Date: 29 december 2011

ASPECTS OF MY GAME THAT I NEED TO WORK ON


At the beginning of each month I'm writing this shit down so..I just became aware that even though I kino escalate very well..lately I kind of forgot about this concept and I wasn't aware that my interactions definately lacked some kino. From now on I'm focusing on making a lot of kino and I'll ask a closing line in every set to improve calibration and to learn when it is the right moment to close.

MESSAGE TO ALL OF YOU

Don't criticize my journal. Give me advice if you want..but I don't need you guys criticizing each and every thing I do. If you are a MPUA than yeah criticize my material. Each and every one of us have different sticking points and different journeys. Raphael I appreciate you try to help me but your posts are sometimes so anoying dude..you always criticze what I do or why do I do that. I'm not a MPUA and neither do you. If we have different game tacticts..that's because we're different but constantly giving me negative feedback about what I did wrong is not helping me and it's a waste of time. Guys..give advice but don't criticize..every single one of us have different tacticts and different point of views. I'm not here to debate material but I'm writing this journal to share this experience and maybe help some of you. Thank you for understanding!

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Date: 30 december 2011

Members: Valentyn, Froggy & Wildguns

Location: Café Campus & Tokyo


1 KISS CLOSE + 2 NUMBER CLOSES = PERFECT NIGHT

Guys I'm going to skip the bullshit..I approached 7 sets tonight..used some brilliant shit unbelivable read the report!

First shoutout goes to Wildguns. Man I'm really glad we met...thank you for your openers tonight haha they just rocked and I'm glad I met someone who wants to workout seriously on their skills. Pleasure to sarge with you anytime!

I'm going to fast talk about the 6 sets so I can just go with the important. I open a 2set and I DHV a lot bla bla bla..I hear one of the girl say to the other.."He's so hot" I'm like : "Wow I just heard you you're 2cm away from me do you really think I'm that deaf?" Bottom line. Iasked the closing line and they didnt want to give their number they say they don't do that usually. Ok bitch bye!

I did 2 direct approaches which I got extremely GOOD responses.. IOI's right on top. I think the reason why I deliver so good these direct ones is that I'm just telling it with real confidence and I look like I don't need her validation for what I just said

So at the end of the night..I see a fucking 4 set near me..I engage with this amazing opener. Credi to Wildguns! " Hey guys my friend's girlfriend is in this club and she kissed another guy...wtf..should I tell him or not? What would you do?" This is pure genious..so I got my target in my head she starts giving me IOI's..I'm like shit am I in A3?? I ask qualifying question..

V: "So are you a passionate person?"
HB: "Ummmmm I don't know..wait I'm trying to find something"

*She searched for a long time so I'm like perfect I'm exactly in C1 right now..moving to comfort = kissing and all that shit*

Now I see a HB who's much hotter she starts to get jealous so she comes in the conversation. I neg my target to introduce me and formal introductions are taking place. They're from New York and they're going to leave the 4th of january..so this is it..I'm fuck closing! Now I just made pure genious gameplay here's some DHV's that I made. I told them I speak 4 languages.. than I ask my new target if she's smart..she's like yeah. So I go in: " Ok then how many numbers 9 are from 1 to 100?" She goes: "umm..10??" I go: "wow..19 man... you 90,91,92,93.. they all count too" Boom great response laughter and everything I want. Than this is a brilliant DHV I came up on the spot. I knew the girl thought I'm good looking I see those things and so I invented this DHV. If you guys don't know..Cristiano Ronaldo is one of the sexiest soccer players (that's what all the girl said *no homo*) and I already got complimented that we somehow resemble so I go in: "Hey you know what? Before I came here this random girl just came up to me and said: holy shit you look like cristiano ronaldo what's your name?...Do you think she was just messing with me or what?" (pre-selection: got approached by a girl who compared me with a pretty good looking guy) Then she goes: "Wait wait...omg..it's so true..you do look like him..holy shit". And from this moment...IOI's just not dropped..but it rained like in the music "make it rain". It was impossible for me to even count them. To add to that..I DHV again saying you know what? I'm actually a really good soccer player last year I almost played against a profesional socer team..could've been drafted on their team" Then she's like *By the way it's not fake it is true*

After that... I started kinoing the shit out of her..she started coming closer. After maybe 15minutes of comfort building I go in for the kill. I just smell her and tell her: "Wow...you smell so freaking good what perfume are you wearing?" Her: "Awww it's Channel" Me: "Damn...shit just stop man..I'm trying so hard not to kiss you I... don't know what to do...." *Immediately I roll off - IOD* She then looks at me with huge puppy eyes..and I lean in..make out...yes what a fucking make out I loved every second. I did much more gaming I don't remember all. Now when I'm making out I start getting fucking aroused and she was just going at it and going at it.. so Mystery voice came somehow in my head: "Valentyn...release..kissing is comfort not seduction or foreplay" Ouf I back off telling her "Woww slow it down a little bit..usually I date girls for 3 weeks before I kis them". What can I say she enjoyed it so much she looked at me and told me "Damn you're really hot and you have great standards..hard to find a guy like you"

*Props to Mystery really..

I than isolate her and start kissing her on a couch. Not with tongue though to not get into arousal. She puts her leg on mine and I can feel those nice tits on my body..I'm like fucking shittt omg this feels so fucking good ouch! She's for me..a minimum 8...brunette hair - greattt legsss really great fucking body. To add to my DHV I tell her I'm a DJ haha now her face felt down she's like wow. To make sure she doesn't flake I deliver great one liner from mystery that I modified. "You know..I wanted to not come out tonight..what a great decision I made..I would never meet you if it wasnt for my friends who got me convinced to come here..so glad I met you..look at you..I cant even talk to you..I'm not going to be ablte to sleep tonight" She smiles and kisses the shit out of me. I mean..this is what happens when you don't quit and keep pushing for results. It's simple you get results. I don't want to brag at all..I just feel really good that I was able to pull so many nice moves and just be aware of it..going tomorrow on a day 2. Wildguns can arrange a hotel for me to fuck close..perfect man..this is it..I'm fuck closing. They leave the 3rd or the 4th I think so tomorrow I'm maybe closing I don't know I'll escalate and hopefuly no LMR. So I NC her and her friend just to make sure I get in touch with them. THey're friends were really happy we hooked up..I had peer approval

When I leaved..I kissed her again this time I took her by the ass put her on the bar and made out with her in front of the bartender. I saw a lot camera flashes from the corner of my eyes haha I guess that grabed atention..it felt great though

What I can seriosly say I improved is the way I don't listen to my emotions..whenever I feel stress..I still open and really I see now...emotions are just there to fuck you up..when you understand this..you take action. I was the exact opposite..I would be too worried about the outcome..not anymore.

I called this Jumping Interaction...the concept that I thought of was that you do not rationalize or think before you say something..instead..jump in and say what comes in your mind..after that worry if you said something stupid or not. I created this like 1 month and a half ago and for me it works like magic..not only for approaching..but to start routines or to say something that an emotion tries to fuck you up..

Second shoutout to Froggy. He's starting to see a lot of progress and today HE AMOGED THE SHIT OUT OF A GUY IN A 2 SET! HAHAHA let me recall


Froggy: " Hey man what's yur name?"
AFC :" Hey man I'm James"
Froggy: " Yayyy I'm James too" *giving high five to the target and the obstacle*

HAHAHAH the guy left it was hilarious


OVERALL

Approaching 7 sets...gaining experience..pushing my limits = growth. That's what I did.. I tried only new openers...approached directly...kiss closed. I mean this is why I entered The Game for..knowing what to do and not rely on looks

POSITIVE

- Closed
- Approached 7 sets

NEGATIVE

- I let some of my sets get away from me
- One set I didn't multiple thread
- One set I couldn't be-friend one of the obstacles..didn't know what to do

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Congratulations Valentyn! You're yet another proof that practice makes perfect, and that challenges enable permanent practice.

Good luck on the FC

Thank you Valentyn for the kind words, and big shout out to Froggy . You guys came as advertise and what impress me the most was not the awesome team work by which pretty cool to be a part of it but it was how you both were “ PERSISTENT” to me that the key to be a successful in the PUA.

Never giving up because there is no such thing as a easy set and thinking on you’re feet. What I enjoy the most being with two guys who know what gaming women is noticing mistakes tell you on the spot which was new to me. You and froggy are big believers in communication and wanting their wingman to be successful it's not competition.

It was a pleasure to be going infield with you and froggy. I will sarge with you guys again.

Happy New years and Good health to you , Froggy and everyone in PUA Fourm.

yea man, great job last night, happy new year everyone.

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One smile at time

Date: 31 december 2011

Members: Valentyn & Froggy

Location: Radio Lounge


VALENTYN BECOMING FAMOUS

Haha ok lol the title says it all..I'll explain why. But first of all this was my day 2 with the HB I number closed yesterday. We went to a club because she was with her friends and they want to hang out together. The place was kind of empty but this is what happened. First 10 min: Hey how are you...good you??How was your night?

Next 2hours and a half: making out non stop..I mean holy shit I had a boner and I pressed it against her..she enjoyed it so much. Sometime I rolled off just to calm down..but 30seconds after I just couldn't stop making out. Now I go to the bathroom for 1min...I come back and there's a guy grabing her and trying to hit on her on a really AFC way. I mean I just come in I put my arm around her and use the power stare to the guy. She than says that I'm her boyfriend and I tell him fuck off man. He gets the shit out of my face. We make out a lot...then she asks me: Do you have a girlfriend? I respond the truth which no come on I'm not that kind of asshole. She smiles and we make out. She compliments me a lot and I really like her..we both have great chemistry.

Now to the famous part. Some PUA's who don't know shit but they think they are PUA's (they just read the game) come in front of my target and tell me: Dude are you Valentyn? I say: yeah....why? They go: wow we heard a lot about you bro..you're the mentor of Froggy right? I'm like: ah...yeah man..what you're a PUA? The guy is excited to meet me like I'm a fucking celebrity and we exchange phone numbers. After that I get approached by 4 set of girls.. they kept bumping in to me when I was with my target. They go to Froggy and say: Heyy who is that guy?! We want to know! (pre-selection??) Froggy: Ahh sorry guys he's with his girlfriend. "Ohh ok..cool" After that they come near me while I'm kissing my girl and one of them starts making proximity and always looking at me. She smiles and says Hi. I'm like HI?? My girl got really pissed she goes: Whoa wtf wait to see if she hits on you she'll see. I tell her to not worry and take her in a corner to make out. Now the PUA's learn this girl is a HB I picked up yesterday they go crazy like hoo shit this guy has mad game! I'm like dude calm the fuck down and take a piece of paper to take notes hahaha.

Froggy by the way gived his first "seminar". He saw the wannabe PUA's and after they talked they thought he didn't have any game and they looked at him like they are superior. He then gives them a lesson on how to approach and how to hook a set. The guys are just Who the hell is this guy..they ask him do you have a mentor. He tells them yeah it's Valentyn over there. Now when they come I'm on a couch..on my girl and I'm kissing the shit out of her. I stop kissing and look up and the image of me hooking up with a girl I picked up yesterday..and 2 guys wanting to say Hi because I'm a PUA was just priceless. I looked at them..didn't even say Hi..just gave them a nod and started making out again. What can I say..great night. I love how Froggy showed these guys who were kind of laughing at the beginning. He hooked sets in front of them and gave them feedback on what they were doing wrong. Great day 2...I mean..tomorrow I'm going on a day 3. Peace out!!!

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Valentyn, watch out for your ego. It seems like you're getting a bit too serious about yourself and start thinking you're the man in town.

From what you posted along here, you haven't f-closed anyone yet. "Take a piece of paper and take notes", even yourself keep saying that you're still highly in the learning process, which is why you started a challenge for yourself some days ago.

I'd tell you to calm the hell down, if you really reacted the way you way you wrote it here.

That said, keep improving.

Jacob292...it was just a joke man..I always make similar jokes with my friends. I had a smile when I said it. I didn't like the fact that these guys laughed at Froggy and told him he doesn't know shit..don't worry I know I have a LOT to improve it just this is my regularly sense of humor at work I didn't say that to them with a jerk attitude we even shook hands and exchange numbers but I was just really surprised they wanted to meet me it's the first time this happens. Even my title is not serious by the way "Valentyn becoming famous" I just find this funny it's no statement that I'm the boss or anything. Thanks for following my journal though I appreciate you try to help me!! Happy new years by the way!

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IMPORTANT QUESTION

Guys, I need your help a little bit. I know I could FC any moment with this girl now I just don't really know how to separate her from her friends. Can somebody give me some advice?? It's not that easy because she's in a vacation and you know..her friends want to spend time with her..I cant just take her away. If anyone has any idea that will help me please post it here..or if you have any comment regardind something I did wrong or that I shoud've done in my day 2 with her..comments are really appreciated! Thanks a lot guys!

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Good to know you didn't deliver it with a jerk attitude.

I have to admit, it's a tough call since she's with her friends.

Did you find out yet where she is staying at? Hotel? Friend's place? Does she have her own room?

What has worked for me in the past is bring the whole group along to do an after party at my place. Make sure people you have someone you trust there to make sure no one trashes the place ... while you're 100% focused on your target.

Once you're are either of your places, it may sound tough, but try NOT to make out too much, because as 60YOC says, it breaks sexual tension.

Tease her by not kissing her, or just a little peck, while at the same time you're starting some sexual kino: have a look at the DiCarlo escalation ladder.

In two words, what you want, is for her to understand, just by the way you're looking at her, that you want to have sex with her, and to make her feel at ease when you're touching her bare body. So when teasing her by going in for the kiss and not kissing her, put your hand and her neck. If there is no objection, move your hand lower, on side. A powerful move is to put your hand on the bare skin of her back (pull up the shirt just enough so your hand can slide in there).

When things start to heat up even more, stand up, grab her by the hand or side, and walk her towards a room. Your chances are a million times more important to f-close if there's a bed in the room where you are (alone) with her.

Don't forget condoms (two is good: one for the evening, one of the next morning, it lowers her possible buyer's remorse).

And overall, good luck Valentyn, you've been greatly improving and it's been good reading your reports. From what I read, you totally have all your chances with her.

Date: 31 december 2011

GREAT TIP FOR YOU GUYS


Thanks a lot Jacob292. Your response is gold man...I'll check out right now that escalation ladder.

Now I forgot to write something that blew my mind yesterday. Now you guys already know I said it a thousand times...pre-selection just builds attraction through the sky. I experienced this a lottt of times. With that being said, yesterday, I went to the club with my girl that I picked up and I was with her the entire time there. Now I was walking with her on my arm. Just to give you guys an example how a pivot can disarm the obstacles. I just couldn't believe it...I got approached by 3 sets during the night. While I'm walking hand in hand with my HB, one girl approached me 2 times trying to get my attention and when I was walking past her she would shake her ass for me to notice it. I didn't even said anything to get her attention..I was just walking to find a place to sit down, having a beautiful girl on my arm. Even when we talked with people guys were just looking at me with respect and like I'm non threatening..they were surrounded with girls and they were not afraid I'm going to hit on them. There's even a 4 set who asked my wing who am I because she wanted to know me. Having this social proof with you (a girl around your arm) just alerts all the people in that room that you're a high valued guy. I'm really not joking but every girl was smiling at me without me saying anything. My girl got a little bit jealous but the point is..if you guys can build a pivot during a crowded night.. she can get you pretty much in any set you want. Have fun boys!

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I think you know this answer. Have you ever been to your grandpa and he said some crazy shit like "Everyday is a new day" and your like yea kk thxs love you but your fucking mental.

Now I will be honest I didn't read Day 2 so I might miss something, I will later and edit this if needed (I am awfully busy 2012 is waiting) but here I go.

1. You have to treat her friends like you are in a set, rather than isolate them out, let them leave? How can this be done, well its simple psychology, I am assuming she tells these girls everything, and that include meeting you, hell you got a date so she definitely mentioned you. So they know she likes you and such. So here is what you do...

2. You invite everyone to a club, say its New Years, and we should be celebrating a new year together, how can they deny, everyone wants to party, and it is a lot more comfortable if you know who you are partying with. So there is the setting.

2b. Find out if you can have an apartment party if not a club is fine.

3. When you are at this party you have to talk to the entire group re-open the set, and just have a good time, make the friends fall in love with you. A girl will actually leve you if her friends don't like you. Personal experience from this so trust me... With that said, if her friends love you, think you are fucking ryan gawsley (fuck his last name) and brad pitts love child, they are going to make her fuck you. Seriously and literally, they will mention it and even help you close the deal. The whole idea of social bs for her is out the window, her social circle approves of you and her fucking. So no more ASD and probably LMR so what you do is like normal make some excuse if you want or be blunt, depends on your game, to go to your place.

3b. What is good to do is make her think of future dates before you go out in your conversation, like you said shes on vaca, so ask her what her favroite food is (lets say pizza) then ask her if shes been to a specific pizza parlor and if no which is probably the case, say you have to go there, its the best, then later ask has she seen a movie and the same scenario, these allow her to imagine spending dates with you, its psychology she will feel more comfortable with you.

4. So take her home, and have music playlist ready, I have a playlist called chillin, its really my Sex Playlist, its all logistics, you dont want to wait 30mins to find music, make it ready, then chat up, and if its a good romantic song, dance take her hand and dance,then spin her onto your bed hook up and well mate lets just say Katy Perrys fireworks song will do just great for the next scene.

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Some great advice from both of you guys! Appreciate it and will put your stuff to the test Again to everybody. Happy new year guys! May the god of Pick-up deliver beautiful HB's in your life and don't forget to not give up. Keep pushing! Peace!!

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Have a good one mate and bring four condoms hopefully she doesnt have work tomorrow, sleep over time

Happy new years, and my bad if I was douchey with some replies, im just a natural asshole

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Date: 1st January 2012

SHE WANTED THE FUCK CLOSE-DIDNT HAVE A C3 LOCATION


Guys the title says it all..let me explain what happened. So we see eachother early in the night for about 10PM in a club and I say hi to their friends then I go to her we start kissing after 10min..and this is not a joke...we kissed for a hour straight up not even stopping. Maybe just stop for 10 seconds to get breath. This was the 3rd day we see eachother..and I builded my 7 hours of comfort. Now the interesting thing..the more comfort I build..the more she was getting sexual with me when kissing so I guess this 7hour rule applies well in my case. She wanted to fuck the shit out of me let me explain.

I buy her a drink just because I wanted then we kiss at midnight when 2011 finishes. Now we go on a couch she just jumps on me (reverse cow girl style) and we make out non stop this time I started touching her beneath her shirt and all. I put my hand between her legs and she just closes her legs on my hand. I can feel the heat of her body it feels great. She then says that she thinks I'm a player..I don't know what to respond to this..is this a shit test? I said that I'm not a player but girls are usually interested in me..I have standards and I don't go with any girl. Tell me what you think about it. By the way I came in with 3 HB's (my friends) and I present them to the group. Now my target is really jealous she keeps asking if I dated one of them and when I'm talking to the 3 of them she comes in my "set" and puts a hand around me to make sure nobody touches me haha

We start making out again at like 1:AM..again non stop..this time on the dancefloor. And now I really got her turned on..this is just crazy listen to this. We were fucking on the dancefloor if really we wouldn't have clothes you would say I was getting it in. She takes me puts me up against a wall and we start kissing...now I grab her ass just a little bit to tease her so she starts to moan a little bit. Now I get a slight boner and she feels it so she starts to rub her body against it making a motion of having sex I don't know how to explain. I was feeling her nice tits on me..greatest feeling ever. Then i started doing the same thing to her..and she started moaning against my ear while closing her eyes I have to tell you this I got so turned on I wanted to rip her clothes off. We did that for about 45 min non stop..my jaw was hurting really badly. We go sit again this time she puts my hand beneath my shirt..I work out so I have great abs she likes it and starts rubbing me I get super excited like really I wanted to plow the shit out of her..but her friends were there. Now she gave me multiple verbal signs beside the non verbal ones that she wants to fuck. She tells me how do I get home..where do I live..when I'm going home. Her friends were in front of us though..and even though I befrended them...one of them 2day was looking at me kind of pissed because we just spend the time together. I told my target though lets rejoin your friends I don't want them to feel bad but she didn't want to. Now she asks me all these questions and I don't know what to say because this obstacle is looking at me with a serious face.

I wanted to go to a hotel. Wildguns could've arranged that for me but he texts me saying the hotel is full..FUCK. She even says where she lives like the street but I find out she's staying in a renting appartmenet with her friends and they don't have each a room. I cant go to her for the fuck close..I started thinking damn what can I do..I didn't have a good C3 location to extract. I befriended the friends but I'm just really afraid that if I ask her to come with me they're friends are going to disagree or something. What do I say if they disagree?? Ah man...I'm there like that's it I can fuck close with no problem she wants me..but this sex location just ruined my plan. By the way I wanted to go to my appartment but my parents were there so that option didn't work out What do you think I can do now to get my FC?? Thanks and peace out!

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