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I'm in the Priva Membership Zone...if I seriously see you put another topic like this I'm going to talk with some moderators I know to get you banned. Are you seriously around 50 years old?? You're a joke man..I have no respect for you. At 50 years old you spend your time bullshitting on a forum who tries to help guys become a better version of themselves and finding someone nice to go out with. Hahahah wtff..I cant imagine an old man spending all his day and replying to people with the same stupid arguments. Because of your own failure you want to bring other people down. Fine man..don't sign for a forum to try to help people if that's not what you're into. Go find yourself a women in your life at your age you're supposed to have one. This is really funny if you actually don't have a girlfriend haha I would understand perfectly your situation of hatin :wink:
Awwww somebody got his feelers hurt. So you learned you dont know everything, you learned that people read the bard that gets written here while they are trying to sift out the bs from the factual...and you're not helping.

Im the same age as any of the dudes who wrote the frikon books u preach about.

Mystery is my age, Neil Straus is a couple years younger. And ross Jefries...everybody is younger than him.

All u can do is call me old when u cant win an argument.

All us experts can take u to school.

But ill leave u alone, I see you're rattled and unsure


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I've had the same fear as the subject of this thread. It always hits me when I have a string of bad luck or start to feel lonely. But overall, I believe it does work just by the proof of all those who have risen from socially awkward to MPAUs. I'll keep at it and let you know if I ever make it to the higher ranks.


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How about if it worked way before you even know what it was?

I have always been somewhat of a natural where I could talk to anyone about ANYTHING, i can make instant connections with just about anyone. But when i was younger i didn't have a clue on how to read women. Later on in life i learned by being a wing man to a friend. After years of practice i noticed a trend and eventually developed my own skills as someone who was after women.

I have only discovered this site and all the terms on this site/books/etc in the last 2 years. So when i describe to my friends what i went through i actually can explain it easier using some of the jargon on this site. So i believe that it is not all BS, sure some things may seem far fetched but to say that nothing works it just can't be true.


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Stop being so pessimistic. Study psychology enough and maybe you'll understand that it's not about a woman either liking you or not when you meet.

Men have it much easier then women do when it comes to creating attraction and escalating into something more because looks aren't nearly as important to women as their looks are important to us.

As long as you know how to dress and keep in style, be well groomed, clean and smell good, you have the potential to attract lots of women. I see fat guys and some betas going out with hb7 and I'm sure it's cause of their personalities and charm.

Another thing you need is good body language and as long as you can move your body like any other person, then you have the potential to improve your body language to the point that it's as good as a celebrity.

Next is your voice/tonality. which some people have more trouble with then others starting out, but in most cases you can fix this as well.

Last is your personality. You need to know and practice on being charming, seductive, funny, etc. and these are all skills any average men can attain if they work on it.

If an average guy meets an HB8 somewhere, even if she's a little attracted, what do you think will happen when a pua meets her later? Beautiful women meet guys all the time so why would she go out with an average guy who still needs to sort his shit out, when she can go out with a PUA who knows how to read a woman well and escalate accordingly, say and do interesting things that most men would not. Make her laugh (it's usually easier then you think), has high social intelligence aka. he knows how to plow through the inevitable shit tests and demonstrate his dominance and leadership. That's the difference between a PUA and some guy you meet everyday.

Openers and routines are only good for beginners and some intermediates. All successful PUAs become naturals and that usually takes years of hard work and perseverance. They have so much experience in the field with all types of women, they have tested different openers, strategies from beginning to end (lay/relationship) learned from mistakes, and are so used to going through the motions that they have unbreakable confidence and are ready for anything.

By the way, even the best puas know that you can't get any girl you want because some don't want a guy at a particular time, had a bad day, or they could be taken already (what a shock, a beautiful woman is taken). Now you might feel bitter because you're old and you seem damaged a bit as well, so after all this you can decide to give up and take the easy and least rewarding route, or you can keep working on yourself and your game until you become content and obtain real happiness in your life. THE CHOICE IS YOURS TO MAKE!!


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pua is scam and its losers teaching losers. read Intimate Connections by Dr Burns (1985) and follow the advice. you might not start dating (i have not really) but my life has really improved


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How about if it worked way before you even know what it was?

I have always been somewhat of a natural where I could talk to anyone about ANYTHING, i can make instant connections with just about anyone. But when i was younger i didn't have a clue on how to read women. Later on in life i learned by being a wing man to a friend. After years of practice i noticed a trend and eventually developed my own skills as someone who was after women.

I have only discovered this site and all the terms on this site/books/etc in the last 2 years. So when i describe to my friends what i went through i actually can explain it easier using some of the jargon on this site. So i believe that it is not all BS, sure some things may seem far fetched but to say that nothing works it just can't be true.
Some stuff is based on real science, most of it is based on crappola.

People want to believe they can get lots of women, so they will believe it no matter what.


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Stop being so pessimistic. Study psychology enough and maybe you'll understand that it's not about a woman either liking you or not when you meet.

Men have it much easier then women do when it comes to creating attraction and escalating into something more because looks aren't nearly as important to women as their looks are important to us.

As long as you know how to dress and keep in style, be well groomed, clean and smell good, you have the potential to attract lots of women. I see fat guys and some betas going out with hb7 and I'm sure it's cause of their personalities and charm.

Another thing you need is good body language and as long as you can move your body like any other person, then you have the potential to improve your body language to the point that it's as good as a celebrity.

Next is your voice/tonality. which some people have more trouble with then others starting out, but in most cases you can fix this as well.

Last is your personality. You need to know and practice on being charming, seductive, funny, etc. and these are all skills any average men can attain if they work on it.

If an average guy meets an HB8 somewhere, even if she's a little attracted, what do you think will happen when a pua meets her later? Beautiful women meet guys all the time so why would she go out with an average guy who still needs to sort his shit out, when she can go out with a PUA who knows how to read a woman well and escalate accordingly, say and do interesting things that most men would not. Make her laugh (it's usually easier then you think), has high social intelligence aka. he knows how to plow through the inevitable shit tests and demonstrate his dominance and leadership. That's the difference between a PUA and some guy you meet everyday.

Openers and routines are only good for beginners and some intermediates. All successful PUAs become naturals and that usually takes years of hard work and perseverance. They have so much experience in the field with all types of women, they have tested different openers, strategies from beginning to end (lay/relationship) learned from mistakes, and are so used to going through the motions that they have unbreakable confidence and are ready for anything.

By the way, even the best puas know that you can't get any girl you want because some don't want a guy at a particular time, had a bad day, or they could be taken already (what a shock, a beautiful woman is taken). Now you might feel bitter because you're old and you seem damaged a bit as well, so after all this you can decide to give up and take the easy and least rewarding route, or you can keep working on yourself and your game until you become content and obtain real happiness in your life. THE CHOICE IS YOURS TO MAKE!!
U got it all down dont ya. Now go out in the real world and do it. Meet me at a club and well test our game.

Why is it so easy to believe somebody when they say it works, but u refuse to believe somebody who says it doesnt?

answer, because you want to believe it.

Of course, being social will get you more women, but not by wearing a peacock item, palm reading, dhv stories and palm reading.

and this idea that it all is designed to make you a better person...lol

yeah the thread about "how to ask for head" or asking for a threesome, is all making u a better more happy person.

It's for the low class, guys with nothing else going for them, and is designed to get women with the same level of class.

As I have said there are lot of programs that are designed to make one more social and help them get out and meet people, but they dont involve peacocking,
or wingmen, or dhv storie, or negging or anything like that. those are all
devices to get a womans attention, not to make u a better person.


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so has anyone on this forum experienced crazy results like dating way above your level regularly?


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It's funny how people who don't believe are the ones that actually never went out for 3 months in a row practicing the technique. Why to refuse somebody who says it doesn't work? Because people MPUAS like Mystery & AFC Adam are gaining more than a million each year with teaching this art to other guys. Do you seriously think if it was a scam that after maybe a year or so..nobody would pay for the seminars? You guys are just so lazy to get your ass off your couch and start learning game structure and stick to method that you blame it on something: ah it doesn't work! And you know why you think that?? Because you never actually tried...soo now you take the easy road. It seems that it shouldn't be working so fuck that I'm not wiling to make an effort. All the people that think that Pick up is just about getting girls..sorry guys you haven't at all taking this seriously to see results. I know people who tell me "Yeah man I know how to game let's meet and you'll see" Guys I go out with them and they make 2 approaches..that they cant even talk more than 3 minutes. All of you who think a method doesnt work are the same. You're just some lazy ass guy who doesn't want to even try to test it if it works or not. I dare you read my journal and please shut your mouth after that. Look at the progress I made in fucking 4 months. Last month I juggled 9 girls wanting me by the way. Please do not come and tell me I'm fake too lol..read my journal and be silenced. A guy challenged my wing 2 weeks ago who thought this was bullshit. My wing beat the shit out of him the guy didn't know on what planet he was..

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Stop being so pessimistic. Study psychology enough and maybe you'll understand that it's not about a woman either liking you or not when you meet.

Men have it much easier then women do when it comes to creating attraction and escalating into something more because looks aren't nearly as important to women as their looks are important to us.

As long as you know how to dress and keep in style, be well groomed, clean and smell good, you have the potential to attract lots of women. I see fat guys and some betas going out with hb7 and I'm sure it's cause of their personalities and charm.

Another thing you need is good body language and as long as you can move your body like any other person, then you have the potential to improve your body language to the point that it's as good as a celebrity.

Next is your voice/tonality. which some people have more trouble with then others starting out, but in most cases you can fix this as well.

Last is your personality. You need to know and practice on being charming, seductive, funny, etc. and these are all skills any average men can attain if they work on it.

If an average guy meets an HB8 somewhere, even if she's a little attracted, what do you think will happen when a pua meets her later? Beautiful women meet guys all the time so why would she go out with an average guy who still needs to sort his shit out, when she can go out with a PUA who knows how to read a woman well and escalate accordingly, say and do interesting things that most men would not. Make her laugh (it's usually easier then you think), has high social intelligence aka. he knows how to plow through the inevitable shit tests and demonstrate his dominance and leadership. That's the difference between a PUA and some guy you meet everyday.

Openers and routines are only good for beginners and some intermediates. All successful PUAs become naturals and that usually takes years of hard work and perseverance. They have so much experience in the field with all types of women, they have tested different openers, strategies from beginning to end (lay/relationship) learned from mistakes, and are so used to going through the motions that they have unbreakable confidence and are ready for anything.

By the way, even the best puas know that you can't get any girl you want because some don't want a guy at a particular time, had a bad day, or they could be taken already (what a shock, a beautiful woman is taken). Now you might feel bitter because you're old and you seem damaged a bit as well, so after all this you can decide to give up and take the easy and least rewarding route, or you can keep working on yourself and your game until you become content and obtain real happiness in your life. THE CHOICE IS YOURS TO MAKE!!
U got it all down dont ya. Now go out in the real world and do it. Meet me at a club and well test our game.

Why is it so easy to believe somebody when they say it works, but u refuse to believe somebody who says it doesnt?

answer, because you want to believe it.

Of course, being social will get you more women, but not by wearing a peacock item, palm reading, dhv stories and palm reading.

and this idea that it all is designed to make you a better person...lol

yeah the thread about "how to ask for head" or asking for a threesome, is all making u a better more happy person.

It's for the low class, guys with nothing else going for them, and is designed to get women with the same level of class.

As I have said there are lot of programs that are designed to make one more social and help them get out and meet people, but they dont involve peacocking,
or wingmen, or dhv storie, or negging or anything like that. those are all
devices to get a womans attention, not to make u a better person.
wait there buddy, when did I say you need peacokking, dhv stories and canned routines? I said they are good for beginners to get them started and gain experience so in the end they can become congruent with who they are at their best.

Your problem is that you define PUA by little games and canned material where in fact the core values of being a PUA is about becoming your best self, understanding social dynamics and being able to successfully execute upon it by building attraction, comfort and seduction.

All good PUA methods share the same core values. Like I said, being a successful/master PUA means you end up being a natural and ready for anything. If you can't understand this, then there is nothing left to argue.


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It's funny how people who don't believe are the ones that actually never went out for 3 months in a row practicing the technique. Why to refuse somebody who says it doesn't work? Because people MPUAS like Mystery & AFC Adam are gaining more than a million each year with teaching this art to other guys. Do you seriously think if it was a scam that after maybe a year or so..nobody would pay for the seminars? You guys are just so lazy to get your ass off your couch and start learning game structure and stick to method that you blame it on something: ah it doesn't work! And you know why you think that?? Because you never actually tried...soo now you take the easy road. It seems that it shouldn't be working so fuck that I'm not wiling to make an effort. All the people that think that Pick up is just about getting girls..sorry guys you haven't at all taking this seriously to see results. I know people who tell me "Yeah man I know how to game let's meet and you'll see" Guys I go out with them and they make 2 approaches..that they cant even talk more than 3 minutes. All of you who think a method doesnt work are the same. You're just some lazy ass guy who doesn't want to even try to test it if it works or not. I dare you read my journal and please shut your mouth after that. Look at the progress I made in fucking 4 months. Last month I juggled 9 girls wanting me by the way. Please do not come and tell me I'm fake too lol..read my journal and be silenced. A guy challenged my wing 2 weeks ago who thought this was bullshit. My wing beat the shit out of him the guy didn't know on what planet he was..

Eventually u will get to my level.


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Stop being so pessimistic. Study psychology enough and maybe you'll understand that it's not about a woman either liking you or not when you meet.

Men have it much easier then women do when it comes to creating attraction and escalating into something more because looks aren't nearly as important to women as their looks are important to us.

As long as you know how to dress and keep in style, be well groomed, clean and smell good, you have the potential to attract lots of women. I see fat guys and some betas going out with hb7 and I'm sure it's cause of their personalities and charm.

Another thing you need is good body language and as long as you can move your body like any other person, then you have the potential to improve your body language to the point that it's as good as a celebrity.

well then, why are you still on the board? shouldnt u be out with some of the hundreds of women u can get?

Next is your voice/tonality. which some people have more trouble with then others starting out, but in most cases you can fix this as well.

Last is your personality. You need to know and practice on being charming, seductive, funny, etc. and these are all skills any average men can attain if they work on it.

If an average guy meets an HB8 somewhere, even if she's a little attracted, what do you think will happen when a pua meets her later? Beautiful women meet guys all the time so why would she go out with an average guy who still needs to sort his shit out, when she can go out with a PUA who knows how to read a woman well and escalate accordingly, say and do interesting things that most men would not. Make her laugh (it's usually easier then you think), has high social intelligence aka. he knows how to plow through the inevitable shit tests and demonstrate his dominance and leadership. That's the difference between a PUA and some guy you meet everyday.

Openers and routines are only good for beginners and some intermediates. All successful PUAs become naturals and that usually takes years of hard work and perseverance. They have so much experience in the field with all types of women, they have tested different openers, strategies from beginning to end (lay/relationship) learned from mistakes, and are so used to going through the motions that they have unbreakable confidence and are ready for anything.

By the way, even the best puas know that you can't get any girl you want because some don't want a guy at a particular time, had a bad day, or they could be taken already (what a shock, a beautiful woman is taken). Now you might feel bitter because you're old and you seem damaged a bit as well, so after all this you can decide to give up and take the easy and least rewarding route, or you can keep working on yourself and your game until you become content and obtain real happiness in your life. THE CHOICE IS YOURS TO MAKE!!
U got it all down dont ya. Now go out in the real world and do it. Meet me at a club and well test our game.

Why is it so easy to believe somebody when they say it works, but u refuse to believe somebody who says it doesnt?

answer, because you want to believe it.

Of course, being social will get you more women, but not by wearing a peacock item, palm reading, dhv stories and palm reading.

and this idea that it all is designed to make you a better person...lol

yeah the thread about "how to ask for head" or asking for a threesome, is all making u a better more happy person.

It's for the low class, guys with nothing else going for them, and is designed to get women with the same level of class.

As I have said there are lot of programs that are designed to make one more social and help them get out and meet people, but they dont involve peacocking,
or wingmen, or dhv storie, or negging or anything like that. those are all
devices to get a womans attention, not to make u a better person.
wait there buddy, when did I say you need peacokking, dhv stories and canned routines? I said they are good for beginners to get them started and gain experience so in the end they can become congruent with who they are at their best.

Your problem is that you define PUA by little games and canned material where in fact the core values of being a PUA is about becoming your best self, understanding social dynamics and being able to successfully execute upon it by building attraction, comfort and seduction.

All good PUA methods share the same core values. Like I said, being a successful/master PUA means you end up being a natural and ready for anything. If you can't understand this, then there is nothing left to argue.
As long as you know how to dress and keep in style, be well groomed, clean and smell good, you have the potential to attract lots of women. I see fat guys and some betas going out with hb7 and I'm sure it's cause of their personalities and charm.


so what is holding YOU up. Its a good thing being fat and bald wont hurt ya huh>

LOL


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Who said anything is holding me up? I'm just making a point about being a PUA. It's like talking to a wall, what a waste of my time. Yo good luck in life, it's obvious you got issues and have nothing better to say.

PS. I'm a bodybuilder and train in mixed martial arts so I wasn't referring to myself when I said fat people can pick up beautiful women, although I still stand by that statement as it's been proven over and over. Nice attempt at reading between the lines though


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I just wanna share my view. PUA stuff works. I was an afc 9 months ago but now Ive improved my game. Tested and proven. All you need to do is believe. =)

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