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Hi Don,
Need a good opener for a girl which I met but barely spoken. So basicaly I have to remind her who I'm cuz I think she don't even know my name and don't have my number.
Oh and I had to call her day after new years eve to hang out a bit cuz it was last day she's staying in my city but I had too big hangover.... So what you think about this:
"Hey this is your boyfriend from 2011. If you still in (city) maybe you want to meet up?"
EDIT: Oh I forgot rule to tell her... So maybe this one is better
"Hey this is your boyfriend from 2011. If you still in (city) let's hang out."
I have to be honest. If she barely remembers your name or your face, that's a sign of disinterest. Also, why doesn't she have your number, while you have hers?

How about you send her a decently neutral opening text message such as "Hello (her name). This is (your name), from (your city). (Insert place/date/time when you met her). Remember me? :wink: " and use her reaction to see where you stand with her.

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Hey Don,

Again, thanks for the tip. I checked out the link; it looks very useful. I've been studying some NLP but rarely put it into use because I'm still learning it. What other NLP tricks you got? Sorry for all the questions! :P
Well, keep learning the NLP material. You'll get a fair idea of "NLP tricks" from it.

I'd suggest you get Speed Seduction Basic Home Study Course, if you haven't already. That should take you in the right direction.

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okay so theres this girl ive been talking to for quite a while now ill call her M. M texts me alll time time and almost always sends the first text.
M tells me things she doesnt even tell her best friends and always tries to get me to say things "i love you".... however i hardly EVER see M and she usually has some excuse as to why she cant hang out.
M has also told me that shes been into some other guy for a while, but she always goes off about how she hates him and how hes an asshole.
so what do?
Well, tell her, don't ask her. Take the lead.

Mention some event/lunch/dinner and tell her that you would like to see her there at that date and time. Don't buy into her excuses. If she is indeed into you as much as you tell me, then this should not be an issue. If she still doesn't show up for whatever reason. I would suggest you to drop this girl, because it seems to be a lot of effort over nothing. She could be using you for getting her attention kicks.

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Hi Don,

I met this girl hb 7.5 at new years eve party, managed to kiss close and #close, did well on kino. She even told me that I should invite her for a drink.
Now, should I call her or text her? And what should I text in case texting is a better option?
How about you text her with a "Hey (her name), how are we doing this morning/afternoon/evening? :wink: " and make some little conversation for a message or three and then call her, if she's in a position to receive calls.

As a rule of thumb, Calling > Texting. Always remember that.

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hey don!
can u tell me what can i do in a situation like this and whether this girl is interested lmao i dont wnana mess things up! so lets call this girl X
i met her in a club and yea number closed dance for a bit held her hand a bit of kino here and there and she told me to call her and well i didnt(mistake #1 i know lol) but we have been texting back and forth which im glad keeping the 1:1 ratio so :D yay lol
and i've asked her out for coffee and this is the specific text thanks mate
Me: All caught up with your beauty sleep now? hahaha. My school started a bit late so yea thats whyy.

X: Yes i did i ndeed but im still absoutely wrecked. Lol im sodrowsy form my med as well lol so ur gonna be here for Chinese new year?

Me: feel better then!:) ill tell u what, when u get better lets go out for coffee!...its gonna be a riot :D and nah im not here for cny unfortunatelyy

X: Oh so ur leaving soon so. Yea sure :) But if im out my canadian frd will b there lol. Shes not leaving till 23rd. ( Her canadian friend is staying here cause she came to visit)

Me: Thats a 2 for 1 special and as awesome as that sounds lmao, i actually wanna get to know u like alone so hmm let me think how thats gonna work loll.

X: hahaha u could think of way to sort it out. Dats ur job lol otherwise u could wait till nxt time ur bk lol what u up to?

Me: ooo playing mind games with me now eh hahaha ill figure something out! i wa sjust out with my fam chilin and stuff..

END
thanks mate please help me on what to do next and if im going in the riht direction would love to improve my text game thanks once again
Well, just tell her that you want her to join you for a cup of coffee on the weekend. For a few hours. And just her. No friend, no nothing.

Tell her that you can't stop thinking about her, that you really want to see her this weekend blah blah blah. General ploughing, in case she resists. The way I see it you need to tone down the jokes and seriously, tell her to meet you.

The intent should be clear and firm. That's how women appreciate men.

Be open, be direct and tell her exactly what you want from her honestly. She won't refuse.

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How about you text her with a "Hey (her name), how are we doing this morning/afternoon/evening? :wink: " and make some little conversation for a message or three and then call her, if she's in a position to receive calls.

As a rule of thumb, Calling > Texting. Always remember that.
I already tried calling, she didn't pick up. About 10 minutes later she sent me a message (translated from my language) "I'm in roaming. I can't pick up. I don't know whose number is this?!"
I replied a couple minutes later "Nevermind then. Let me know when you come back. Blahster" She still didn't replied. What to do next? I'm thinking about to wait for her to contact me as long as it takes.


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Hi Don,
Need a good opener for a girl which I met but barely spoken. So basicaly I have to remind her who I'm cuz I think she don't even know my name and don't have my number.
Oh and I had to call her day after new years eve to hang out a bit cuz it was last day she's staying in my city but I had too big hangover.... So what you think about this:
"Hey this is your boyfriend from 2011. If you still in (city) maybe you want to meet up?"
EDIT: Oh I forgot rule to tell her... So maybe this one is better
"Hey this is your boyfriend from 2011. If you still in (city) let's hang out."
I have to be honest. If she barely remembers your name or your face, that's a sign of disinterest. Also, why doesn't she have your number, while you have hers?

How about you send her a decently neutral opening text message such as "Hello (her name). This is (your name), from (your city). (Insert place/date/time when you met her). Remember me? :wink: " and use her reaction to see where you stand with her.
You see it was new years Eve. Somehow I ended up holding her from behind all night but barely spoken just a simple chat with group it was impossible to close her from her group and you know new years I was wasted.. Didn't even asked for her name I just found it in phone in the morning. It was sooo awkward just stand holding her all night but I was too driunk to think of something.
EDIT: Doesn't matter anymore used your advice. Thanks.


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Hey Guys,

Got a quick text convo I'd like to have looked at.

Theres a girl I work with (and have done for a while- 3/4 months). I'm very alpha male around her, and I'm always getting looks at from other girls which is scoring me points I guess...

Anyway, I've been casually suggesting that we hang out sometime- and shes been positive about it.

Now, I've text her today telling her exactly when I want to hang out and below is the conversation.

Me: HB, I've decided me and you are going out this week. "Insert quip about a pic from a funny staff night out"

Her: Haha... Oh Dear. So when do you want to hang out? X

Me: I'm really busy doing super cool design related stuff, so I'm thinking Sat.

Her: Ooh you should design something vintage! X

Is it, me or did she ignore me about hanging out in the last text. Also, she never replies straight away (probably because I have a nasty habit of not texting back for at least 24 hours lol).

Anyway, any tips on what I should text back? Or shall I leave it for a bit and remind her that were supposed to be hanging out? Don't want to come across as needy by asking her to hang out all the time.

Cheers


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hey don!
can u tell me what can i do in a situation like this and whether this girl is interested lmao i dont wnana mess things up! so lets call this girl X
i met her in a club and yea number closed dance for a bit held her hand a bit of kino here and there and she told me to call her and well i didnt(mistake #1 i know lol) but we have been texting back and forth which im glad keeping the 1:1 ratio so :D yay lol
and i've asked her out for coffee and this is the specific text thanks mate
Me: All caught up with your beauty sleep now? hahaha. My school started a bit late so yea thats whyy.

X: Yes i did i ndeed but im still absoutely wrecked. Lol im sodrowsy form my med as well lol so ur gonna be here for Chinese new year?

Me: feel better then!:) ill tell u what, when u get better lets go out for coffee!...its gonna be a riot :D and nah im not here for cny unfortunatelyy

X: Oh so ur leaving soon so. Yea sure :) But if im out my canadian frd will b there lol. Shes not leaving till 23rd. ( Her canadian friend is staying here cause she came to visit)

Me: Thats a 2 for 1 special and as awesome as that sounds lmao, i actually wanna get to know u like alone so hmm let me think how thats gonna work loll.

X: hahaha u could think of way to sort it out. Dats ur job lol otherwise u could wait till nxt time ur bk lol what u up to?

Me: ooo playing mind games with me now eh hahaha ill figure something out! i wa sjust out with my fam chilin and stuff..

END
thanks mate please help me on what to do next and if im going in the riht direction would love to improve my text game thanks once again
Well, just tell her that you want her to join you for a cup of coffee on the weekend. For a few hours. And just her. No friend, no nothing.

Tell her that you can't stop thinking about her, that you really want to see her this weekend blah blah blah. General ploughing, in case she resists. The way I see it you need to tone down the jokes and seriously, tell her to meet you.

The intent should be clear and firm. That's how women appreciate men.

Be open, be direct and tell her exactly what you want from her honestly. She won't refuse.


hey don i read your advice and i appreciate the help..i was just wondering though wont that geneeral ploughing be seen as needy and make her feel less attracted?
i dont quite understand this, it would be ncie if u explained the need for it so i can learn from it for next times attempt! its all about a learning process:)

thanks,
jasper


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Hey don

Love your work!

Just wanted to get some advice about a girl ive worked with for 2 years. We get along really well and there's definite chemistry both ways.

We've organized dates before but she keeps flaking and so I've stopped asking her out. But I do really like this girl. I find that if I don't text her for a week or so she will text me saying she misses me or something like that.

Anyway my question is, should I continue texting her and calling her every now and then and build comfort, or am I better off not texting her at all and make her chase me?

Thanks!


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I already tried calling, she didn't pick up. About 10 minutes later she sent me a message (translated from my language) "I'm in roaming. I can't pick up. I don't know whose number is this?!"
I replied a couple minutes later "Nevermind then. Let me know when you come back. Blahster" She still didn't replied. What to do next? I'm thinking about to wait for her to contact me as long as it takes.
If she doesn't know who's number it is, then remind her who's number it is. Tell her that you're the guy who she met at so-and-so club at so-and-so date. And if she still doesn't remember, tell her that does she forget people she kisses, with a smirk to imply that it's a teasing comment and not an outright insult.

Also, don't send her anymore texts. Till she remembers. Keep the ratio 1:1. At all times.

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Hey Guys,

Got a quick text convo I'd like to have looked at.

Theres a girl I work with (and have done for a while- 3/4 months). I'm very alpha male around her, and I'm always getting looks at from other girls which is scoring me points I guess...

Anyway, I've been casually suggesting that we hang out sometime- and shes been positive about it.

Now, I've text her today telling her exactly when I want to hang out and below is the conversation.

Me: HB, I've decided me and you are going out this week. "Insert quip about a pic from a funny staff night out"

Her: Haha... Oh Dear. So when do you want to hang out? X

Me: I'm really busy doing super cool design related stuff, so I'm thinking Sat.

Her: Ooh you should design something vintage! X

Is it, me or did she ignore me about hanging out in the last text. Also, she never replies straight away (probably because I have a nasty habit of not texting back for at least 24 hours lol).

Anyway, any tips on what I should text back? Or shall I leave it for a bit and remind her that were supposed to be hanging out? Don't want to come across as needy by asking her to hang out all the time.

Cheers
I am sorry, but I fail to see the need for inserting the whole " really busy doing super cool design related stuff" crap that you inserted there. What was that? A pathetic attempt at DHV? It definitely made me cringe here. Why don't you read it to yourself and see how it makes you feel.

The girl asks when do you want to hang out with her. You're supposed to give her a day, a time and a plan, so that she can absorb it. Not semi-answer it in a way that you did there. How hard is it to take the lead, Mr. Alpha Male?

And if you really want to get her to invest more, drop the "nasty habit". Texting 24 hours late, is just not advisable.

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hey don i read your advice and i appreciate the help..i was just wondering though wont that geneeral ploughing be seen as needy and make her feel less attracted?
i dont quite understand this, it would be ncie if u explained the need for it so i can learn from it for next times attempt! its all about a learning process:)

thanks,
jasper

"Albert Mehrabian is noted for finding a 7%-38%-55% rule, supposedly denoting how much communication was conferred by words, tone, and body language."

(source: Wikipedia)

The words actually,don't matter all that much, if you look at it. Focus on the tone in which you are delivering the words.

If James Bond was to indulge in general ploughing with a resistant Bond girl, would he come off as, how did you describe it? "needy"? Not really, he would come off as James Bond. Our words mean only as much as the way they are said. So, don't worry about how you are coming off, just remember to hold your frame.

Look, ask yourself, What Would James Bond Do (WWJBD) when you are about to turn into a needy little sap and then you'll get your answer and hopefully, you will stick to your originally cool, calm and collected frame.

It's not about the words, or the girl, or the emotion. It's about you.

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Hey don

Love your work!

Just wanted to get some advice about a girl ive worked with for 2 years. We get along really well and there's definite chemistry both ways.

We've organized dates before but she keeps flaking and so I've stopped asking her out. But I do really like this girl. I find that if I don't text her for a week or so she will text me saying she misses me or something like that.

Anyway my question is, should I continue texting her and calling her every now and then and build comfort, or am I better off not texting her at all and make her chase me?

Thanks!
Well, I would just reply to her next "I miss you" or something as,

"So, if you really miss me so much, then why don't you meet me?"

Does it come across as bitter? Maybe. But, you should be bitter for her wasting your time and playing with your emotions, the way she is. I mean, the way it is, she just might be using you to fulfill her attention kicks. Without any intention of meeting you at all. Do you wish to be involved with such a woman, who has no regard for your time and effort spent on her? I wouldn't.

Be no-nonsense. Be direct. Tell her, it's meeting you or the highway. And then, stick to it.

There will always be other women, you'll be more appreciative of your time and efforts, than this one is.

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hi don . Sorry for my bad english.
ı'm newest for pua techniques. And I can't readed all entry this topic.

last night, ı approaching HB8 on fb. And we're not meeting before my message.

Me : I think you're angry. I understand it.
HB8: are we meeting ? ı Think your message goes to wrong people.

whats can ı do? I can't progress my plan. but I think first sentences ideal.


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