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I dont remember man..but I do believe you should watch this..this is pure gold information..all the 21 convention videos are filled with information given only in bootcamps!

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Ehhh filled is a strong word haha, they say a lot of the same shit and I have seen it so it would be redundant.

I will watch it when I am free tomorrow and try and look. But thanks mate I appreciate the fact you searched for this for me it means a lot!

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Hey I've read most of your journal sounds good. You mention in your last one that you look pretty young for your age. I'm the same I have a young face but I got into the gym a couple years back and now I look of age or a bit older. So if you haven't got into the gym I recommend it just a thought!

Keep it up il be following ya as well

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Hey I've read most of your journal sounds good. You mention in your last one that you look pretty young for your age. I'm the same I have a young face but I got into the gym a couple years back and now I look of age or a bit older. So if you haven't got into the gym I recommend it just a thought!

Keep it up il be following ya as well
I was never able to in HS I got home 10pm I commute from NYC to CT so not a fun ride and yea at 10pm most gyms are closed, but I am gonna start now, legit thxs for the tip.

Also appreciate and if you have any comments/questions feel free to comment/ask :P

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Hey man it was really nice to go day gaming with you. I learned a lot and didnt expect to actually get a number from anyone so soon. Thanks for the help and hope we can do it again.


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Date: 2.11
Location: Club Alchemy
Wings: Guinness & some really cocky ass kid who I probably will never game with again

A promising trip

So tonight was the first night I would do night game in a long time, plus I was technically solo. Both wings have no idea how to do game or know that I do it, so it was funny to watch them go holy shit at times.

We arrive at 11 which I assume is late, but club is practically empty, to get in the mood I immediately open a set. Two girls, they weren't responsive, and the fat one had a bf(who cares), so I just used it to get warmed up. I then ejected. I opened up 5 sets and did fairly well imho. A lot of them were interested, they were leaning into me (skills thxs for advice I didn't lean in once -maybe once but I def stood my ground) Eventually I found a two set. I opened and escalated quickly, I knew this was the one I'd be getting with.

So I start off by chatting them up, then I ask them if they play pool. I take one of the girls as my partner and the other goes to my wing -the cocky fucker. I figured he drove me up I can give him the other. She wasn't bad at all. I then start building rapport as we are doing our shit. Pool on a small table is a lot harder than I thought.

Anyways after the game I ejected, I got bored wanted to meet new girls. I told her I will see her later, she said for sure and she is getting a drink. I leave and meet a group of chicks 4 set, and one of them was very fcking sexy 27, I didnt believe it, I am 18 so 9 yrs is a good difference.

I ask them how they know each other, what they do for work, and build some rapport with the group. This 27 yr old begins to answer the questions for everyone. She tells me everyones names and tests me to see if I remember, so I made up a name for everyone. Then she was like thats not my name... guess shes not the brightest, she thought I was serious.

Then some DJ announces some shit no idea, he sucked, but another part of the club opened. I was interested to see what it was, a dance floor, diff dj, some more chicks. Interesting I thought. I went upstairs saw the girl from earlier, pick her up and walk towards the place drop her and tell her to dance.

Now heres where shit went wrong, I wanted to kiss her, but I heard from someone I should wait a song or two. So I waited one song were dancing face to face, i slow us down, start front-grinding. I wanted to then spin her around, and grind legit, than spin her and hook up, but like I said I read wait a song or two. I wanted to test.

*PS* Matt if you read this... I did the romeo to a girl and then did a bend on a knee Noooooooo!!!! to another. It was fun***

She then sees a stage and drags her friend they then start dancing for like 30 mins on that shit. I dance with other girls but its just not the same. There were like only 15 other girls straight up.

I go upstairs and see the 27 yr old she is sitting down, I get really close and ask her whats up, she tells me her feet hurt and she hates wearing heels, I then do the vienna white move and flaunt my shoes, we then joked about how I should wear her heels, so I tell her I will do it make a video and send it to her, she said really and I just laughed and said thats never going to happen.

I then asked her to dance again, but she said she was in pain. I didn't really know what else to do, I spoke a bit more, but got kind of bored. I told her I was going to leave she said nooo.. but I just gave her a hug and left. I am thinking now mb number close but w.e

So then I go on the stage cause I see the girls are still there. I am dancing with the girl in front of everyone, cause I am boss like that. Legit people are throwing 1$ bills at her like its monopoly money, talk about paying off student loans. We talk about how I am not supposed to be up there and I just say I dont care, were dancing still. After a few mins some bouncer tells me to get off, haha fucker, but its business so its all good. Straight up attention whore though.

After a few more sets, a couple more songs + dancing. Legit every girl (and theres like 15 mind you) is with a guy. So I called it a night but I wasnt going to leave empty handed that would torture me.

I see the other chick in that two set and grab her telling her I am bouncing and ask for her number. I dont take it since it was my wings girl (I thought it was the other girl fuck I am dumb) he is next to me so he just tkaes her numb. I hug her goodbye and leave. I feel bad legit cause I didnt mean to cockblock, but this guy was becoming mad douchey anyways talking about how awesome he is. He legit waited 15 mins holding my girls drink cause she needed to do something. --- kk not relevant--

So I see my chick coming back from a smoke I grab her and pull her into me, we start talking for a bit. I then tell her how i have to go but we should meet next thursday (she was telling me how she was there and I should come on thurs blah blah blah) so I got her number. Again I wanted to kiss her so badly, and for some reason I just didnt think she was into it (at that moment), I should just tried fuck it.


Questions

1. Should I wait 2-3 songs before I K-Close, or do it as soon as possible or at least like after 2-3 mins of dancing?s

2. What should I have done with the 27 yr old after she said she didnt want to dance but still clearly interested?

3. How can I improve my game. Get more successful in K-closing and eventually ONS

4. How can I ask a girl to dance, I realize now I should get eye contact before approaching, is that all there is to it?

If you need more details I will try to remember, I realize I suck at writing these reports as they are just the brevity of what happened and not specific enough.


Pros & Cons

No AA at all, I went up to every single person that I thought was attractive.
I didn't k-close or f-close.
I probably left to early, I should have stayed, but I feel that is AFC waiting for that one chick. There wasn't anyone else, but I should have tried still.
I opened very well, built good rapport with groups, and isolated + psychically escalated imo amazingly. I just didnt get the damn k-close. Pissed about that.

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Dude I don't understand..why the fuck didn't you isolate your 27 year old when she told you she cant dance?? She cant dance..wow dont dance simple as that. Just sit down near her build some attraction or if you think shes interested sit down and kiss her after a while. You don't need to dance to KC...and stop listening to what other people say. Wait for 2 songs before kissing?? LOLL what an idiot the guy who told you that. Being a skilled artist is calibrating your moves to her responses. If after one song she fucking wants you..you dont need to wait another song just because somebody told you it's the rule. If after 2 songs she doesnt seem ready..don't kiss simple as that and pull the trigger later when you know she wants you. You improve your game by practicing, practicing, practicing..you're in the pain period as me also...you have to get through this before having a lot of results. Review your notes...take time to read before you sleep some theory that you want to use in field...the day you sarge dont read anything though. Peace!

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Dude I don't understand..why the fuck didn't you isolate your 27 year old when she told you she cant dance?? She cant dance..wow dont dance simple as that. Just sit down near her build some attraction or if you think shes interested sit down and kiss her after a while. You don't need to dance to KC...and stop listening to what other people say. Wait for 2 songs before kissing?? LOLL what an idiot the guy who told you that. Being a skilled artist is calibrating your moves to her responses. If after one song she fucking wants you..you dont need to wait another song just because somebody told you it's the rule. If after 2 songs she doesnt seem ready..don't kiss simple as that and pull the trigger later when you know she wants you. You improve your game by practicing, practicing, practicing..you're in the pain period as me also...you have to get through this before having a lot of results. Review your notes...take time to read before you sleep some theory that you want to use in field...the day you sarge dont read anything though. Peace!
I did Isolate the 27yr old!!!! I just got bored for some reason, I guess you are right I should have done the cube and got more intimate. I was not thinking :P

As for the 2 songs, I heard it and wanted to try it. I think there is a point to it, the entire time I was teasing her. Lifting up her shirt, raising her hands, brushing her hair away, I was teasing her like a tool, but I should have just done it. I was waiting for the song to end and a new one start. I guess I should have just done what I normally do and go in after a few mins.

I dont ever read notes or anything, I just do natural. I dont want to learn a system you know that, im anti-structure. Your 100% right about the 27 yr old I should have just stayed there and did more shit haha. Chick was gorgeous, and now that I am thinking about it I am not sure if she was 27 or 23, not that it matters. Still fuck me sideways I was a bender that night.

Thanks for the tips bro I will go out a lot more and try this shit. I going to get good quick, I just use day game convo skills in night game and just escalate asap and its pretty much the same thing.

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No problem but I'm also a natural I'm not saying notes about routines and stuff. But as a natural you have to have specific mindsets and a lot of information..by reading nothing and just going out without knowing nothing will just increase your pain period and increase your chances of failure. Being a natural doesnt mean you dont read nothing and you just freestyle. Naturals are in a way "synthetic" because theres a lot of things naturals do over and over again. Being a natural is knowing even more information..because you dont rely on lines..you rely on concepts and most importantly mindsets. These concepts and mindsets are different in each natural guy..but if you dont even know some of the smallest natural concepts that help you out you're just going to wait longer until you have results.

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No problem but I'm also a natural I'm not saying notes about routines and stuff. But as a natural you have to have specific mindsets and a lot of information..by reading nothing and just going out without knowing nothing will just increase your pain period and increase your chances of failure. Being a natural doesnt mean you dont read nothing and you just freestyle. Naturals are in a way "synthetic" because theres a lot of things naturals do over and over again. Being a natural is knowing even more information..because you dont rely on lines..you rely on concepts and most importantly mindsets. These concepts and mindsets are different in each natural guy..but if you dont even know some of the smallest natural concepts that help you out you're just going to wait longer until you have results.
So what is a good read in your opinion that actually helps. I dont want a book that says be confident and approach within 3 seconds, because I dont have a problem with that. I dont need an inner game book, again I dont think it would be as beneficial. So whats a good book that will help me "master" or "shape" my game.

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LOL bro belive me you do need inner game strong as a tree. Natural is just having so much strong inner game that how you express your emotions gets you girls. Naturals are basically just inner game experts who know how to think in each situation and because of the way their thinking..their emotions reflect what they need to say or do. That gets them girls. Go read The attraction code by vindicarlo...it's not for inner game..it's for becoming a natural theres no scripted shit there and the book is really unbelievable. It teaches you how you need to think and act without structure or canned routines. You need to understand that books dont master your game..there are just informations that help you out but knowing nothing will just take you more time to progress. Your choice

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You should also write on a piece of paper 3 things you want to work out each night you go out and put it in your pocket. A lot of guys just go out to "sarge". Not focusing on things you want to get better will also take much longer to see progress. This is straight up from DJ Fuji best asian coach in the world.

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I will look into it :P

Thanks for the advice I appreciate it.

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I understand it has been months since I have posted in my journal, please do not take that to mean that I haven't been sarging, far from it, I have progressed a lot since I first started. I have recently reached a plateau phase. With that said I would love some help on a matter.

I feel like I can improve my attraction phase a lot more. I am not incorporating as much DHV as I should or realizing if I am. Can someone please tell me how one does this more nonchalantly or other ways to show attraction. Thanks!

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It has been a while since I posted but last week I went out for both day game and night game good fun met a lot of new people.

Night Game
Location: Manhattan (lower east)
Wings: Louie, Chong, Herman, and me.

So we start off at Sidebar, a nice bar with dance floor, there is some sort of party so it is packed. Louie and I planned on getting drunk, tonight was a night to enjoy and girls will come on the way. As always we go our separate ways and we meet some girls. I opened a set warmed up than left cause I saw a hotter girl, sadly discovered she had a bf and there he was talking to his bros. No shame in that, I continued. I see my mate Chong talking to a two set, I see an opportunity to help him isolate. So I talk to the other girl, very cute, but very very drunk. I immediately get an IOI I pull her in close, I most probably could have hooked up with her but I have a thing against drunk chicks, next time fuck it. I started talking, I think that was my problem, I normally do not chat I try to be quite and let her do a lot of the talking and me just instigating the convo. However, I asked her what she does, whats her deal, she took it offensively, I don't understand why, but yea, she was responded very negatively so I asked my other mate to wing her. He was successful but dreaded it haha, after he told me he turned around saw the other wing wasn't gaming the girl and just left his hahaha.

Later that night same club, I met some psych girl, my wing was trying to game her but it didnt work out for him so I figured I can clean up. I got her number but I wasn't really interested in her for some reason as much as I was at the start. I later approached her to dance, but her drunk friend was hanging on her and pushing me away saying she needed to be taken care of.

Eventually, we find our way to another club. There we drink more!!! Yay! We see a two set so me and my boy louie game then, very good game maybe 20 mins. Solid number close and everything. Only issue was my girl was slightly drunk and was eating and ood fell out of her mouth and I was so turned off. She was all over me, we took a photo and I whispered in her ear if we weren't in public I would do something really inappropriate she than said too bad :P


All fun eventually comes to an end, I hug her good bye and she asks for me to make sure I see her again next week, I have heard that line too many times, why! Anyways good end to a night, had she had some table manners I don't think I would be telling such a PC13 story. Some things are just unexplainable but bothersome.

Anyways the day game, wow I wrote a lot, pretty much got two different numbers our of four sets. So my percentage is good. One set was really bad I was trying to wing for my bro. The girl was really really unreceptive, is there anyway to get someone at least in a good mood. She was just so non-receptive the moment I walked up to the two of them. The target my friend wanted was awesomely nice. Yes awesomely is a word! I was trying to get her to enjoy my presence so much that she would turn her friend but my wing was too eager to get involved in the convo so I was left with the girl with sand in her panties. So yea, what I do to help wing. I even gave up gaming, I was like I am just being a good wing at this point, you don't have to get so upset. She was like she's not interested, hahaha that girl digged my boy so bad.


Anyways that was this friday and saturday "day game". Don't really remember saturday night. Peace X

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