is there hope that i'll have a beautiful girlfriend?
is there hope that i'll find someone who appriciates me?

is there hope i'll get sucked off by a 10...and lose this virginity.
it is this miniscule feeling that penitrates my reality so slightly that keeps me going.

I've lost alot of lady friends in the past. I have a flaw i cant seem to understand. Girls fall in love with me, think im the most amazing guy they've ever met. 3 months later, their flaking.

why? mabey because im run out of material...and revert back to my old self.

is there no way to be romantic to a girl without her fucking off to a guy who can't express emotions?

ive gotton over a breakup afew weeks ago. im done and dusted with her. it doesnt change the fact im alone though, i just dont know how to escalate.. my games a mess...im that cool guy at school every aspires...people assume im a natural with the girls, and not because i tell them lies.

ive kissed one girl, i didnt even research before hand, just went in.

how do i sort my life out?

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Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.

Well from an outsider perspective, this is my opinion. First off, you seem desperate, extremely desperate at that. Maybe you are becoming clingy/needy or showing some other negative trait. You also sound like a some sort of hopeless romantic, maybe you are falling in love with these girls to fast? And you are a virgin! You should not be dating girls for 3 months and still be a virgin unless it's a moral thing. Insecurity is a very aweful thing and it shows up without most people ever realizing it.

Are you actually getting into relationship or are these just your preception of a relationship? Maybe its a friendship? How are your skills with women? What do you projectas a person?(humour, manliness, comfort) Please give more details and maybe we can help you out. Everyone has flaws dude, I for instance am a mean motherfucker to people who are close to me, but as long as you can catch yourself doing negative things then you can change them.

Bro, you are still in school, life havent even begun yet.

Relax and if you feel that your personality is not interesting enough try asking your friends what they think are your strong points and what they enjoy talking with you about.
Dont rely on material man! You can do this!

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

thanks for replying guys
alright, im going to try tell you about me some more.


Im 17, ived kissed one girl. I had to lie so much to her to get her to respect me. She was also a model.
3 years ago, i lost around 20 friends, including 7 of the only lady friends i had. Ever since i have not interacted with any female without having the desire to sleep with her.

I always come across one girl. then stop looking.

game her...tease her...kiss her...BAM! Im in love! im fucking attached. can't stop thinking about her. litterally. i tell myself: i wont do it with the next girl. but its impossible.i cant focus at school. where is she at night? why is she posting picture of her and guys up? do i not mean anything to her?
I send her shit
hoping she'll fall into my arms the next day.
little do i know, she's already run.
but what always makes me think is:



Was the memories all for nothing?

i dont know man. i only go for the best looking girls. i think its because of my uncle. he was born a natural, so much pressure on me to live up to him, bringing god damn super models back.

right now, i dont have anything...is it really like it is on the movies? girls spending hours talking to each other about the guy? gossiping? them trying their best to impress me?

id say im fairly good looking, its hard living up to my looks though. sometimes i approach 50 girls one night. othertimes, at school i get nervous when a 9 even makes eye contact with me. this lonliness is driving me so demented. some nights i just feel so depressed.

im more happy now though. i've picked up guitar. it's just that part of my heart that needs a reltionship to aquire true happiness is missing.

there are so many things i want in life, having a sexual relationship is one what i decided is most important. and thats what im trying to dedicate to. im a romantic, i just want to love a girl, and her love me back, you know? not just me loving, and she runs for some reason fucking EVERYTHING up.

i feel like im wasting everyday not talking to girls. i get so scared approaching. i dont know what to do...wait out more? ive already waited 3 years...in those 3 years i met one girl, who i stopped talking to 1 month ago.

i mean, theres guys at school with super fucking hot girlfriends...the girl he can laugh with...who can appriciate him and be there for him...who can have a sexual relationship and respect each him...what do i have...a guitar and xbox.

i never understood how to just get a long relationship with a girl. i always fizzle out. i tell myself, alright you know, i think i love this girl. ah fucking hell man.

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Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.

This is the secret of neediness.

You fall in love fast because you desperately wanna fall in love immediately without making sure that she is up for it too.

You take every chance to fall in love because sooner or later someone will love you back.

I write this as if it was a choice because it is a choice. Most people think that they are not in control and cannot help who they fall for but that is not true. We often choose whether we wanna fall for someone or not, and use that as an excuse. To many people, one-sided love is better than no love at all so they push it and push it and push it.

Get in touch with yourself and ask yourself why you wanna fall in love so desperately because while you go chasing the wrong girl, spending time thinking of some idealized version of her, the right one is searching for you.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I don't really know how to intelligently answer your question anymore, lol. This is deep and goes beyond women. It sounds like you don't like yourself very much. I know you wanna learn to get girls but I am almost certain you need to learn to be happy with yourself first.

Alot of the depression is coming from failure in something. The way you write it about yourself, it sounds like you believe you are a failure in general.

You need to build up your own confidence man. Once you start liking yourself everything else will fall into place. Picking up and being good with women has a lot to do with being confident, fun and not worrying about what people think.

You are just trying to fill an empty void in yourself with women. You try to make them love you so that they dont slip away from you and by doing so they leave you. You are just lonely and I am guessing if these girls "loved" you back you would soon get bored of them. You need to work on yourself! Look at the whole picture man. College, work, hobbies, friends, learning, ect... I know that this is a pick up forum but I rather be a happy man with a ugly wife then half of a man with a beautiful one.

Alot of the kids that come on here or try out pick up will fail. Why? Because they are far to immature. They think a few lines and gimmicks will get them and keep girls. This doesn't happen, they lose the girls. It's cause they can't see the big picture of themselves. You can't fool someone forever.

Dont feel bad bro! This is a common problem! You just need to get your inner game to work for you instead of against you! Take a break and do some soul searching, find out what it is you want! And dont hesitate to ask for help!

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

ok, lets try a fun little excercise, just for a little while stop doing routines, start just being you totally unchanged, now, imagine for a while, that all the girls you talk to are just guys with vaginas, now to this equation add that they are half crazy because they have vaginas, now add this factor, they want sex worse then you, but are deathly afraid of having it with someone new because it is programmed into them, now next factor add that to bypass this you need to understand it and embrace it and trust yourself that you have got it and she likes you,

next thing is screening,

girl will let you touch her,
girl likes to talk to you,
girl will be alone with you,

you are in highschool, so what you are saying about 50 approaches in a night, and being anxious about a girl smiling at you are not lining up, stop holding such ridiculous standards just cause you bang a girl who is average does not mean you can't simultainiously bang hotties, you don't have to commit to girls or be in love with them, you can just have sex with them and not date them,

now, with that in mind and the screening above taken into consideration, she passes screening, invite her to your house to watch a movie, while watching the movie on your couch or bed, you give her 1 test to see if she is interested, just look at her and say, come closer (if she says no, just say ok and watch the movie), if she trys to figure out why just be honest, I want to be close to you, if she complies it is game over, cuddle up, if you are too nervous to initiate a kiss, just ask her, if it works or not irrelivant, trying is more important if you are as good looking as you say most of the girls will say yes (see mystery's kiss close routine), now you can try to get some sex, but since you have never done it before going for the finger bang might be sort of intimidating, I suggest long ass make out sessions until you get comfortable with a girl, once you got a few days of just making out and watching movies and you are comfortable feeling her up, go for the close

not only this but pursue multiple women at a time, NEVER ONE, always as many as possible, don't try to do anything special just assume your looks are enough, and they want to fuck you based on how you look, and it is the same vice versa, and as long as you are not fat she is down, she passes screening she is down, remember that, no matter what crazy shit comes out of her mouth, she wants sex she is just really anxious about it and afraid, PUSH THROUGH THAT SHIT AND STAY PERSISTANT AND SURE THAT SHE WANTS IT, also if you are ever cornered honesty is a good option, no point in hiding shit

good luck, also if a girl doesn't pass the screening, stop talking to her (she won't talk to you, she won't meet you, she won't let you touch her)

the sooner you can screen girls out, the more efficent you will become, try to start screening new girls as often as possible, eventually this will become normal and easy for you, but you have to find the motivation to do it, get a good 10 girls comming over for movies and this whole I love every girl thing, will probably stop happening, just need more options

Lol dude be modest and start of easy. Your kinda tweaking out man. You'll be sucked off, maybe not by a 10 though. Stop worrying about how good a woman looks and start worrying how hard she makes you.

thanks

i suppose thats somthing i never thought of...filling an empty void...

i dont go out too often. and when i do, its just for school. ive never been to a party or club. do i have to change my whole life to be happy now...

how do i keep up with a party girl...its funny... i overheard my mom last night talking to her friend downstairs about my ex (i brought her home to watch a movie one time). i heard:

"Stunning...tall....the moment i saw her...brake his heart".

it was strange. ive never heard my mom say somthing like this. sure enough. she was right. our lifes where so different. she took every kind of drug but because she could...she got paied £1,500 for a couple of god damn pictures to be taken of herself...

and im at home...watching tv every night...feeling sorry for myself. that 2 weeks of my life was the hardest i ever came across...and still here we are...talking about her...i just said i got over her.


im doing well at school and guitar, and want to be a famous rockstar...not for all the shallow reasons, but to simply be remembered. i dont have a deep connection with my family. it just gets awkward. im constantly bombarded by images of perfect couples and women, then i take a step back and look at myself, it just makes me feel even shitter.

i dont know why but its just so important to me to find a girlfriend...and all the perks that come with her. yet again, i have come even closer to losing my virginity, to an even more beautiful girl, but no. she's gone now...gotton over me the same night probabley...whilst i research how to improve my game... only to receive a small amount of happiness, going to bed...alone.

i remember the first week we got together...i was so happy, happiest ive been in 3 years...then i saw a picture that changed everything.

i suppose there is a girl out there ..feeling the exact same way i am, and it is only a matter of time before we meet...how long though? months..weeks...tommorow..?

how a man can be chased by multiple girls at once bewilds me. i beggining to think that im just hardwired like this and should accept it. me being hardwired like this thins almost all girls, and when i do come across her, my life will be happy.

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Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.

are you always like this?

no one is gonna hand you anything you have to make it happen

sitting there crying about how much life sucks = accomplishes nothing

actively trying to sleep with girls with a plan, that ends in, sex or I move onto a new girl in x time = accomplishes something

guys that have an abundance of women, have that abundance for a reason, and it isn't because they spend one year at a time on girls and never try to fuck them, and it isn't because they sit at home crying waiting for perfect 10 girls to just fall into their lap

if you wait for life to happen it will pass you by, you have to make it happen and live life

GOOD LUCK

I swear the first few lines made me think this was a poem you wrote about being lonely.