She moved 6 months ago which broke up her 2 years relationship with her 21 years old boyfriend (she is 17 and i am 20). While we hang out, each time we talk about sex, she was saying how much it drives her nuts, when she gets horny and she misses making love with somebody (happened lots of times).

I asked her multiple times to be together but most of the times she said LJBF and see where it goes. I did so much for this girl, which i know its a AFC move, but i can't help it, i love her too much.

The other day, i was telling her how much i care for her, and she said that i did so many things for her that only a best friend or a boyfriend would do, and its what brought her closer to me. I feel each time she is implying that because i help her she loves me, and of course how much happier is gonna make her if a do certain things for her.

I asked her if she has feelings for me like a friend or more than a friend, and she said more than a friend, but she told me she loves 2 guys in the same time, me and her ex.

Yesterday we were supposed both to go to my work Xmas party (her job also from January) which made her really excited, but then my boss said that she can't come, she has to work from before. I told her that I am not gonna go, just hang out with her, and she was saying that is not gonna come because i wanted this party so much ( which was true) and she doesn't want me to miss the fun because of her. I told her, the party is not gonna mean anything for me is she is not there, she kept saying no, and felt like begging for her to go out with me that night. I got pissed and asked her if she loves me that much that she is gonna be my girlfriend and she said yes. After that i said i am not gonna attend the party at all, and is she wants to meet with me I am gonna w8 for her call (wanted to prove her how much i care for her, not sure if i did the right thing), which she started laughing and called me crazy.

We ended up going to a movie, and of course because i am an AFC and never had a girlfriend i had no idea what to do. I figured out i will kiss her during the movie, which i couldn't get myself together to do it. When we got in the car i asked her if she ever had a 3D kiss before (we had the 3d gases one, and i know its kinda lame), then i told her to get closer, which made her back up and started smocking. I w8ted for her to give me a kiss for about 10 sec, then she blew smoke in my face ( the "you aint gonna get shit" move, and she knows i hate smoke). At her house i was like i am gonna do this shit, she hug me, kissed me on the chick and when she was about to leave i asked her for a good night kiss. The first thing she said was if i had gum ( did not pay attention to what she said), i asked again for the kiss, and she told me "Next time when u have gum". After that she left and started asking myself wtf just happened, was my breath smelling, was her's or was just so that she won't have to kiss me.

After what happened last night i don't know what to think about her, don't believe she love me that much, I think its a need for her to feel loved and eventually somebody to have sex with her when she is horny. I am pretty much her only friend and it feels like she has to give something so i don't leave, which she is not gonna get attention, love and eventually somebody to calm her sex drive.

Just because she was in a relationship for 2 years it makes me feel that she is so experienced and i am not at all. This makes me feel like shit sometimes, i keep thinking that i am not good enough for her and can't please her the way she was used to. Was thinking to ask her to help me a little bit by initiating things ( which i know its lame), and also give me some tips, but then i am afraid she is gonna see me even lower. I don't know how to deal with this relationship (don't even know if its at all a relationship), i need help how to handle it and make her really want me.

she is fucking 17 ... she only has more experience in sucking dick.. you don't know what her relationship was like .. maybe she fucked her brother for two years and you are worryinmg about nothing.

anyway.. you asked for a kiss .. wtf is this...

you are fucking AFC ... you ask for everything.. it's terrible..

you are better of dumping her .. reading material.. trying it out and getting better with woman in general..

if i look how you fucked shit up.. you will fuck up later as well , as this relationship is destined to fail... it doesn't matter she isn't worth it anyway - you are allowed to make mistakes at this chick .

you are not going to dump her anyway lol ... you are too needy lol no .. it's because you give yourself a excuse... it's about you not about her lol..

by the way .. you are cute ... seriously but you score a 10 on AFCishness... sorry im blunt but i need to be honest with you.

so here is my question .. is this your first GF ? i assume she is

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U are right my friend, she is my first girlfriend.
I have feelings for her but in the same time i just want to get experience.

ok .. it;s ok to make mistakes .. you cannot learn if you do not make mistakes
therefore mistakes or not mistakes .. failure doesn't exist
aside from that .. this is your first one.. it's ok to feel this way, don't worry about it.

don't ask .. just grab her .. if you want to kiss just kiss her .. stop asking

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Man, I do understand where you stand. But seriously, you are a fucken AFC.. Change that, why are you worrying so much? If you think you are her best friend.. Give her a gift of missing you.. Don't call her for few days, if she comes back and text you thats great! If not too bad next her.. There is a big probability that she asked a gum for herself after smoking! Don't just jump into conclusions. Take that idea out of your head! According to what you are saying, she seems to have some feelings toward you, and she might be interested. But you need to stop acting so needy.. Next time you hug her, lean to her and kiss her. You said she is always horny, she "loves" you .. You get the resources.. All you need now is some balls. Good luck with that. Remember, nothing to lose and there are 500 zillion other girls out there.. dont be a one-itis

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you are right kimpa .. but this is his first girl...

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Yeah, I was in the same situation as him with my first gf. Only difference I was 14 at that time. I might have been harsh in my last post, but I just wanted to give my honest opinion and help Go get it soldier!

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Truth hurts sometimes, but then again, that's why i am here, for a honest opinion.

You are behaving like a 13yr old school girl and she is practicing/exercising her newly found power over Men. For 17 she is good at making a 20yr old like you wrapped around her little finger. You are going to get played like crazy unless you get yourself a spine.

I understand you are only 20yrs old and this is your first girl and you probably feel helpless in 'her hands'. But do you like the way you are getting treated? Why are you doing all these things for her? She is not your girlfriend. And she wouldn't be your girlfriend no matter how much ass kissing you do!

Why are you out there talking about your 'feelings' - who gives a damn about it? If a fat ugly chick told you how much she likes you would you care? NO - And why not? because Your just not attracted to fat ugly chicks. IN the same way your feelings have no significance unless she is attracted to you. And doing things for girls and acting like a 13 yr old chick wouldn't create attraction

I can tell you a few things but reading your post I dont think you'll be able to do any of those? Lets give it a try though

(1) Can you truely behave like being man 'Not affected' by anything she says - Good or Bad.

(2) Dont show your feelings or even talk about it just be very causual - i.e. When you see her just say something like 'Hey howz it going' with a big smile but just move on not even like interested in her reply.

(3) Be good around her but dont pay Way too much attention to her.

(4) At work, dont bother contacting her.

(5) If she says something good or bad just shuv it off saying something like ' Oh thats cutie' then move on.

Dont be rude but always on the move. - Hot and Cold.

Yeah, Marc has some good points there. I agree with most of them. In my opinion, never show her that she hurt you or you have very strong feeling to her. If she did hurt you, a normal reaction would be you being grumpy and upset around her. Once she sense that, there is a big probability that she would say " fuck it im not going to deal with that" . Keep a positive cool attitude around her. Try this: If you remember her when your doing whatever and you have a sudden strong heart pump, ask yourself the following: " Why am i feeling this way? answer probably: " i love her". Then say to yourself : but she said she loves me and her boyfriend.. I'm not a tool or a toy to be played around with. You need to value yourself.. When she calls you to hang out Don't say yes every single time!! 2 steps forward one step back word..

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i'm not experienced but from my perspective if you want to save this just freeze the fuck out.

i'd be fucking frustrated at this point. tell her you like her but you're not going to wait forever for her to pick someone and then back the fuck out. if she comes back to you, shes totally yours.