Wow I'm happy I'm not alone man. How did you react to not being hard before you close? I really didn't knew what to say to not stress her out. Right now I just have a feeling of guilt building up inside me..I feel bad. And yeah forget the porn that's it. I can't believe how unrealistic this industry is.

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The both of us aren't the only one it happened to. It also depends on the environment and the mood you're in. I've lost erections in certain circumstances, like when a girl wanted to blow me in a forest when like twenty of her friends were ten meters away and pointing flash lights to us to see what was up.

When it happened to me with the girl I had picked up, both of us had some drinks before (we met late afternoon and met up later that same night at a party), it was like 3am and she said she was getting tired. If I remember correctly, I didn't mention to her that I felt bad at all, and I didn't say sorry. Not only because I only rarely say sorry (most of the time when someone asks me), but also because she was very close to climax just with fingers. In addition, I felt especially sorry for me, and didn't really care about her.

I fucked things up afterwards with that girl because I really wanted to bang her, and starting the next day for like five or six days I got very needy. She started flaking me, so I froze her. Bumped into her weeks later and since, we've been friends (and not with benefits sadly).

There's no reason to feel guilty. Sometimes, your actual brain takes control over the instincts (read "cock") and there isn't much you can do.

Keep her number tight, keep a backup of your contacts (or simply have an android phone, that works even better), and give her a call whenever you're in NYC.

In the mean time, continue proving you're getting closer to MPUA!

Directly from Hawaii,


High five man!

You *kind of * fuck closed your first girl. Even if it didn't happen like you thought it would, it still goo, man. The girl wanted to fuck you... Could you say something like this a couple of months ago and really meaning it? "Hey, this girl craves my dick inside her vagina and she's doing everything for me to make it easier". Could you?

Anyways, now she's gone and you'll have to focus on someone else. Here is what you have to do: Look back at everything you did with her and think of anything that you could improve. Focus on your mistakes.

You have reached a new stage in pick up. Believe me or not, this is way harder than the previous one, which is gaming the girl. Let me explain myself:

Now, you're starting getting results and girls seem to like you. You can kiss close and attract a girl when you're in a club. But here's the thing, now you have to deal with life itself. Logistics, friends, isolating, and even with your own body. If it worth anything, I can tell you that it basically took me 5 tries to get my first f-close. Every single time, something would fuck up somewhere.

How can you deal with life? You can prepare yourself better to face everything that could happen. Every time you go to a club, prepare your isolation. Even if you didn't talk to any girl yet. As for myself, the friend that I'm coaching and I usually have this bottle of alcohol waiting in the car and once we made out and all with the girl, we tell her to come in the car to take some shots with us. Since we don't have our own place yet, I find it the easiest way to isolate if she doesn't have her own place (You can get kicked out of the club if you do it in the club's bathroom, and hotels and just too expencive for me).

Now, for you're little erection problem. I don't think it was because you jerked off before. Fact is, if you stayed home, you could've probably jerk off again 15 mins after the first time. Was she the first girl to see your dick? I believe that you were too much stressed out and this is why it didn't work out. Maybe you should read "Sex god by daniel rose" and focus on your immersion. It will make every make out or every fuck so much better.



Anyways, sun is beautiful out there so I might edit this another time! Now, let's go surfing

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Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

I actually suffer the exact same issue, I dont have my own place, I have money, but I dont want to spend it on a lay that feels slightly pathetic in my opinion, so what exactly do you do? (this is to matt)

As for you valentyn, youd think I know how to spell your name by now, but yea I think your major issue was stress, just calm down and keep tackling. Sex is like pick up, you aint gonna be a sex demon right away, if you are, well god loves you, if not welcome to the human race where we are naturally imperfect.

Just checked my PM and saw your messaged fucking laughed for 2 mins straight haha, really sucks that it didnt work out, next time just close your eyes and turns her around and do it doggy if needed, or make her get her hands dirty while you close your eyes and calm down until you good.

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I have been following your journal for a while, although I haven't read all of your reports. I also haven't read any of the replies from the other members (except some of your friends'). It was enjoyable, especially since I have been to most of the locations you have mentioned (I live in Laval) so imagining your stories were more vivid. e.g: when you were getting out of the bathroom from Thursday's and that trans was checking you out, I was imagining you getting down the stairs.

As for not being erected, it could be due to stress and excitment. It was your first fuck close after all! But look, either way, you had good experience. Think about it, the experience of not having a boner is still better than being flaked on.


I've been there too. Although I wasn't in bed with the girl, I was still at the club. I have met that girl from before, through a friend. She was into me and I was into her. During our second encounter, we were dancing and I was groping her everywhere. She was turned on (moaning, heavy breath, etc.) but sadly my little buddy wasn't getting erected. I really wanted her, I wanted to take her to a bathroom located in the mall next to the club (Le Marquise) so I can finger her and see her naked (she was dressed in a robe, so her ass wasn't visible but when I was caressing her ass, I was able to tell it was close to perfect so I had to see it!!!) but I remembered how a friend of mine told me that when he couldn't get errected, the girl he was with took it personally . She thought she wasn't hot enough for him (but she was), I didn't want to take that risk. I defintely didn't want the girl I was with to think like that, because she did seem like one of these girl who would get self-conscious quickly.
My reason was due to a combination of being under the influence as well as fear of fucking it up with the girl (for an unknown reason, I kept feeling something special about her that I haven't felt from any other girl for years even though I barley know her). Other times, when I'm not stressed (yet tipsy), I would get a boner fast when I'm grinding with a girl.


PS: Thanks for mentioning the book The definitive of body language, I borrowed it from the local library, I'm learning a lot !!


From which Mystery Method product's material have you been using? I haven't read any of his material but I'm familiar to it because I have watched both seasons of his show. The reason why I didn't want to give it a shot was the fear of saying something that a girl have heard from another guy (e.g: are these real nails, don't get the wrong idea (when you hug a girl, etc.) .

For mystery method use The Venusian Arts Handbook.

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SpearX Don't worry about Mystery Method. There's not a lot of people who use MM in field here in Montreal..a lot of guys think it's bullshit. To answer your question..I read "The Venutian Arts Handbook" by Mystery. Text removed by moderator for violation of the forum rules. It's great because it teaches you all his model and it gives you a lot of good lines to say. I recommend you read it. I also watched the 5 hour Mystery DVD's set which I Text removed by moderator for violation of the forum rules. But really the most important is the venutian arts handbook. It gives you great game structure so now I like the fact that I'm really not lost in a set..I know where does my interaction goes and how much is the girl into me. Hope I helped! Peace!

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Dude I have been following your journal too and its f great to see how much you've progressed. I have not reached that level yet, I am able to build rapport but cannot k-close let alone f-close a girl.

Anyway, losing an erection seems common. It happened to me once too, and that was my ONLY intimate moment I have ever had with a girl. That was way before I started gaming. She was my gf, we went for a holiday and had a night alone in a hotel room. Spent over an hour on foreplay, I was fingering her and she getting wet and shit. She wanted to blow me and handjob me but I never could go hard. I thought it was because it was a little cold with the air conditioner on and also cause it was her and my first time, she had never given a bj before. I kept feeling her teeth on my dick and it caused me to lose erection so I could not go hard. However when we were bathing together, I could go hard. It was freaking weird. I did not manage to fuck her because she said she wasn't ready, so we stopped short of shallow fucking. After that trip, we broke up , and coming to think of it, I should have fucked her the chance I got. Until now, I am still a virgin. DAMN!! Prior to going for the trip with her, I did not masturbate for 3 days. After the trip, i jacked off and scolded myself for not being able to erect when I had a chance of getting a blowjob. Don't worry you are definitely not alone. I hope it doesn't happen again to me now that I'm picking up game..

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If you TRY, you will have 50% chance of succeeding. If you DON'T TRY. you have 0% chance. - jsmyong55

You will always feel 10 times better after you approach.

You need to lower that ego of yours a few notches.

Aside from your lack of much-needed humility, it looks like a pretty good journal so far.

Can't wait to see another field report

One question,which book did you use for body language?

Thanks man I'm going out in about 30min. I'm really a master in body language and I can tell you that "The definitive book of body language" by Allan and Barabara Pease is the key to learn non verbal communication. There's even a section in the book dedicated to how women show interest in men with a lot of information I bet you didn't knew. It's a really awesome book to read! I recommend you do! Peace out!

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Yo mate you should watch his youtube video, its the exact same thing as the book (a bit less obviously) but you can see it and hes actually quite entertaining.
I dont have the link on me but I figure it would be easy to get.

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Thanks,i will look for both book and video

Date: 6 january 2011

Members: Valentyn, Froggy & Wildguns

Location: Café Campus & Tokyo


HB BUYS ME DRINK

Allright so I'm a little bit rusty because my last HB that was from New York was here and I didn't approached while she stayed in Montreal..I just spent all my time with her each day. Now I'll be honest..I'm a little upset that she left and lately I've been thinking a lot about her..that's why I thought 2night I should go out and change my mind.

I approached 9 sets. Now I arrive and each me & Froggy do a warm up set. This is really important I just noticed how this can change your entire night! Sooner you open any girl even if she's ugly as fuck and you start gaming her..soon you realise you're in your element right now and you dont need to stress out. I'm trying to remember all the sets I did but it's kind of hard so I'll summer up the most important points.

I see a HB who's at the bar by herself. I go in near her and look to my right. Now she bumps a little bit in to me but I make sure to bump in to her too so she has a reaction. Now she looks at me and says I'm sorry. I go: "Wow..really? it's not nice to bump into other people you know??" She: Haha sorry. I immediately shift in to PUA mode..I go in with natural hair color..some other briliant stuff I said on the spot I just forgot a lot lol it sucks. I start to kino her and come a little bit closer. I give her an A3 test. "Are you passionate?" Her: "Of course I love figure skating" Me: "Really ?? Figure skating? You're officially the first girl I know who does that sport really cool. You know what by the way? You looked so mean when I first talked to you..I can now see..you're actually a pretty nice girl. " I don't know why but she just loved that line lol. Now I'm like ok I'm in A3..really easy..kino was there everything was just perfect. I could kiss close her in a fraction of a second but..I'll be honest she wasnt that attractive and I was turned off by her. I talked to her for like 15minutes and than her boyfriend was really pissed at me because she was supposed to buy a beer and go back to him..but she stayed 15min with me man. ouch. That's why you keep your girlfriend's tight in a noisy field guys..PUA's are everywhere

I go to the bathroom and while I'm walking another REALLY hot fucking cutest girl walks alone besides me. I'm like holy shit I cannot let her walk away. I quickly kino her waist and open: "Now woww wait a minute you! You looked so interesting I had to say hello! My name's Valentyn" *extend my hand for her to shake and I wait for response* She just gives me this gigantic smile and introduces her self to me. Jackpot. This is just incredible..I have done so many direct approaches I never once got blown off!! The most amazing reactions I had are from direct ones. We chat up a little bit..natural Valentyn for this time and she says she lost her friends and she wants to find them. I say the same thing and because she looks really desperate to find her friends..I eject saying we're going to talk later.

Froggy did some great approaches without hesitation and Wildguns re-opened a set he opened before during this time. Froggy's been improving A LOT lately. This is crazy man..the guy's opening 10 sets each night and today he kinoed really well! He number closed 2 girls..great work!!

I also did multiple threading with openers. I would use openers as a story in my A2 - A3..that's really good when you have nothing to say.

We change the venue and I come in this time I see a girl by her self again. I engage and I neg her on her hair (wig). She goes: "NO way! I'm 100% real pull my hair!" I pull her hair than I say: "You're not 100% real look at your coat it's made of fake animal hair" Haha she laughs and all..we chat up and her friend comes in afterwards. So my target turns half her back to me..I do the same. After 5 sec her friend tells her she wants to show her something so they go away.

I'm locking in seeing an HB 8.5-9. I wanted to experiment so I approach with a neg. I say to her that I think the color of her hair isnt natural. She didn't took it well. I dont really care man..I'm only doing it for the skill

I see this "mature" girl standind near me with a green bag. I open: "Wow I think your bag is the biggest between all the bags in this room! You can put a dog in it!"
Hahaha lol she laughed and said Yeah she knows her bag is really big but she was already leaving when I opened. Anyway I was having fun

Now there's this girl..she's a little bit tall but she dances a lottt! High energy. She comes near me at the bar and she checks me out so I go: "Hey you have a really high energy!" Her: "Thanks.." Me: "Yeah man..you're like a dancing monkey..you'll all over the floor I have to stay away from you " She laughs and we start talking then she asks me: "Do you want to drink?" I go "Yeah of course..but you pay for the drink ok? That's what you have to do if you want me to give you my number" *Reverse role-play* She smiles and says: "Of course I'll buy you a drink" Nicee great move..now we drink and there is this guy that really hits on her in a lame ass way man. Needy...coming in too close and I eject a little bit because they knew eachother. The thing is that this girl just always looks at me..looks at me...and re-looks at me wanting my attention. I give her a forcing IOI and even if she's not really my type I'm down for some number closing for the skill. Then..I see Froggy go in my set.. to the dude and the girl and saying if I gave her my number. She just goes: Wtf no... and after that well I just realised he fucked up my set. I was really pissed he had no business of going in and messing up my set. He wanted to DHV to me.. but the girl was pretty much past the point of into me I could've just put the phone in her hand and she woud've wrote her number. Bottom line is that I loved that reverse role playing gambit I made. Great practice stuff! First HB that actually pays money for me

Opener I want to try out in a 2set: "Hey which one of you guys gets hit on the most?" One of them points at the other.. "Okay I'm going to talk to her then"


OVERALL

A lot of practice...opened 9 sets..new record..coud've number closed 2 HB's but one had a boyfriend and the other one well my wing messed up for me I'm not mad thought buddy don't worry!

POSITIVE

- Really understand the power of approaching a warm up set
- 0% AA
- Great multiple-threading
- Stay in sets really long

NEGATIVE

- No closes

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I dig the reverse Role-Play

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