hey rye. its great that ure doing this. I have a question.

So im in high school and there is this girl ive been running game for like 1 month now. I have her number, we hangout, we flirt and she lets me touch her like anywhere( except boobs and crotch). Well the sistuation is even though she is a wild girl, she still a virgin, and im trying to get laid with her.

Is there anything i could do to get me closer to getting laid with her?
thx.

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Well, the first step is to take it out of the workplace if you are willing to risk a workplace romance. You need to tell her that you're heading to the mall, or going across the street for a pint and that she should tag along. Once you have her outside of work, you just be interesting, demonstrate higher value and apply kino. All very broad terms, but with something as broad as your question, unfortunately that's all I can give you, without giving an entire step by step on pickup.

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An important part to this is whether you are a virgin as well, or not?

Men and women think about their own virginity in a different light. To both sexes, its somewhat of a curse, something to be gotten over and done with, but to women, its something more as well. Women may want to be done with their virginity, but they also treasure it, because it is a physical remnant of their virtue and purity as well as a bunch of things that I fear I will never understand because I am not female myself.

To get a girl that treasures her virginity and is afraid of losing it, to let herself be with you, you need to make her feel safe and comfortable. You need to make her attracted to you and want you badly, but if she doesn't feel safe that you won't just run away after you get what you want and that you will take your time and make it special and that it will be about her as much as it is about you, then you won't get her to have sex with you.

I'd personally suggest that you be romantic if you're interested in getting with this girl, because that generally shows the interest that a girl looks for in this circumstance. You will be displaying that you want a long term relationship though, so if you're not interested in that, then maybe this isn't something you want to try to accomplish. Whatever you do, don't try to get her drunk, because that will end up just making things complicated and she might end up changing how she feels and feeling raped afterwards. Taking someone's virginity is a serious thing and shouldn't just be done to add a trophy to your case, so make sure your intentions are good.

I'm gonna consult some female friends and post some more info though.

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So in a situation where a girl has made it obviously clear she is not interested in you, is it okay to inquire why? Even if she was interested in you at some point?

I know that "we" are supposed to be a prize...if they don't want the prize, whatever...move on. But for learning purposes and self improvement, would it be fine to ask a girl you got shut down by (or even a girl you got dumped by) why she is not into you?

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If you ask her in a way that demonstrates that it isn't because you are trying to win her over, but because you want to know for future reference, then girls will often tell you, in order to help you out in the future. Just because a girl isn't interested, doesn't make her a bitch or anything (sure some are, but not always), maybe you just didn't run good game and didn't flip any attraction switches, that's your fault, not hers. If she's not a bitch, if she just wasn't attracted, but is an otherwise good girl, then she'll usually want to help you with getting a girl if you came off as a good guy that just isn't attracting girls. These girls can make great pivots too!

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Hey Rye,

I'm trying out C&F now in my sarges. Couple of questions:

1) I wear glasses. Sometimes I wear contacts. How different is it when I do C&F with glasses as opposed to without?

2) Should I do C&F in a mixed group of all ages and sexes? Say there's a family gathering, and there's 2HBs, a couple of older women, 2 guys, 1 AMOG, a couple of kids, etc...should I go C&F?

3) I am OK with my calibrating, but say I go too far for someone with my C&F. Options?

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Hey Rye,

Thanks for doing this we all appreciate it. Resepect.

I have a couple of questions:

1) What are 3 of your favorite negs?
2) What are 3 of your favourite ways to demonstrate or DHV Routines?
3) What are 3 of your favourite ways to build comfort?

Thanks mate,

cheers

Yea, I wasn't implying any negativity towards the girl. I was sincerely wondering if it was okay to inquire; and someone obviously didn't run a good game if she isn't into you....

So how would you go about asking this? "hey, for informational purposes only ;p I was wondering why this didn't work out - what I need to improve upon and what you found to be my negative qualities?"

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1) I also wear glasses, but wear contacts if I'm going out anywhere that isn't just getting groceries or something like that. I find that people seem to tolerate more bluntly cocky stuff from people without glasses. I'm thinking that this is a combination of them subconsciously/consciously thinking that with glasses you are trying to compensate by being "in their face" and that they perceive you as being smarter because you are wearing glasses and so they think you don't need to be as cocky because they already hold you in higher standing and it just makes you seem conceited. There's probably some influence from just being more appealing looking without glasses too and the "cocky" attitude looking more fitting.

2) I'm always cocky/funny and I get good results. You just need to calibrate differently depending on the group, but yeah, I would use cocky/funny with that set. You can create "in-jokes" using C/F too, so you make the adults laugh and the kids don't know what's going on, works great with mixed sets with different ages and sexes, because you can always identify with whatever obstacles you want and make jokes with them that the targets don't understand and it gives you social proof, as well as being a neg.

3) Over negging is something that you basically just learn how to avoid through experience. I think the best way to deal with it if you are invested in a set/target though, is to use a mild compliment, or appologize and make it clear and you now know where their boundaries lie and you won't cross them again.

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Thanks for the props man, I always 'preciate em.

1) I don't really use canned negs, but themes that I like are:

1.1) "God, you're so rude! I can't believe you said that to me! " Lots of over acting. You want to pretend that you're offended and let them know you're just pretending. Almost always gets a punch of some kino.

1.2) Me: "Oh I see, you're just boring. Gotcha."
HB: "I am not!"
Me: "Alright, what tricks do you do?"/"Tell me something interesting or entertaining about yourself then."

1.3) "Texting in bar? Are you THAT bored? Not enough interesting happening around you?"

2) I just take charge of any conversation, that's a DHV. I then tell them my views on the subject and I say them in a way that anyone, no matter what their stance on the topic, can at least respect my thoughts on it. I also like telling a girl to think of 3 intersting things using that neg and then tell her I'll be back in 5 and she is gonna have to entertain me.

3) I like to find out an interest of hers and show that I respect it in some way. Leaving your drink with a girl works well for showing that you feel comfortable with her, which in turn makes her comfortable with you. Another good one is to not lie, if you say something mean it, because your body language and tone will tell them that you're lying and make them uncomfortable, even if only at a subconscious level.

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I didn't think you meant it in a negative way, I just mean that women will be receptive as long as you are demonstrating to them that you are interested for your own personal growth.

I would say something like, "So I'm curious. What could I have done differently that would have made me more attractive." By saying it like this, you leave their personal feelings for you out of it and they won't take it as, "BUT WHY?! PLEASE LIKE ME!!!!" Instead, they will just think that you are trying to be an appealing and attractive person and women love to make men more attractive.

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Thank you buddy. Yeah Im learning that you can DHV by just being confident and having great body language and delivery.

ah so i asked the question...just like you phrased it
and she is like

"what!?, who asks that?"

reply "uhm...well this guy right here. figure its good to get a female perspective every once in a while"

her: "lol, i dont know what to tell you about the attractive thing"

then wait! as I am thinking it is a complete bust and she is weirded out and embarrassed for being put on the spot

she asks "but what about me...what could I have done/do?"


so I tell her ill call and then we will talk about whatever. she makes some lame ass excuse that she cant talk on the phone. so i have to do it online.

I think i am going to do it online, or maybe get her back on the phone. who knows.

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That's good. See how just by showing that you cared about being a better man, you DHVed and made her instantly more attractive, especially because you didn't back down.

Remember the key to asking that question is delivery and being in control of the frame by showing that you aren't bothered by her turning down your advances. Great job though!

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Hey Rye Lee, I wanted to get your opinion on this. This is also posted under "Sticking points" as well. Thanks.

In a situation like this, what would you do if you wanted to take this girl out?

I noticed a HB7 in one of my classes looking at me the last week or two. I've gotten a few IOIs from her.
She gave me a really good IOI today. I started talking to her today in class and I showed her a sheet of paper with some equations on it that someone gave to me. She asked me if I could e-mail it to her and she wrote down her e-mail address.

I don't have the list saved as a computer file, it's a list that's not extremely long (1-2 pages long). So basically, if I wanted too, I could say something like "I don't have this on my computer and neither does the person who gave it to me. I can make you a copy if you want."

The thing is, I'm really bad at communicating online. It's a distant form of communication and I tend to get bad results when the initial follow up is over the internet.

Please let me know what approach you would take. Any tips on how to make the writing more seductive in this situation would be great as well. Thanks a lot!