he could maintain the amount of points he has, along with giving you so many negative cuts on your rep... It's just not possible.

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It seems as though you're more invested in this than I am. You're reacting like a child with a bruised ego (attempting to subject me to reputational damage by challenging my comments so publicly). I honestly don't have the time, desire, nor patience to engage in petty-minded power struggles. Incidentally, for your own edification I gave up a massive amount of points neg repping several idiots on this board. But I mean seriously, what worth do they have anyway, can I trade them in for a MPUAforum hair comb when I reach 1000? I digress...

What is it they say in the PU world? Something to the effect of "the person who holds more power in a relationship is the one who cares less". Perhaps it's time you practice what you preach.


Let's try to stay on course by continuing to provide insight into such an interesting topic rather than continuing with this futile dick measuring contest.

No one likes you (or your other persona detox) on this forum dude, you are by far the most unpopular person on here because you are a straight up asshole and your advice sounds like it is coming from a pubsescant freshman who just finished a semester of psychology. Everything you say indicates zero life experience to back it up.

Yet you expect us to believe you went from 0 - over 35 in just over a week when most of the votes you received were deducting asshole points from you. What a sad pathetic little man you are papiculo. Do everyone a favour and take a hike.

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To each his own. Some of these books do help improve one's insight into female behaviour, but beyond that you'll find contradictory advice from one book to another; each has it's own style, or tool box of techniques. I prefer a more natural approach; this will entail different things for different people.

Jesus Pachi do you always argue with people... haha you seem to have a trail of angry people.

I respect everyones opinions, and I never look at reputation or anything. Its about what you give not what you take.

I think majority of the people on this forum will agree there does not need to be attraction physically to gain access to a target.

Wow I just left this on for 25 mins, this might be answered already, but isn't "a natural approach" bullshit. I mean everyone has a system, as a natural, I still have phases. I have some lines to fall on. Sure I will make shit up as I go, but I still follow a structure, I open attract build rapport then close or what ever... Only difference with a natural and MM is I dont wear a fucking crazy hat and goggles and use direct lines.

Seriously what else is the difference. I haven't really found any. I mean there might be obvious ones I am missing, but watching the SOU so slightly distracted.

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Typically, naturals wouldn't ever end up on a forum like this because they are pulling women at such a solid rate that this wouldn't even interest them..

I was approaching women before this site, then I ran into relationship issues, caught oneist and needed help. I've been here ever since.

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Sure, you can have "access" as in get acknowledged, but you won't get any further. Most women would laugh at the notion of sleeping with a guy they have no attraction to. You're basing your statement on what a group of self-proclaimed PUAs have to say - based solely on anecdotal experience.

So what does that make you then?

I agree with Fuze, there are not any naturals on here. Natural's are not interested in forums such as these unless there is a need for it, they don't understand the value of PUA because they have never learned or gained from it.

Granted there are a lot of guys on here who are now nothing short of awesome with women but they did the hard yards and they know what it's like to be frustrated and confused so they feel compelled to help out and give back.

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It makes me exceptional. I'm not here seeking any sort of validation, unlike you and your posse of socially aloof misfits obsessively trying to formulate algorithms on how to get laid.

Do you understand the definition of algorithm? or were you just trying to sound cool(Seeking validation)?

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a set of rules for solving a problem in a finite number of steps, as for finding the greatest common divisor.


Fuck, you really are dumb!

From the perspective of a viewer, it almost looks as if this has become an AMOG battle.

It's going to go nowhere, real fast. Either someone come up with a good line, or just agree to disagree.

Besides which, I am getting spammed with notifications.

Yup that is exactly what it is. Papi for someone who calls someone a princess you sure act like an 8th grade girl... Fuze you are supposed to be boss yet acting childish.

There no bias insulted both of you.

I think the term natural is bullshit when it comes to PUA, unless your born with the innate skills to get woman your not a natural. You trained yourself to become good at it through practice and hard work. So it seems natural. That's like saying Michael Phelps is a natural swimmer. No he trained his ass off to become a beast ass swimmer who makes it look like second hand skill. No fetus comes into this world with the skills he has. Guy is like a fish out of water. Maybe thats a bad analogy I just really wanted to use Michael phelps as an example. He prob was a natural swimmer, but thats not the point. If you are on this site to learn to get woman your status as natural is removed because you are seeking help from others. Getting tips from a buddy at a bar is different, thats not spending hours during a week to study. We all are on this site for a good 2hrs+ / week


End of discussion.

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You are on a website called 'Pick up artist forum' retard.

Yet you claim that you are better than everyone on here? I doubt you know what an algorithm is but I have never seen either myself or Fuze use one, ever And I certainly don't need one to get laid.

My incredibly beautiful girlfriend is laying in bed behind me and I guarantee I didn't use any 'algorithms' to get her into bed. It was actually quite easy for me because I am not a creep like you.

Raphael I know some guys who have never picked up a seduction related book their entire lives, they are jocks, as dumb as dog shit yet women worship the ground they walk on. They are naturals because ever since they hit their teens their seduction abilities have developed naturally with age.

For the modern man this can be quite rare because our own intelligence interferes with our natural instincts, we over analyze things we don't go after the girls we want, we convince ourselves we are unworthy etc.

Fortunately however there is a way to overcome this and not only that but with the right attitude and knowledge you can actually manipulate the natural order by imitating certain qualities of alpha males and attract women who would normally be considered 'out of your league'.

Most of that information can be found within this forum and just about anyone on here can achieve that kind of success provided they don't listen to tools like Papichulo.

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Yea I dont actually take legit advice from papi guy called me a fag then argued about it for a good three posts, I actually thought that his immature assholeness would be perfect for this post since all I was doing was acting like a little bitch with this chick trying to just 1 up her. Its his forte.

Also yea thats natural, if you need to come on this site you aren't natural anymore. I used to get girls in HS cause of soccer, but someone in commuter school told me about this site while talking to a major AFC and I was just next to him so I discussed my natural game and all with him and a lot of it actually was in here.

I have no AA because of acting and thus my body language is really strong. Yet, I learned a shit load about transitioning and all. I love this site I learned so much Great thing is I am only 18 so I got the rest of my life to work on my notches.

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