Hi I am jsmyong55. All these stuff is new to me, I didn't know there was a term for picking up girls and that there were techniques on doing that. A little bit about me, I like meeting new people and going to new places. I wouldn't say that I have much AA but my problem would be keeping the girl interested to continue speaking to me, basically mid-game. Hopefully, learning the art would make me more confident and it would portray in my character and personality.

This would be a journal I would like to keep to track my progress and to receive constructive criticism on each day I go out to game.

Date: 3rd December 2011

Venue: BANG! (Melbourne)

First official day of gaming after reading much about Mystery's methods, watching The PUA 1 and 2 and reading heaps of articles on the forum. What made me start was my failure exactly 1 week ago. After reading the material, I recalled the mistakes I made and what I should've done to avoid it. I was being too needy with this HB9 and I had kino-ed too fast making her feel uncomfortable. I didn't manage to grab enough of her attention to talk to me and she kept looking away everytime. Before she left, I asked for her number, which she gave but with a fake name and number.

Anyway, back to today's story, I must say it was a good start. I didn't accomplish what I came out for which is to at least #-close and K-close but I felt more confident, calm and collected throughout the whole night. At first I hesitated to go out, it felt much more comfortable at home but because I was leaving Melbourne soon, I wanted to make the best out of my last few days here. I dressed myself up (2 toned buttoned up shirt +tie, cardigan and Vans slip ons.. and put on my fleece jacket thinking that I didn't want to freeze myself out there). Arrived at BANG at 11.30pm on my own. Walked up to the bar to buy my first drink when HB7 started grinding with her back on me from the side. She was drunk so she didn't know what she was doing. I asked her if she was enjoying herself she nodded her head not looking at me and mumbled something. I allowed her to buy her drink first although she came later than me. While waiting for her drink, she asked me to come up to order mine which I did. I asked her if she would like to buy me a drink but she said no (again not looking at me), took her drink and went back to her friends. I took my drink and started talking to a few guys waiting for their drink about the music (I wanted to build social proof), one said he didn't like pop punk and said he was going upstairs to the metal section. They left and I started walking around to see if I knew anyone.

Two girls both HB9 tugged on my shirt and I turned around. They were the girls that I had met last week, it was their friend that blew me off. They told me that Kara(the girl's fake name) was a tramp and they were sorry she gave me the wrong number. They wanted to give me her real number but I IOD'ed them saying "Nah, its fine. If she really wanted to give me her number she would give me herself". Then I said I was going to meet my friends and left.

Went up to join the metal guys and danced abit with them. 2 girls(HB8 and HB7) came nearby to my left and started dancing. I just danced on my own space and did not really bother with them. The HB8 started dancing close to my friend so I thought she was interested in him. However, she did turn and look at me a few times. The guy that the HB8 was dancing with didn't make any moves on her. After 20mins the metal guys left so I was left alone dancing with those girls. I faced them and dance a little for 5 more mins before I took off.

I went downstairs and the 2 girls from last week called out to me again, this time Kara was there. She didn't look that happy when she saw me so it seemed a little awkward.
J: Fancy seeing you here again, how've you been?
K: Yea I'm alright.
J: You look like you had a tan, did you go for Stereosonic (some annual electronic music festival) today.
K: Yea I did. How about you what did you do today?
J: You wanna know? Lets go somewhere quite so we can talk.
K: (She looked uncertain) Err ok you lead.
J: Did you want to tell your friends that we're headed off for awhile?
(I turned to her friends and said that I was going to borrow her friend for awhile)
K: Ok lets go, you lead..
(I grabbed her hand but she pulled away. Then she said, "We're just friends you know". I looked at her and smiled then grabbed her by the arm and we went to a quieter corner)
J: Why are you so afraid of me hitting on you? Come on, I wasn't hitting on you.. (I negged her)
J: So whats been up from last week? ( I wanted her to say something about the fake number she gave me)
K: Not much just went home.
I showed her my hands which had scratches on them and told her that I was climbing a 40m tree today and it was very windy causing the tree to sway about 0.5m to the sides. Injected the fact that I was an adventerous person and thats what boys do. I saw that she wasn't looking at me but at the dancefloor when she was talking to me so I decided to try an opener again to capture her interest.
J: Did you see the fight going on outside? 2 girls were fighting over a guy named George... *tells the story*
K: *Nodding her head but still not looking at me*
(At this point, I decided to eject seeing that she wasn't interested in talking to me.)
J:Everything alright?
K: Yea just tired.
J: Okay I am going off to see my friends, I'll see you soon.
*She nodded happily and left*

I left for upstairs, hung around for a bit and came back down. Decided to buy a second drink for the night when I saw a friend I knew waving to me. I went over to join him, small talked abit and he introduced me to his friends which were from the band that just played. They went to the trance part of the club and I tagged along. Chatted with them and did some dancing when a french HB8 came up and started dancing too. I danced with her for 15mins injecting some small talk every now and then. I asked if she was with her boyfriend, she said no, single and enjoying life. I laughed. After dancing a little while more, she said she was going to meet someone and left.

I turned and went to talk to this girl that I know(HB7) who was with her friend (HB9). I talked and joked with them for awhile. The HB9 wasn't looking directly at me so I negged her and focused more on my friend. Then, to get the HB9 talking, I pulled the Jealous girlfriend opener. We talked for abit and she was a little tired so she sat down. I was about to sit beside her when HB7 cockblocked me and sat between us. I was a little pissed off at that. HB9 took out her phone and played with it. I knew I had lost the set then. They had to leave soon too which was a pity. Gave them both hugs and they left. Passed by Kara who was chatting happily with another guy.

I chatted with a few other people, did not open anymore sets. Then I decided to sit down on the couch and watch people. I was in a relaxed manner with my arms rested on the top of the couch and leaning backwards.

This girl(HB6) came up and sat close by. She had a teddy bear bag with her.
J: Why are you carrying a teddy bear to a place like this?
HB6: Oh its a bag.
J: Ooo.. I just thought it was really weird that you would bring a doll here. Anyway, can I ask a question? *asks about the sister/ tattoo story*
HB6: Get the hummingbird instead of the name. Trust me. I got a tatt about my ex too.
J: Do you really?
HB6: Yea *she stands up and lifts her shirt to reveal her tatt on her lower ribs*
J: Oh ok. Wow.. I just got a tatt myself and it is really itchy now.
HB6: Yea I hate it when it happens. ( She was not looking at me when I was talking to her)
J: I find it really weird that you are not looking at me when you talk. Do you have ADD or something?
HB6: No I don't.
J: What's been up today? Did you go for Stereosonic?
HB6: No I didn't. How about you?
J: Look at my hands. *Tells the tree climbing story*
HB6: Speaking of which, I was climbing a tree too but only 1 feet high.
J: Haha thats NOT high at all. So who are you here with?
HB6: No one, just came here alone..
J: Have you heard of ESP?
HB6: Yea the bar right?
J: No its something about telephatic communication. Come let me try this on you.
HB6: *Looks at me uncertainly* Oh ok..
J: Come give me your hands. * Hands my hands out and she places her hands on mine* Now think of a number for 1-4.
HB6: OK done.
J: Is it number 3?
HB6: Nope its 1.
J: Shit.. failed.. haha. That proves that ESP doesn't work.
(Again she didn't look at me while talking, except during the ESP phase. She kept looking towards the dancefloor)
J: Do you wanna dance?
HB6: Nah..
J: Yea its more comfortable here anyway.
(Silence for abit and then this guy rocks up and sits beside me on my left)
HB6: I like your glass.
Guy: Yea thanks.

The guy then looks at me and asks whats my game tonight? Honestly I was surprised that someone would know that I am PUA-ing. I said "Just watching people". He spends the next 45 mins talking to me about gaming. He doesn't know anything about Mystery's stuff and all but all based on experience and dressing up well. He said that there were 3 things to picking up girls, Confidence, Dressing and Not being afraid of rejection. He said that I had won 2/3 of the battle already,I was well-dressed and I had the right mindset of not caring for rejection, I just need more confidence. He mentioned also about 'being yourself' and 'boosting image' that women are morons because they believed it when he said his shoes are $800 Gucci loafers when it was actually only $40 leather shoes. He said it was all about portraying yourself outside. He talked about how women love men who are confident and those who take charge. He talked about how I should have played the game with the girl beside me, that I should bring in the conversation about her friends, and that I should be a good listener, to keep quiet and let the girl speak about herself. It was all good advice and I appreciated the fact that he came up to me and talked to me eventhough I was with a girl. In the end, he asked me to go shopping with him to work more on my clothing. I asked him why did he randomly come up to me. He said it was because I looked like a nice guy and he wants to help people out.

Areas that need work:
- More kino when dancing, to ask for her hand to dance. ( besides a few grinding, I don't think I had much kino at all. I suck at dancing anyway)
- More confidence
- Making the girl interested in talking to me. I feel that the girls are not looking at me enough when speaking and not asking me questions. I feel like I am the only one asking questions. I need to find a way to keep hold of their interest and keep them chasing after me instead of me trying to be needy.

To those reading my journal, I do appreciate constructive feedback.. Afterall ,we all only want to improve and strive to be better.

Some stuff about myself:
I am an Asian guy, tall about 6'1" and currently in Melbourne. I would be heading back to my country really soon though I would want to come back. I wear glasses. I like to consider myself as good-looking though in reality I might just be average. I have a positive attitude on life. I'd like to get with white chicks because I don't think I have much problems with asian ones, especially back in my home country because I am more comfortable with them. I like a challenge so I would want to start on with white girls.. I am a really nice guy, in looks and in character, and I am a really nice person when you get to know me. The thing is girls don't take the chance to get to know me well and that is the frustrating part. I have had relationships before, even sexual ones but all of them did not last long because of various reasons.

My goals:
1) Get a LTR
2) Get laid is secondary because what I really want is a relationship, getting laid is a bonus.
3) meet new people and getting real friends

Sorry for not updating for such a looooooong time.

I have returned to Malaysia and recently started Stylelife 30 day Challenge. So far so good, I'm up to Day 7 and it has already reduced my AA by quite a lot. I guess I just need to go out more and open more sets. Easiest way I found (especially for day game) is to open waiter, saleslady, promoters etc because they are the ones that are more willing to talk to you. For example, if I am in a shopping centre, I would warm up by opening a saleslady in a shop selling clothes. That would ease the tension of talking to other girls because you are getting into the talkative state even if its only with a HB you are not interested in. Once you break past the first few, you would be more confident on approaching other sets.

Some updates:
Mission Day 3
Movies:
1) Sherlock Holmes x2
2) Ghost Protocol

First time calling up random people and talking to them. Some were quite rude and slammed the phone down once I began asking my questions and others did not know about the latest movies available.

Fulfilled my mission so I went out to a bar later that night, where I hung out with my friends and we were singing along to the live band. Regretfully, AA still had the best of me that night and I did not approach anyone. There was a guy in the next table who was playing a game, and he went around the tables kissing girls on the cheek as his "punishment". I thought that it should be me doing it.. :/

Lesson to learn:
Get rid of fucking AA.

Mission Day 4
Went to a shopping centre during Christmas where I decided that I had to overcome my AA. Being Christmas I knew that it would be the best time to ask about clothing store recommendations. I dressed up real nice before I went.

Clothing Store Recommendations:
1) Guess/ Topman
2) (That shop over there.. opp Topman) People of Asia
3) Tommy Hilfiger

Began by opening a 2 set, HB4's as they were walking. I walked ahead of them and asked over the shoulder. I chose my first set to be one I would not ever date so that I can focus on overcoming AA first than attraction. It helped because I began approaching the next few sets more confidently, it broke the fear in me. One thing to learn is, do not take too long a break between sets. You need your momentum.

Next was a HB7 standing while playing with her phone. I asked her for a clothing store recommendation, but she said she didn't know. She said she was waiting for her friend. I could've gone on with the convo before her friend came (I saw them sitting down talking when I walked past, it was a boy, she seemed very much into him giving him IOIs everywhere but that is a non-issue), but for whatever reason, I decided to eject. Wished her Merry Christmas and thanked her then left.

The set after was HB8, again standing while playing with her phone. I couldn't hook her (she turned back playing with her phone after getting a recommendation) so I ejected.

Final set was HB8, she seemed to be a foreigner with her accent. Stood beside her up the escalator. I moved slightly to the middle so she would accidentally knock me with her shopping bags. Then I used that as an ice breaker to open. At first she didn't know of any shops to recommend, but I asked her to put herself in the position of buying a Christmas present for her bf, in which she replied without any hesitation, Tommy Hilfiger.. What a classy lady..

Lesson to learn:
I know I could've threaded more with each of them, but my focus was solely on completing the mission. I know I can do better.

Mission Day 6
I thought this mission was quite easy, I am more comfortable with giving compliments and ejecting. Complimented on more that was required from the mission.

Lesson to learn:
Be observant. You can use compliments as another thread or to break any awkward silences during your convo.

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You will always feel 10 times better after you approach.

I visited my relatives in Singapore and went out with my underage cousin at night for him to show me around. I brought him sarging to teach him a few PUA tricks. Before that, he saw me day game a girl while we were waiting at for a table at the restaurant. The hostess asked us to wait for a bit for an empty table and gave us a number. There were some stools outside the restaurant and there was a HB6.5 sitting reading a book. I had family members with me, my aunt, sister and cousin. My sister sat beside the HB6.5, so I grabbed an empty stool and inched my way in between her and my sister. I opened using a situational opener. At first, I asked my sister what number were we given, then turned and casually ask HB6.5 what her number was.

Me: What number did you get?
HB: number 3. And you?
Me: Oh I got number 5.. which mean you would be first.
HB: Nah , I am waiting for some friends so I think you would be first.
Me: (I used gambler's line) Hmm.. let me guess, you are having a 10 year school reunion and meeting up here..
HB: Haha.. nope, they are just Uni friends..

From there we talked about books that she reads, where is she from(she was from the same country I came from , just different states), studies etc..

At first she did not maintain eye contact very well, and I negged her, " You know it feels weird that you are not looking at me when you're talking," She laughed and then from then onwards she held eye contact with me. (IOI maybe?) She was smiling and laughing quite a lot while speaking to me and engaging in the convo too(IOI's too I guess)

I asked her to take me around, since I am not familiar with the area, and she said "Hahaha, but I don't even know your name?" I gave her my name. After a little while of chatting, her friend (a boy) came and started talking to her. I injected a few comments here and there to keep the conversation alive. Just before she left inside to her table, she shook my hand. She was about to turn when I pulled her hand towards me and managed to close with her email address (learnt that from David Deangelo because it is easier to give an email address than phone number). All these while my family members were sitting beside me. I was proud of myself because it is hard to game with family members around, moreover it was a day game.

Night game with my cousin was more interesting. We went to Clarke Quay. I opened random mixed sets using situational openers too (e.g. Do you know how to get to Club Helipad from here?) and a few 2-sets.. When we started, we had a little AA. We stood at a bar, talking to the bartender. There were 2 mixed sets seated at separate tables, one which had 5 good looking white guys and 2 HB9s who looked like they were russians. We did not dare open those sets. Then, a HB7 who looked a little older (prob in her 30s) who stood beside my cousin to order a drink. I asked my cousin to open her but he didn't want to. She looked really bored, and the club staff had to approach her to talk. They brought her inside the club but after awhile she came out again. Still we didn't talk to her. Then she sat at a table alone and ordered a drink. But still we did not open her. One reason would be that I did not like girls older than me by 9 over years. (I am 21 btw). After finishing our pint, we walked around the area twice and she was still there alone. I told my cousin, if i don't approach her that night, I would regret it. But still I did not.. We went to another open bar with a live band and sat at a table beside 2 HB9s, one who was a German and the other a German/French. After singing along to the few songs, I decided that if I did not approach, it would be a waste of time there. I told my wing the plan, take out his iPhone and place it on the table. Then I approached them.

Me: Do you mind taking a photo for the both of us?
HB9G: Yea sure.
me: *I hand the phone over* Err, you're sure you know how to use the camera right? (Mystery neg)
HB9G: Haha yea sure. *snaps photo*
me: Cool thanks, Hmm can we take a photo with you guys too?
HB9G: yea of course. *we hand the phone to the waitress to snap*
After taking the photo, HB9GF said to my cousin "hey give me your number and add me on FB. I want you to tag me in there."
Huge IOI, a HB asking for our numbers. At that time, I did not have a phone number anyway. I asked HB9G where she was from, while smoothly grabbing our chair and sitting down to lock in. It was a fun chat, I made them both laugh a lot. my cousin was still new to this so he did not engage them much, they were both listening intently to me. I found out that both of them were best friends so I did the best friend routine on them. Eventhough they were best friends, they were complete opposites; 1 likes cold weather, the other doesnt, 1 likes spicy food, the other doesnt, etc.. wonders how opposites attract. I forgot what we were talking about when we started talking about fights in clubs and I used the 2 girls fighting over a guy opener. They laughed loudly when I mentioned about the boob that popped out. This was a huge hooking point because HB9G kept recalling that and laughing about it. She even said she wanted to put it as a status on FB. An important point from this interaction was, I asked them if they were comfortable talking to random people. They replied it depends, but for our case, they were very happy because I was really funny, I know that humor is a very important part in hooking. I did some kino on HB9G because I did not want this to end in the LJBF zone. I rubbed my finger at HB9G's cheeks, touched her back, patted her shoulder. I should have hold her hands which i did not, only shook them. I did not use any kino routines which I should have. Since my cousin was new to this, he did not isolate his target and distracted her, so it felt a little weird that HB9GF always looking at us both. Another mistake made was we did not bounce the girls for food or even walk them home. It was getting late and the girls had to leave. We gave them both french goodbyes (learnt that from Style) and went on our separate ways. In the end, I did not regret not talking to the HB7 30yo because I would not have talked to these girls then.

Positive points:
-Good humor, made girls laugh a lot
- Used situational, spontaneous openers.
- Opened mixed sets and had decent day game
- email-close, fb and number-close

Negative points:
-Still had AA approaching to HB7 30yo and a few other HBs.
- Wing did not isolate and kino
- We did not bounce

Points to improve
- need to kino more
- Need to learn to bounce girls to a different location
- Learn to ask more intimate questions other than 'interview questions' like elicit value or NLP routines such as esp, The Cube, palm reading etc..( I have practiced it, but thought it was too corny to be used on strangers)
- need to man up and go in for the kiss once I see 3 IOIs. I would hate being known just as a nice friendly guy. As gambler calls it, I need to turn on seducing mode.

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If you TRY, you will have 50% chance of succeeding. If you DON'T TRY. you have 0% chance. - jsmyong55

You will always feel 10 times better after you approach.

Hey man..I see AA is getting the best of you sometimes. I had the same problem too. You should write on a paper this goal: approach each sarging night at least 5 sets. Approaching less then 5 sets is not enough. If you do this..after about 30-40 approaches you will have leaned how to deal with AA and will turn that in approach excitement -AE. I personally do at least 7 sets per night and I found out that the more I did the more I started closing. So you neet to implement the numbers in your game..keep going I see you're motivated! Hope I helped!

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Sure did. I think its easier to warm up by opening a few "unwanted" sets to get the ball rolling. I usually open bartenders, waitress etc because they were paid to talk to people.. Once I overcome the first few sets, you more used to talking and getting yourself in a talkative state. I do however tend to ask 'interview questions' when in the A2-A3 phase and that might bore some people off sometimes.

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If you TRY, you will have 50% chance of succeeding. If you DON'T TRY. you have 0% chance. - jsmyong55

You will always feel 10 times better after you approach.

Last night in Singapore. This time my cousin has to go to school the next day so he could not go out. I kept saying to myself that I should go out at night but when the time approached, I felt so comfortable at home, I didn't want to dress up and get out. Seeing the fact that it is a weekday, I thought it would be a waste of time going out because there wouldn't be anyone out. My aunt did ask me to go out too if not I would regret it..I dressed up, she gave me the house keys and drove me to Clarke Quay (same area as the previous night with heaps of bars and clubs). Once I was there, I got down and began to walk around. True enough the crowd was not as big as the previous night but at least there were people there. I walked around the area twice before and thought to myself, 'If I don't open any sets, it would be a waste of time. This is your last night out, I'd better go out and make it count'.

Stood in the middle of the area making a fake phone call while sneakily looking around for sets to open. I saw a huge group of foreign students of 25 (about 15 guys and 10 girls mostly HB 7-9) gathering beside where I was standing. They were all french students. I approached the bunch of guys, introduced myself and told them they look like nice people and a fun crowd. We began to talk and I asked if I could hang out with them. Of course they said yes. Together with the whole group, we went to buy drinks and chatted. Notice how I approached the guys first to build rapport before talking to any girls. They were all french and it was hard to remember their names, let alone to pronounce them. After chatting to the guys, I said Hi to a couple of girls from the group.and started talking to them. They did not see me as a threat now that I was friends with their guy friends. It was a surprise to them how I could just approach a random group and began making friends like how I did with them. Honestly, I am a friendly guy by nature so I can easily make friends. Most of them in the group were 2-3 years older than me. I chatted with a HB7 french whose name was Leah and I began to tease her that her when she told me her name meant little cow in Hebrew. She was one of the few girls that I was talking to most of the time that night. Later she had to leave with a few other girls because they were tired from the journey.They had just arrived that day. I receive french goodbyes from them. There was a HB8 Italian that I particularly liked. She was smilling a lot when talking. I asked her to teach me how to say "Your are pretty" in italian which she did and I said it to her. She replied "Gracias" with a huge smile. She also left quite early with the earlier mentioned group.

Soon there were only about 8 guys left and 2 girls (HB 8 and 9). By that time, it was 2.30am. We were about to head to the club when we were approached by a group of Americans (one HB6 and 3 guys). They asked if they could join us. I talked to the HB6 and kino-ed quite a lot by hugging her many times, putting my hands around her waist, kissing her cheek during my whole interaction with her, nothing sexual though. I later found out that she was a lesbian. Anyway, we went to the club and started dancing just having a good time. The 2 french girls began dancing and getting close contact with their french guy friends. Some of the guys also danced with 2 Filipino girls who were in the club too (very short HB5 and HB7). There was once that the french guys and girls started dancing on the table. When they were done, I helped the HB8 french down by holding her hand. I lifted her hands so she could do a little spin (as how Mystery does to lock-in). I did not know what to do after, so she left back to her friends. It seemed a little awkward. Later the whole group bounced to another club that had more people. I sat with the HB6 American and shared a jug of beer together while talking. She showed me the pic of her girlfriend (fucking gorgeous HB9) and she was to arrive in Singapore the next morning. After awhile, she got up to dance strutting her rave moves. The other American guy went along to join her. Then they began to make out. I wonder if that is cheating. I will use it as my next opener to see what response I get. (New opener learnt: I have a friend and she is a lesbian. Once I saw her making out with another guy. Is that considered cheating?). HB8 french began going up the table again to dance so I approached her. She pulled me up. I seem to have some problem with my dancing. We face the crowd and I begin by side-stepping and lightly knocking her on purpose to get some body contact. She must not have liked it because she immediately walked to the other side of the table to join her HB9 french friend was and gave her a hug, totally ignoring me. I acted as if I didn't care and continued dancing with the american guy. After 5 mins, we got tired of it and came down from the table. Hung around for another half an hour before going home. All in all I had a fun night getting to meet new people. I added them all on fb, and told them to look for me when they come to Malaysia for a holiday.

Positive points:
-Opened a huge set of 25 foreigners. Made friends with them and fb-closed them.
-Did kino the HB6 American quite alot, and managed to give her a peck on the cheek.

Negative points and lessons to learn:
- Need to improve on my dancing. I don't want to scare anyone away with my dancing.
- Need to kino-escalate more to build intimacy and go in for k-close. When HB8 french did a spin, I should have pulled her towards me to either hug me or to straightaway go in for the kiss.
She seems to be able to get close to all the other french guys, so I think she would be receptive to a kiss at the least.
- Did not talk to HB9 french at all eventhough she seems 'sluttier'. Also could've at least k-closed her if I built enough rapport and moved into the seductive phase
- Should've made a move on the HB6 American before the other American guy made out with her. They just met not too long too btw.. so they also had an equal chance as I did.

My game seems to have improved, I can build rapport. I need to really work on my kino-escalating. Touching a girl a few times is not sufficient, I need to bring her close and k-close.

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You will always feel 10 times better after you approach.

I am on a company trip now and we are all given a hotel room to ourselves. Most single staff were given single beds, but since my room wasn't ready when I arrived, I received 2 single beds. If I don't make full use of it, I am sure I would regret it. I see many foreigners sunbathing at the swimming pool, but most of them are in their 50s. I shall keep a lookout for younger women who are not with their families.

Quick update: I am going out with a bunch of girls from work. I don't think I should be gaming them though, lest it feels awkward at work. What say you?

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You will always feel 10 times better after you approach.

Hey, Why didn't you do the 3 second rule?

So far so good. Keep it coming. And I'd like to know more on day game, If you like to help. I'll share message you my private email ID.

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Hey, saw your link after you posted on a thread I posted on, anyways I read your first report and had some comments. I am not sure if you mastered these yet but it will help.

1) When you are grinding, and I assume that is what you are doing when you say dancing, work your hands slowly up her body, bring her hands in the air then go back down, slowly slide down to her ass, then her hands will go down and you do it again, this makes you the leader and she starts to dance to your rhythm.

Then after this grab her hands, (s/o to Valentyn) when she grabs back spin her around brush hair out of face, do a C like motion around her head and kiss her for like 3 secs then pull back, and she should bring you back in, if she doesnt, just go back into it, if she isnt ejecting your good.

2) When you enter the club or bar go to the first set and just talk about anything, could be mates, could be women, could be a fat chick or a gorgeous babe. Seriously just get yourself in the mood of talking. When I am expecting to go out on a night and I am with a AA friend I go to the mall and make him start singing and going up to strangers asking random questions just so he is out of that mood

3) I think that man was correct, you dont seem confident in yourself. For example that last set, she rejected your offer, and you agreed to it. Very AFC you gave into her frame and her decision.

4) With Kara just neg her when she isn't looking at you, try and relate the neg to something she is doing. Get her attention, you are a man, you are the prize, she should be staring at you. Great job on ejecting though shows you dont have time for the bs. Next time dont even say it, just leave. Why the fuck do you have to tell her your going.

5) The ESP game, sorry that failed, why I dont play that game. If I do a game it is the Cube or Box w.e I haven't done it in a while but you should try it.

6) If those two girls approached you and they are friendly with you, why dont you make them your pivet (I think that's what the lingo is for a woman wing). Ask them if they want to go around talking to people and make new friends, possibly dancing, or even pretend to be your girlfriend for a bit. What ever works. Sometimes I actually go to sets aiming just to be friends. I assume 1 hot friend has 10+ hot friends. So if I befriend her I get 10+ and a new friend too. Also its really strange but girls love being matchmakers, they always claim they can sense it. What ever haha

7) I love your roll off attitude, you simply do not care, but you should definitely try and make move moves on your sets, all you were doing as I read was dancing with some and maybe a bit of small chat. If you suck at DANCING why are you dancing, dance a bit, then pull em off and chat em up.

You said you were a nice guy, girls want to marry you, let them get the chance to know you. Build attraction, make them laugh, neg the hot target, then ask a question about her, and if she is with a set ask so how do you all know each other. If they all school mates, follow up what school, what major, then you can say oh I am a doctor, I save peoples life. I dont know what you do but yea. Then you multithread, ask if she is adventurous or likes doing outdoor things, if so tell your tree climbing story. Let her see you by you asking her about herself. Girls will talk then be like oh iver been talking the whole time what about you? kind of scenario.

9) Have fun, I really do love your vibe, you seem like a chiller, and you are lucky too have met that guy take the help. I hate when people in life dont take help from others. Seriously if someone offered me advice on any matter, if someone said mate I see you having trouble pissing, let me show you how, unless he was looking at my wang the whole time I would actually love to hear his story it would be fucking hilarious.

10) Enjoy your night and others will see it. I think that first sarge you were doing such and it came off, but you just need a bit of touch ups and you will be set.

I know this is a lot but that means more for you to read and think about and possibly improve.

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This FR is a few days old. Didn't have time to write it out.

I am still on my company trip, staying at a hotel at the beach. I'm all ready to day game at the beach. The swimming pool was lovely, and I enjoyed watching the people swim. As mentioned earlier, most were foreigners in 50s so I kept a close look out for any younger chicks to game. As I am walking across the pool, I see a HB8 walking in front of me. I begin increasing my walking speed and soon walked past her. I turn around and saw that she had stopped and she was looking at her phone. I braved myself and walked towards her. I said to myself that I would use a direct opener because I have never used a direct opener gaming.

Me: Hi. I just had to stop by and say hi because I thought you looked really cute. I would be kicking myself in the face if I didn't approach you.
HB: *smiles* thank you
Me: So where are you from?
HB: I'm from Canada..
Me: I see.. I'll have to go in a bit but I need to ask a really important question. And this relates to a serious life and death situation. Do you *pause* floss before or after you brush your teeth?(Styles dental opener. I am doing his 14 day kiss challenge btw)
HB: haha..I floss before. Why do you ask?
Me:*Quickly thinks of a root* The reason I ask, is because I was reading a magazine the other day, and they were debating on whether it is better to floss before or after you brush your teeth. I personally floss before and the magazine says that most people floss before but I'm just asking because some people do floss after they brush. I wanted to know if you were one of the weird people who do that.
HB: oo I see..
Me: So what are you up to?
HB: Well I'm just waiting for my BF to come down.
Me: Oh I see.. I have to go now. Thanks for your advice Bye
HB: Bye

Once I heard she had a bf, I quickly eject. I later see her sitting with her bf somewhere close by. I went to the beach to jet skit and ride the banana boat before talking a walk along the beach. I see an event happening at the next hotel and it was a wedding that had just taken place. I go up to the bride and groom to congratulate them, talked for a bit then went back to my hotel. As I am walking along the beach, I see 3 HB9 sunbathing lying on their front. I walk up to them, squatted down.

Me: Hi girls, I make it a point to say Hi to 3 of the most beautiful girls everyday. And you guys happen to be on my list today. Congratulations for making it. *all of them laugh and thank me*
I proceed to open with the dental floss opener again. Subtly, I sit down to lock in. All the girls are still lying down comfortably. I find out that the girls were from England. I use Mystery's routine (If you could be one thing in the world, what would you be? and don't say princess). I use the best friend routine. I neg one girl asking if her hair is a wig. She lets me touch her hair to see that its real. I false time constraint well.. at least 3 times throughout the whole conversation. I DHV myself saying that I am a friendly guy and like to meet new people. I told them about how I walked over to the next hotel and saw a wedding ceremony that had just taken place and how I am friendly enough to approach the bride and groom to wish them, and of my story of making friends with the french people. I ask if the girls were staying at my hotel but they say no, they are staying at a hotel in town. I tried to fb-close them but they say they do not add strangers so I gave them mine instead.

Went home got changed, went for dinner at Hard Rock Hotel. The theme was Rock and Roll and I even had a boa with me(peacocking) I see a HB8 at a bar, taking a photo of her HB7 as I was walking past and immediately approached them. They were both Aussies.
Me: Wow you have such a wide smile (what a stupid opener I know)
HB: err thanks.
False time constraint. I run dental floss routine. Another false time constraint. Best friend routine. hand on shoulder compliance test. false time constraint. Ask to hangout later. They decline. Neg HB7 about her hair. HB8 not looking at my direction, so I neg her too asking if she has ADD. Did some kino here and there. Managed to get their fb emails before leaving.

Looking back, I should have run a photo routine and asked to tag them on FB. Then I should have kino escalated,isolate and kissed the hotter one (HB8). Or I could have just kissed her on the spot. Throughout the whole interaction, I maintained confident body language, straight back and shoulder. I did not run any cold reading routines, and I should be practicing on them. I think it would turn the interaction up a notch.

Update: 3 English HBs did not add me on fb. The Aussies did, but deleted me off later. I will press on.

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You will always feel 10 times better after you approach.

Great opening in your last FR. Here's the thing...try to not Facebook Close your targets. If she doesn't give you her number there is something wrong here. I see you give FTC and you use indirect lines which is really good but I think you need to build a little more attraction before going for the close. How long have you talked to them? You also need to build comfort - rapport if you want them to give you their number..or else why would they?

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I think its quite useless to get their numbers because they are foreigners on holiday. Either they wouldn't have a local number or their phone wouldn't work overseas. It's much easier to email-close them. Some how, I am more attracted to picking up white chicks because they are much more open compared to the locals here. Not forgetting they are much prettier and too.

I think I usually talk to them for about 5 mins.. but the vibe I'm giving is more 'friendly and sociable' as compared to seductive..like a guy just up for a chat even though I do kino a little (patting on shoulder, touching her hair, lightly touching her face, nudging her, arms around waist rarely) I think I need to take a step up like holding her hands (by hands down compliance test or other routines), smelling her hair, arms around waist or over shoulder to lead to kissing. As per my other FR's, I think my problem is I am still not escalating enough..

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If you TRY, you will have 50% chance of succeeding. If you DON'T TRY. you have 0% chance. - jsmyong55

You will always feel 10 times better after you approach.

In my opinion..you say you come off more of a socially and friendly guy. This is a mistake. You do that only if you know the girl has attraction for you. Right now you're going in to comfort and try to build rapport without attraction and that puts you in the "friends zone" and you won't build any attraction at all. When you come in the set you should break rapport the soonest as possible. Breaking rapport creates attraction. Mystery calls it negging, DeAngelo calls it cocky funny, some gurus call it teasing. They all have the same purpose: breaking rapport. 5 min is really not enough for a solid number close (not flaky). 5min isn't even enough for building attraction. It takes usually 10-15min at least for a solid close..so I'm not surprised that they didn't gave you their number or their e-mail adress. In my opinion don't push for the e-mail..if the girl doesn't want to give her number you're out man..any girl who will want to see you will make sure you have the best way of contacting her. So take your time in a set don't rush your material and how do you know that she's attracted to you and you can start building rapport? The answer is: qualification. When she qualifies to you, you have attraction going on or else she wouldn't give a shit about you. Good luck in field!

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