Good advice sir. So basically I need to neg more before I start kino-escalating. I need to create attraction with rapport. I also feel that when I come in a set, I seem to portray too much interest in the set. Eventhough I FTC, I still need to ask over the shoulder more often and body rock more before I reward her by facing them when she shows IOIs. What happens if they don't show IOIs? it means they are not interested in the convo and I should move on right?

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You don't create attraction with rapport. Rapport = comfort = friends zone. You create attraction by breaking rapport = negging = cocky funny = teasing. You have to break rapport the soonest in a set as you can and build rapport only when you know she's attracted to you. What happens if they don't show IOI's? Do not telegraph interest and break rapport once again..give non verbal FTC's and do not lean in. Demonstrations of higher value sparks up attraction too. DHV's are fun interesting stories included with DHV spikes in it. Basically if you want it Mystery's style...

Negging the target + Demonstrating higher value = Building Attraction

After you build attraction you can now build a connection (rapport) between both of you because you know she wants you...kissing and number closing are both comfort building tactics. If you build some level of rapport with her she will want to give you her number...

Have fun!

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I agree with what you are saying except for email. It is more taboo to give out number so to ask for email is actually smart. It is more covert then asking directly for number. You can email and then work your way up through that.

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[quote="jsmyong55"]Date: 3rd December 2011

K: Yea I did. How about you what did you do today?
J: You wanna know? Lets go somewhere quite so we can talk.
K: (She looked uncertain) Err ok you lead.
J: Did you want to tell your friends that we're headed off for awhile?
(I turned to her friends and said that I was going to borrow her friend for awhile)
K: Ok lets go, you lead..
(I grabbed her hand but she pulled away. Then she said, "We're just friends you know". I looked at her and smiled then grabbed her by the arm and we went to a quieter corner)

AND

K: *Nodding her head but still not looking at me*
(At this point, I decided to eject seeing that she wasn't interested in talking to me.)
J:Everything alright?

AND

J: I find it really weird that you are not looking at me when you talk. Do you have ADD or something?



i think that ur approach game is alright ... u can start a convo pretty good .... just like me ... i sometimes get stuck in a situation where i cant progress the convo and just start asking questions which sometimes i get lucky and find a way to phaze shift her attention more to me ... but its not solid ....

the first one is that u got 1 ok IOI ... she did ask u wat u did today ... but i think u phazed shifted too quickly and tried to isolate her too soon ... also i think the line " you want to know? Lets go somewhere quite so we can talk." is abit of a trap .. its good that she said yes but she did hav the " err " part before she agrees ... should hav made it as if she wanted to go off somewhere quiet ... just make a suggestive statement "lets go some where we can talk" if she say " no " then punish her by leaving ...

2nd one ... is that ur asking if shes alright when shes clearly ignoring u .... shes not alright because shes bored thats whys shes not making eye contact ... and by u asking her that .. its sort of like ur tryin too hard to get her attention ...

3rd one is again seems like ur tryin to get her attention when she should feel privileged to hav u talking to her and LMFAO that neg with the ADD comment is abit harsh LOL pretty good though but i dnt think that would work on any girl ... i dnt hav the guts to say that to a chick ...


but all in all ... ur field testing ur self which is good ... practice makes perfect ... be a boss bro ... dnt let them think ur out for their attention ... and i noticed that u used a few of mystery's methods and routines ... good one man ... try to change it up and abit and use those routines but fine tune it to make it ur own

Don't ask for the email, emails are so weak, ask for the number, don't except email or facebook, always push for the number.

100% correct..I don't even consider a pick up if a girl gives me her e-mail..as I said before: a girl who has attraction and comfort with you will give you her number. Giving an e-mail is like a polite rejection..she liked you but not enough

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I am not saying don't ask for number haha came off wrong. What I was saying is sometimes getting the email is a lot easier than the number or get facebook close. Its so much easier. You take a photo then say how am I gonna get this later, wat aobut friend me. Bam done, then work game and get # after.

Edit: Okay forget it haha, I have never onced asked for an email, I just heard some people do it cause its easier. I have asked for a facebook cause of pics and then worked from there but yea... Fine! Haha I always go for #close. I just figured it was a good way to work up from scratch if you needed help

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David Deangelo goes for emails.. because girls would be more likely to give it out, its less pressure on them to give out as compared to phone numbers especially for some that don't give out numbers to random guys. You can add them on FB with their emails too. But yes, I agree with you.. so far my email-closes have not been successful. I was only testing it out after reading DYD but since it hasn't been successful I'm gonna drop it. Its all about field-testing anyway. Thats the only way to learn if your routines work. Only reason I took their emails was as I said, they were on holiday, so they would be less likely to have a phone number overseas.

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