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Stop being so pessimistic. Study psychology enough and maybe you'll understand that it's not about a woman either liking you or not when you meet.
Men have it much easier then women do when it comes to creating attraction and escalating into something more because looks aren't nearly as important to women as their looks are important to us.
As long as you know how to dress and keep in style, be well groomed, clean and smell good, you have the potential to attract lots of women. I see fat guys and some betas going out with hb7 and I'm sure it's cause of their personalities and charm.
Another thing you need is good body language and as long as you can move your body like any other person, then you have the potential to improve your body language to the point that it's as good as a celebrity.
well then, why are you still on the board? shouldnt u be out with some of the hundreds of women u can get?
Next is your voice/tonality. which some people have more trouble with then others starting out, but in most cases you can fix this as well.
Last is your personality. You need to know and practice on being charming, seductive, funny, etc. and these are all skills any average men can attain if they work on it.
If an average guy meets an HB8 somewhere, even if she's a little attracted, what do you think will happen when a pua meets her later? Beautiful women meet guys all the time so why would she go out with an average guy who still needs to sort his shit out, when she can go out with a PUA who knows how to read a woman well and escalate accordingly, say and do interesting things that most men would not. Make her laugh (it's usually easier then you think), has high social intelligence aka. he knows how to plow through the inevitable shit tests and demonstrate his dominance and leadership. That's the difference between a PUA and some guy you meet everyday.
Openers and routines are only good for beginners and some intermediates. All successful PUAs become naturals and that usually takes years of hard work and perseverance. They have so much experience in the field with all types of women, they have tested different openers, strategies from beginning to end (lay/relationship) learned from mistakes, and are so used to going through the motions that they have unbreakable confidence and are ready for anything.
By the way, even the best puas know that you can't get any girl you want because some don't want a guy at a particular time, had a bad day, or they could be taken already (what a shock, a beautiful woman is taken). Now you might feel bitter because you're old and you seem damaged a bit as well, so after all this you can decide to give up and take the easy and least rewarding route, or you can keep working on yourself and your game until you become content and obtain real happiness in your life. THE CHOICE IS YOURS TO MAKE!!
U got it all down dont ya. Now go out in the real world and do it. Meet me at a club and well test our game.
Why is it so easy to believe somebody when they say it works, but u refuse to believe somebody who says it doesnt?
answer, because you want to believe it.
Of course, being social will get you more women, but not by wearing a peacock item, palm reading, dhv stories and palm reading.
and this idea that it all is designed to make you a better person...lol
yeah the thread about "how to ask for head" or asking for a threesome, is all making u a better more happy person.
It's for the low class, guys with nothing else going for them, and is designed to get women with the same level of class.
As I have said there are lot of programs that are designed to make one more social and help them get out and meet people, but they dont involve peacocking,
or wingmen, or dhv storie, or negging or anything like that. those are all
devices to get a womans attention, not to make u a better person.
wait there buddy, when did I say you need peacokking, dhv stories and canned routines? I said they are good for beginners to get them started and gain experience so in the end they can become congruent with who they are at their best.
Your problem is that you define PUA by little games and canned material where in fact the core values of being a PUA is about becoming your best self, understanding social dynamics and being able to successfully execute upon it by building attraction, comfort and seduction.
All good PUA methods share the same core values. Like I said, being a successful/master PUA means you end up being a natural and ready for anything. If you can't understand this, then there is nothing left to argue.