It depends on alot of factors, but some of them can be definitely used, depending on the situation. For example, the "what do you usually drink" can perfectly be used with a girl that is at a bar, BUT I would not just randomly open like that. I would probably open non verbally, with a smile, or if I saw she looked at me, then I would probably use that line, say "not bad ... Next time you order make it 2 and let me know", I would smile and leave. I do that sometimes if I see a girl that we have been introduced to before but never realy talked, or if I have seen her around and we have friends in common. Then you isolate her when she gets you the drink. You go to tge bar with her and you make sure you stay with her for that drink, and you can say that you now owe her one, and now you have an excuse to approach her again, either latter or some other day.
It allow depends on how things go. There are alot of factors that have to be taken in consideration.
I have opened successfully just by saying "you never smile do you?", they usually smile, I go "much better now" and I leave. Later I will interact with her.

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Really, that short? I thought the aim of the opening was meant to get their fb at the very least and what can you do to follow up?

Opening is just the first stage of the ATTRACTION phase, then you build interest, then you move to the 2nd phase CONFORT BUILDING and then you CLOSE on the SEDUCTION PHASE either kiss close or f-close! In order to close SUCESSFULLY you have to build attraction and confort. Getting her name is not even part of the attraction phase (unless she tells you her name is Megan Fox or Pamela Anderson and you feel automatically attracted to her lol ). Getting her name (so you can add her on fb) or number-closing should be done at the confort building phase, when attraction has been already stablished, and by attraction it doesnt have to necessarily be physical attraction, but some sort of interest she built for you!. Then you can exchange names, and IF YOU BUILD ENOUGHT ATTRACTION AND CONFORT to make her confortable giving you her number, then you go for the #-close, if not, dont go for it YET!
I dont wanna get off topic here, but let me just clarify something about my game:
1- I take my time to aim before i shoot, and if i dont have a clear shot, i will wait until i have it! My target can run, but it can't hide! There is no need to go through all the 3 phases as soon as you meet her, neither on the same day! Im at a night club, i see my target, i know i probably have like 1hr to game her. Why would i go up to her, open, engage on a convo, and close right there, if i can focus on opening and open WELL, take a break and focus, go open another girl, create pre-selection and social value, let her do her thing, go back to her, build more confort while i show her that im not there to bother her the whole night, and not show exagerated interest, and even give her the oportunity to see that she was having more fun for those quick 2 minutes of opening interaction than the time i left her with her friends?! I do the same on facebook! Honestly, i barely ask a girl for her number. I will focus on creating attraction and building confort so SHE will voluntarily give me her phone number. Specially if i have her on facebook. Its not like she is gonna delete me from facebook so i can take my time to create solid game so she gives me her number! In the field, during the confort stage i will find out what places she goes to, and when (NOT BY ASKING "where do you usually go" but saying for example "i went to xyz but it was sooo packed/empty and she will tell you if she went/goes there, etc...) and like i told you: She can run BUT she cant hide!
Most people i met, and forum members too, want to be Adam Lyons, Mystery, Style, or w.e, and just get laid every night they go out by a different girl. I dont give 2 fucks if it takes me 2 weeks to game SUCESSFULLY a girl cause its not like im jerking off while im gaming her! As im gaming the girl that will take me 2 weeks to close, im fucking the girl i met 2 weeks ago and SUCCESSFULLY closed! Do you get my point?! Now if you rush and you dont build solid game, youre not gonna close successfully, so whats the point?! Besides, it takes lots of skill (and not just skill) to f-close a 9 or a 10 on the first day, and as far as i know, NONE of us HERE are MPUA, so take your time! I prefer to take 2 weeks to f-close her then to FAIL on the first 15 minutes!

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That post was really hopefully, thanks for that Brian, i suppose i moved too fast with the girl by adding her on fb too soon, but i should try adn improve my game

This is an online goldmine!

Don't poke her, you might hurt her.

Hey! Brian quality post right there! but I have a question for you! Do you send messages to your targets or do you always catch them online on chat? I tried sending messages since I don't catch my targets online and I don't use FB that much, still no replies from them

to be honest with you, i would only leave a message IF:

1- if I had previously chated
2- if it is about something that we had talked before, like, something i wanted to show her like a video, a picture, about an event, whatever. Basically, something that does NOT require immidiate response or even a response. Like, something she would most likely going to comment on, but not that requires her answer.
3- I would make an exception for the "#1" if we happened if the message was related to a post or pic or comment she made, BUT i still make sure there was some sort of exchange of comments between me and her. For example, if i comment on a couple pics or status and she laughs and comments back.

Like i said, i would prefer way better to take it straight to the chat, but if thats not possible then i would send her a message.

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BTW GUYS, im gonna share a line that i created that works miracles! Its not an opener, but if used correctly, believe me, you can make her laugh and escalate the convo towards sex in the first 5, even if its the first time talking with her!... HERE IT GOES:

"give me a sex"

... that is a purposely made typo for "give me a sec". look at your keyboard and you will see that the letters "s" and "x" are adjacent. Usually she laughs and goes "sex?" ... You can reply anyway you want but I like to go "lol dont get too excited... I ment give me a sec" or a little softer: "idk who the hell decided to organize the keys on the keyboard the way they are, but i start seeing the purpose!". Make sure you take a couple minutes to reply, cause supposedly you went to do something (to the bathroom... To the refrigerator, whatever"

From here you can develop into a sex topic just by saying "talking about sex ....". If you need suggestions on how to progress, let me know.

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brilliant!

keep em coming mate

Field tested, hats off to you.

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Golden Rules i learned:
1- If you complement do it a serious way.
2- If a conversation starts with a low vibe and seems not getting anywhere, be direct but not on an emotional level.

So lucky I am to find it here! keep learning....

Merry Christmas....

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Not sure if this is really a shit test or not, but I blew past the first one. She asked "LOL do I know you?" I semi acknowledged it by saying we had a mutual friend neg'd her, because she says she was the da shit on her profile. Anyway I blew through it and continued. I'm at the end now and she challenged me again with "Hahaha, what made u even message me??".

What to do here? lol. I believe the open pretty much says it......

Just say I had no idea who you were, and you seemed kinda cute and worth to chat with. But if you can tie it back to how u first messaged her itd be good to like lets say u asked her a question about xmas... just say I really wanted to know if santa is real or not...

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Im a little confused here. Which opener did you use?! If she has that kind of reply, I assume you did not established any kind of confort. Let me ask you: did you comment on any of her status or pictures and got some sort or positive feedback?! Or did you just go cold approach and set yourself up for failure?
Not much I can do to help if you dont follow my method.... Unless you haven't read this thread and judt used some random opening line.

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