ahh i knew there was going to be a lot of people that would misunderstand this..shes single. shes saying that she doesnt have sex with anyone unless she goes out with them. she doesnt wanna feel slutty.

i really hope thats it. cuz weve done everything except penetration. and she gave me head for almost an hour. and she slept on me naked. i just hope its just a matter of time because the comfort is there..maybe next time i shud just tease her and not do anything?

Why aren't you just gaming other girls who aren't so complicated?

She's trying to cajole you into being her boyfriend by withholding sex. Do you want to be manipulated like this by a girl you presumably don't even want as a gf?

this is the correct overarching answer to the poster specific question, but he might not be ready to accept this yet.

well i do talk to other girls and keep my options open. but its because theyre not "complicated" that i didnt post a thread about them. why would i talk about girls that i can get it in with..?

its so much satisfying to succeed with someone that doesnt give it up that easily. isnt that the epitome of being a pick-up artist?

but yea yo guys think its just a matter of time cuz the only thing not done is penetration, she even sleeps naked on me...

Keep pursuing, don't say shit about the boyfriend. Just be genuine. "It's just that you make me so horny that I really want to put it in you.." Say that shit in a room alone with her towards the night. Go caveman. If that fails, pull out your cock in front of her. Put her hand on it. Put her hand on it again. After that fails, start jerking it off to her. In her mind, you have now become the resistor. The frame is no longer her being the one rejecting you, but you pleasuring yourself at will with or without her. If she still won't get horny from that, next her.

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lol a lot of people are misunderstanding. shes single. she says she doesnt have sex with anyone shes not in a relationship with. cuz she thinks sex should be special? and she doesnt want to seem like a slut? iunno man.... i need to make her think sex isnt that big of a deal

this is an ego issue, that likely wont eventuate in anything positive. And no that's not even close to being the epitome of a pick up artist

To make her feel as if sex isn't a big deal is by YOU not making a big deal out of it. Way too many people take it seriously. Just act as if you're the dominant jerk and she's your submissive sex slave. It's role play, it gets her comfortable. Also try to reject yourself before she does. For example. Get close to her then back up and say, "I need to jerk it off to you because I want to fuck you real bad. I'll be back in about 10 minutes." Back turn like it's no big deal. What the fuck? This guy doesn't give a shit whether he fucks me or not, he does what he wants, I might as well fuck him, big deal.

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I respect a lot of your post but this one, and I have heard it before, really puzzles me, its like borderline rape and/or sexual harassment. There has to be some attraction built towards the person or it is just creepy as fuck.

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Women get pleasure out of pleasuring the guy. When it comes to actual penetration under extreme ASD, the most powerful move is jerking it off yourself. You automatically become the resistor in her mind, you hold the frame now. What's the worse that can happen? She kicks you out of her apartment? That's fucking hilarious.

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im not too sure i get your point lol..but my point is theres no point of asking for help on girls that youre fuckin already and are easy. thats why im asking for help on this one.

Oh okay change of scenery, I thought this chick was a uni girl that he knows, so like a quite room I figured like a classroom in university, your dick in your hand, her just watching, completely seemed bizarre and unrealistically possible to close.

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Yeah, well the original post was awkwardly written. There was no mention of her being single and you said "she only has sex with her boyfriend", not she only has sex if she's in a relationship. So you can understand my misinterpretation.