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Yea man, you should find a reason to take her away after or instead of ESP.


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Yea man, you should find a reason to take her away after or instead of ESP.
Not really dude.. in order for her to fuck you.. you have to build value.. DHV - demonstrating high value is really important if you want your target to not flake on you and if you want to go to the seduction stage. You have to go one step at a time.. I had attraction going on.. so I shoud've went in for the comfort stage.. C1.. that is isolation. I didn't isolate her from her friends. If I would've done that, I would've been able to kiss close and build a physical and emotional connection. It's important to demonstrate value so that she separates you from all the other guys that already hit on her. This increases your chances of one night lays and increasing your chances of getting solid numbers (not flakes). But I do understand what you are saying.. I had a chance of getting laid because of the solid attraction that she had for me..her friends kind of "ruined my game". I had barely any time to think and they were already gone..with that being said.. looking forward for next saturday! It was fun sarging with you!

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In regards to the ESP trick, if you failed on the 1-4, I wouldn't recommend moving to the 1-10. My wing is pretty good with this stuff and I watched him do it, fail, and recover beautifully. This is how the intereaction went:

PUA: Ok, think of a number between 1 and 4.
HB: Ok
PUA: Got it?
HB: Yes...
PUA: acting like he's focusing really hard Your number is 3.
HB: Nope!
PUA: See! It's all bullshit. We've completely disproved ESP. Good job!

HB then started laughing and kinoed him. She loved it. So, before completely giving up on the ESP routine, give that a shot and see how it works for you. Worked great for him.


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I would have isolated her first before ESP-ing or playing the Cube game or whatever games you have.. Too many people watching makes it not intimate enough.. Btw your journal really helps alot it is fun to read too. :)


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I would have isolated her first before ESP-ing or playing the Cube game or whatever games you have.. Too many people watching makes it not intimate enough.. Btw your journal really helps alot it is fun to read too. :)
Yes me too I realized this after I started analyzing my field report..next time I will definetely isolate after the moment that I see the attraction phase has ended. And thanks for the comment..I'm trying to keep you guys entertained :)

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In regards to the ESP trick, if you failed on the 1-4, I wouldn't recommend moving to the 1-10. My wing is pretty good with this stuff and I watched him do it, fail, and recover beautifully. This is how the intereaction went:

PUA: Ok, think of a number between 1 and 4.
HB: Ok
PUA: Got it?
HB: Yes...
PUA: acting like he's focusing really hard Your number is 3.
HB: Nope!
PUA: See! It's all bullshit. We've completely disproved ESP. Good job!

HB then started laughing and kinoed him. She loved it. So, before completely giving up on the ESP routine, give that a shot and see how it works for you. Worked great for him.
Thanks so much for helping man! I forgot that the first step to this is a number between 1-4.. I went with the 1-10 directly.. I promise I'll give your friend's routine a shot next sarging night - next saturday! Peace out!

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NO MORE PORN CHALLENGE


Allright guys.. I'm going to test a little experiment. I will not watch porn until my next sarging night. I heard many PUA's say that it fucks your game up so I want to see if it influences your skills and if it has any consequences on your desire to approach women what so ever. I think this is going to be hard.. hope I can make it! :D I will post results here! 8)

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Talking about Proximity alert...if you have noticed, quality women dancing together always get surrounded by AFC looking at them, like if they were waiting in line or something (That is how AFC's Proximity Alert...don't do that). If your in that situation don't join the AFC circle approach or move to a next set.
I always see a ton of guys surrounding girls in circle. However, I don't think you should necessarily next them. For those who haven't read my *journal* or a couples of FR I wrote, I really have an unorthodox style of gaming. I basically do a ton of stupid shit but with load of confidence and it works.

If I see a situation like this one, I will actually join the circle of AFC, get in a girl's back (Not touching her or i'll come off too much as a creep) and start doing weird hand gestures, basically making a lame replica of these guys. Normally, those boys won't even understand that I'm making fun of them, girls will laugh and that'll get me in the set.




I just finished reading your 3 first pages and there's 2 things that comes to my mind.

First of all, you are thinking way too much about you kiss-close routines. To be honest, just forget about it. Your kiss-close ability will be much better if you don't have any routines. Improvisation, cheezyness, romance, this is the key to a magical first kiss close. Make the girl think she's in a romance movie and she will go crazy for you. Of course, it usually demands balls to do such things but the results are incredibly better!

For example, I went out this weekend and I gamed a little blond girl for a bit before starting dancing with her. We're on the dance floor and grinding like most people there but I suddenly stop dancing without saying anything, trying to have the deepest eye contact I could get. When I'm satisfied with it, I bend on my knee, grab her and kiss it and look back at her while smiling. She jumped on me without even letting me the chance to get back on my foot. That's not a k-close routine, it's just something I wanted to do at the time and girl loved it! I usually have a cap when I go clubbing, sometimes I will pop some dancing moves, walk up to the girl looking at her, put my cap on her head, grab her and start kissing her. Simple. Effective. Shows a lot of confidence. Those will be your best k-closes.

Now, the other thing I can see from what I've read. You focus way too much on material and not enough on enjoying yourself. I know how you feel. The guy I've been helping during the last couples of weeks had the biggest AA and he had zero social skills. Yet, he is getting better have even managed to bring a girl in his car last time we went out!

That being said, I am certainly not a PUA. I'm just a normal guy who goes out and hit on girls. But I still think you should focus on the basics of PU and not focus that much on a specific system. This will help you a lot.

I will edit this when I have more time.

P.S, in my opinion. Going out au *Foufoune Electrik* on thuersday is the best place for sarging since It's huge (3 floors) and a mix between a club and a bar!

Game on!

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Talking about Proximity alert...if you have noticed, quality women dancing together always get surrounded by AFC looking at them, like if they were waiting in line or something (That is how AFC's Proximity Alert...don't do that). If your in that situation don't join the AFC circle approach or move to a next set.
I always see a ton of guys surrounding girls in circle. However, I don't think you should necessarily next them. For those who haven't read my *journal* or a couples of FR I wrote, I really have an unorthodox style of gaming. I basically do a ton of stupid shit but with load of confidence and it works.

If I see a situation like this one, I will actually join the circle of AFC, get in a girl's back (Not touching her or i'll come off too much as a creep) and start doing weird hand gestures, basically making a lame replica of these guys. Normally, those boys won't even understand that I'm making fun of them, girls will laugh and that'll get me in the set.




I just finished reading your 3 first pages and there's 2 things that comes to my mind.

First of all, you are thinking way too much about you kiss-close routines. To be honest, just forget about it. Your kiss-close ability will be much better if you don't have any routines. Improvisation, cheezyness, romance, this is the key to a magical first kiss close. Make the girl think she's in a romance movie and she will go crazy for you. Of course, it usually demands balls to do such things but the results are incredibly better!

For example, I went out this weekend and I gamed a little blond girl for a bit before starting dancing with her. We're on the dance floor and grinding like most people there but I suddenly stop dancing without saying anything, trying to have the deepest eye contact I could get. When I'm satisfied with it, I bend on my knee, grab her and kiss it and look back at her while smiling. She jumped on me without even letting me the chance to get back on my foot. That's not a k-close routine, it's just something I wanted to do at the time and girl loved it! I usually have a cap when I go clubbing, sometimes I will pop some dancing moves, walk up to the girl looking at her, put my cap on her head, grab her and start kissing her. Simple. Effective. Shows a lot of confidence. Those will be your best k-closes.

Now, the other thing I can see from what I've read. You focus way too much on material and not enough on enjoying yourself. I know how you feel. The guy I've been helping during the last couples of weeks had the biggest AA and he had zero social skills. Yet, he is getting better have even managed to bring a girl in his car last time we went out!

That being said, I am certainly not a PUA. I'm just a normal guy who goes out and hit on girls. But I still think you should focus on the basics of PU and not focus that much on a specific system. This will help you a lot.

I will edit this when I have more time.

P.S, in my opinion. Going out au *Foufoune Electrik* on thuersday is the best place for sarging since It's huge (3 floors) and a mix between a club and a bar!

Game on!
Thanks a lot dude.. but here's the thing.. keep reading.. I did switch to a natural style as you said and yeah I understand what you say about confidence and all.. it's just that I found that I didn't had any structure when I went in a set. I already have a lot of social skills I didn't have problem gaming women or attracting them in my life.. in fact.. I could write a hole page of girls already interested in me.. but these girls knew me. My sticking point is just opening.. if I open a set usually I can run some solid game. I talked about it with a great PUA guy on this forum who's a moderator and he told me that I should start with the M3 model.. the greatest PUA's started with this.. even AFC Adam.. Sinn.. and many others. Before I build any natural game.. I want to have a solid base and I'm doing that by fully mastering the M3 model. When you never picked up a chick in a bar.. it's hard to tell somebody just go there and be yourself.. that's why some canned material in the beginning can help you understand the BIG picture of seduction. Thanks for your constructing comment though.. it helps to see different theories and styles..I appreciate the time you take to help me! By the way.. the M3 model is the most basic thing in Pick up.. it regroups all the most basics elements of seduction and putting them together.. that's why in my opinion it's the best that I can start with!

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Valentino....does your challenge concern wanking yourself, if so...you should quit right now because i know your doing it while you're reading this reply. :D Just kidding Valentyn. Good Luck man, your almost over 3 days left...howz it going so far..give us an update!

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Haha bro here's the thing.. I'm not sarging this saturday anymore :roll: .. I have 3 fucking exams next week.. sooo I re-schudeled my challenge for next week..so I have the permission to wank till next monday :twisted: .. after that.. the gates are closed bitch :evil: Dude I cant fucking wait for next friday man.... finish the exams and finally going in field with you! I'm hoping to see a least an approach of you.. just the opener than I'll enter the set! Hope you don't forget your balls at your house!

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MOTIVATIONAL VIDEO


I am speecheless..wow.. what a video..have to watch this before sarging

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqN9VcBWwyU[/youtube]

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lol the most cliché filled video of all time....but truly, clichés are inspirationnal. Loved the ALI speech ‎"last week i murdered a rock, injured a stone, hospitalized a brick, im so mean i make medicine sick" and coach carter speech classsiccccc :P nice one valentyn, now go study :)

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hay man, just posting on here so I can follow your journey.

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hay man, just posting on here so I can follow your journey.

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Appreciate it a lot dude!

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