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I hate reading this question, what do you think? Look matters to everyone, its called priming, you look at a person and judge. Your penis picks the choosing for a girl, as their vagina does for a man.

But like girls men can enhance their appearance.

1) Get a Tan
2) Whiten Teeth
3) New Haircut
4) Fresh Clothing
5) Get gum if needed (mints)
6) Work out
7) Keep yourself well groomed, woman like a man that is clean
8) Clean up your acne, PM me I will try and help with this
9) Eat healthy, you've been told since you were 5 to stop eating shit and eat your veggies, so do it!
10) Get your dick out of your hand and stop masturbating it affects your mentality. (this isnt appearance but it can affect you)

Those are like 10 things at least 5 are useful to help.

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Looks matter because of laws of association.

if a woman is with a good looking guy, it makes her value go up.

But people tend to find people who look equal to them attractive. So if u are busted looking, chances are only busted looking women will be interested.

All thuis stuff of game is basicly about making friendships with women, but for kissing and sex to happen she has to find u attractive.

We want to kiss a woman whose lips look soft and supple and who has nice teeth(teeth are SO important) even ugly people can look more kissable when they have a nice mouth of white teeth.

But regardless of what people say, being with somebody good looking makes us look good, thats why we go for it


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Looks matter because of laws of association.

if a woman is with a good looking guy, it makes her value go up.

But people tend to find people who look equal to them attractive. So if u are busted looking, chances are only busted looking women will be interested.

All thuis stuff of game is basicly about making friendships with women, but for kissing and sex to happen she has to find u attractive.

We want to kiss a woman whose lips look soft and supple and who has nice teeth(teeth are SO important) even ugly people can look more kissable when they have a nice mouth of white teeth.

But regardless of what people say, being with somebody good looking makes us look good, thats why we go for it
More importantly, physical looks are the first thing we see and they serve as fitness indicators to a woman (or man), and subconsciously give the message that they are of good breeding stock and indicate to a woman they're more likely to provide good genes.


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Yep, she starts thinking of making babies with his DNA, and he looks like Tom Cruise, thats better for her family than if he looks like Jay Leno.


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Looks don't really matter all that much. You just gotta have a lot of inner game, be confident, and know what you are doing. To be honest as long as you take care of yourself you should be ok.


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Looks don't really matter all that much. You just gotta have a lot of inner game, be confident, and know what you are doing. To be honest as long as you take care of yourself you should be ok.
Thats wishful thinking, not science. ill agree being confident will get you more dates and help u get laid more, but your not going to get a supermodel, if u are 5'6, bald fat and work at mcdonalds...its NEVER happening.


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the good thing about being good looking comes down to 2 things

1 girls might approach u or are more approachable

2 due to being good looking u'r confidence will be higher and ull know what to say much better cause u'r used to talking to ppl... mostly


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Looks don't really matter all that much. You just gotta have a lot of inner game, be confident, and know what you are doing. To be honest as long as you take care of yourself you should be ok.
Thats wishful thinking, not science. ill agree being confident will get you more dates and help u get laid more, but your not going to get a supermodel, if u are 5'6, bald fat and work at mcdonalds...its NEVER happening.
Yup. And Pickup Artist authors intentionally mislead readers into thinking no matter how unattractive they are, they too can pickup hot women. Over and over I read how some fat, ugly, bald guy who lives in his mom's basement (or truck) is having hot girls beg him to take them on dates. This is bullshit and misleading - it's used to create false hope to lure unattractive guys into buying their books, tapes, seminars etc. I see most of this PUA stuff as a marketing sham, much like Tony Robbins. I'm not saying there's 0 truth to them, but the ideas that do work have existed in the realm of psychology for decades, and the techniques these authors have 'pioneered' are mostly garbage.

Appeal to a person's sense of false hope and sell them on the promise of changing that for the better - great way to sell a product.


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the good thing about being good looking comes down to 2 things

1 girls might approach u or are more approachable

2 due to being good looking u'r confidence will be higher and ull know what to say much better cause u'r used to talking to ppl... mostly
I'm considered a very good looking man, but its not as though opportunities fall into my lap. I had the misconception that if I'm attractive, women should flock to me, but the reality is it doesn't work this way unless you're Bradley Cooper, perhaps.

I had to change my thinking considerably and this came about by challenging my core belief that "If I'm attractive, hot women will come to me" and replace it with something more realistic such as "As a male, I've been socialized as the 'aggressor', or more euphemistically, the "pursuer" and as such I have to take the risks, stick my neck out in approaching women". Ya, once in a while you'll have the odd women approach you, but you'll often find time and time again that they are the ones you aren't interested in.

Further, I wrestled with issues from my childhood for a number of years as I lived at home for a considerably long period of time and my mother treated me as her 'baby' (I'm the youngest of 4). Being infantalized by a parent can severely impede your ability to take ownership of your sexuality (it was so bad growing up that I was too embarrassed to date girls, let alone even TALK to one (would evoke a great deal of guilt even thinking about interacting with them); we are sexual being by nature, and I'm using this example to illustrate how aware you need to be of any limiting beliefs you might have and particularly how your environment may be impeding your growth as a sexual being (e.g. religious, parental, messages you've learned at school about sex, etc.).


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Looks don't really matter all that much. You just gotta have a lot of inner game, be confident, and know what you are doing. To be honest as long as you take care of yourself you should be ok.
Thats wishful thinking, not science. ill agree being confident will get you more dates and help u get laid more, but your not going to get a supermodel, if u are 5'6, bald fat and work at mcdonalds...its NEVER happening.
Yup. And Pickup Artist authors intentionally mislead readers into thinking no matter how unattractive they are, they too can pickup hot women. Over and over I read how some fat, ugly, bald guy who lives in his mom's basement (or truck) is having hot girls beg him to take them on dates. This is bullshit and misleading - it's used to create false hope to lure unattractive guys into buying their books, tapes, seminars etc. I see most of this PUA stuff as a marketing sham, much like Tony Robbins. I'm not saying there's 0 truth to them, but the ideas that do work have existed in the realm of psychology for decades, and the techniques these authors have 'pioneered' are mostly garbage.

Appeal to a person's sense of false hope and sell them on the promise of changing that for the better - great way to sell a product.
It's easy to sell to people who are desperate. this material will never stop selling cause people want to believe it. U keep seeing guys come in the thread saying looks dont matter.

U can be bald and fat if u already have attracted a woman, thats why people stay married even if they let themselves go, but trying to attract a hot woman from scratch, is going to take alot more than confidence.

what if everybody is confident? then who does the woman choose?


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Raphael.Rapoport and others.. You all forgot one important thing.. Woman`s mind doesn`t work the same as ours does!!
It`s all wrapped in this shitty thing called personality and looks it doesn`t fucking matter. But here`s the thing.. You have to be congruent with yourself. It doesn`t matter what you decide to do with yourself- as long as you are congruent with you and your actions, words, thoughts. Girls feel that, they fuckin smell it. That`s what important.
But being fashionable and taking the most basic care for yourself like eating healthy, showering on daily basis etc, that`s a whole other story and you should do that.
Agree with A_Steal

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Raphael.Rapoport and others.. You all forgot one important thing.. Woman`s mind doesn`t work the same as ours does!!
It`s all wrapped in this shitty thing called personality and looks it doesn`t fucking matter. But here`s the thing.. You have to be congruent with yourself. It doesn`t matter what you decide to do with yourself- as long as you are congruent with you and your actions, words, thoughts. Girls feel that, they fuckin smell it. That`s what important.
But being fashionable and taking the most basic care for yourself like eating healthy, showering on daily basis etc, that`s a whole other story and you should do that.
Agree with A_Steal
Womens minds have nothing to do with it. It's whats in their wiring that matters.

good looking= healthy=more opportunites for success for her offspring.

Tall=good protector and leader of men, and ensures survival of her offspring.

Wealthy/smart= good life for her offspring.

This idea that u just have to show confidence is bs. confidence doesnt have much value DNA wise, it's more of an after effect.

Maybe confidence can sway her to believe u are all those other things, but u cant escape nature.

the reason us guys will do almost anything, is cause we are programmed to drop out seed as often as possible. Its not practical but it is part of our wiring.


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So what you are trying to say is like men woman have a checklist, but a woman can marry and usually does marry a man who fits close to nothing on that checklist. A study was actually done to prove this. A woman stated before the test he was looking for a guy who had qualities as A,B,C, and D. LAter after the study she met a guy who had C E FG qualities, and when asked again she listed the qualities this man had rather than what she ideally wanted.

The truth is you dont have to be tall muscular or a brown headed european model with green eyes. Just be confident and show your true personality, and woman will love that.

Now I know some jackasses are gonna say show me this study but I read it a while ago, so if you want to learn more about it and discuss it with me via PM google it and then well chat.

So confidence and your PERSONALITY is key, that doesnt mean you should look like shit, try and help yourself a bit.

One last thing Sidtime, whens the last time you spoke to a girl on a deeper level than just sex? Looks dont matter, you make me laugh, that was a fucking joke right? If that helps you sleep at night then follow that philosophy but yea. Looks dont matter... cute one!

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So what you are trying to say is like men woman have a checklist, but a woman can marry and usually does marry a man who fits close to nothing on that checklist. A study was actually done to prove this. A woman stated before the test he was looking for a guy who had qualities as A,B,C, and D. LAter after the study she met a guy who had C E FG qualities, and when asked again she listed the qualities this man had rather than what she ideally wanted.

The truth is you dont have to be tall muscular or a brown headed european model with green eyes. Just be confident and show your true personality, and woman will love that.

Now I know some jackasses are gonna say show me this study but I read it a while ago, so if you want to learn more about it and discuss it with me via PM google it and then well chat.

So confidence and your PERSONALITY is key, that doesnt mean you should look like shit, try and help yourself a bit.

One last thing Sidtime, whens the last time you spoke to a girl on a deeper level than just sex? Looks dont matter, you make me laugh, that was a fucking joke right? If that helps you sleep at night then follow that philosophy but yea. Looks dont matter... cute one!
Interesting stuff about the checklist. Aren't most guys' checklists just that the girl is beautiful and has a nice body, and isn't a homicidal psycho? Anything else is just a bonus. After all, I can't imagine any guy would turn down a beautiful HB10 just because she was thick or ditzy or something. :S


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I would 100% say no to a HB 10 if she was dumb, why would I want to date a girl who is retarded, I actually enjoy holding s conversation which doesnt revolve around the prada purse she just bought or how her gucci looks like channel.

If I just want to hook up of course not, but still, I hate hooking up with dumbasses cause you still need to talk to them to get to the point, and if you want more then, well yea problem above.

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