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lol thats cooll... That book completely ruins any chances of me having a relationship anytime soon though lol. It kind of fucked me up haha

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While the horny heart thing was brilliant, I disagree with most of your post. You think you know what you're doing, but instead you're looking at your heart response along with the silence after as "THE" problem when it isn't - you were just increasing sexual tension. You were never neglecting anything in the first place. By sending her the text of, "hearts make me horny.. stop it, wassup" you're already giving her attention, you're not neglecting anything there man, that's already an action in itself. The only problem would of been NOT sending her that horny heart text because you would've missed out on a nice opportunity to create tension. The girl honestly told you that she didn't respond because of her cat. So by indirectly demanding that she responded back to you, you think you've done something outstanding but you're really just being slightly delusional. It's called "not expecting anything back" and that's NOT being neglectful. Internally, you really are being needy and over-analyzing the situation. Just keep things simple, go with the flow, and keep your assumptions to yourself. Let awkward moments linger, risk creepy.


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lol thats cooll... That book completely ruins any chances of me having a relationship anytime soon though lol. It kind of fucked me up haha
Bro, SAME here! I got my friend hooked on the book as well. Phoned him one day explaining how hopeless the reality really is. "Affection will come and go." Come on man, are you for real? "You'll just have to get affection from multiple sources while enjoying freedom."

But it's so damn TRUE! My last relationship was exactly how 60 described it. First comes sexual attraction, then affection, then purity, then "it's too much trouble to break up". In a way it's helped me because if I do consider any relationships, it will be with a girl that just takes my breath away. "As if you have no oxygen, as if being a fish out of.." -Friends With Benefits movie hahahaha

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While the horny heart thing was brilliant, I disagree with most of your post. You think you know what you're doing, but instead you're looking at your heart response along with the silence after as "THE" problem when it isn't - you were just increasing sexual tension. You were never neglecting anything in the first place. By sending her the text of, "hearts make me horny.. stop it, wassup" you're already giving her attention, you're not neglecting anything there man, that's already an action in itself. The only problem would of been NOT sending her that horny heart text because you would've missed out on a nice opportunity to create tension. The girl honestly told you that she didn't respond because of her cat. So by indirectly demanding that she responded back to you, you think you've done something outstanding but you're really just being slightly delusional. It's called "not expecting anything back" and that's NOT being neglectful. Internally, you really are being needy and over-analyzing the situation. Just keep things simple, go with the flow, and keep your assumptions to yourself. Let awkward moments linger, risk creepy.
I agree with this if you're really into the girl and you want her to know that you're the real deal.

But it'd be great to use Fuze's idea to experiment to find social patterns.


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I dont like agreeing with fuze but in this case hes right

way too much 60 years of cavemans challenge being the answer to all problems -not really


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i think texting will be the death of us all, lol

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i think texting will be the death of us all, lol
I don't disagree with you...

I was talkin to this random HB10 on facebook, and got her number and i'm like " ill call you"

and her response was " no, text, i only talk to family on the phone, for a little time.. I only text" ---- Could this be the future of the next generation??????????

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I dont like agreeing with fuze but in this case hes right

way too much 60 years of cavemans challenge being the answer to all problems -not really
If you word it like that, easy to say so.
"Way too much of this government Obama stuff being the answer to all problems, not really."
"Way too much water being the answer to all problems, not really"
"Way too much of oxygen being the answer to all life, not really"

Sometimes a man is just a genius, so I don't discredit him. Everyone keeps running around saying, "Just be indifferent bro." "Just be confident bro." Like what the hell does that mean? But when you actually understand it and all your questions get answered and you can't spot any flaws, it's like you actually become a natural. 60 saved me from so much mental masturbation, so much confusion, so much frustration. I suggest you read his material. Even the top mod on this entire forum believes that his material is the best.

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Ok so here is a noob question... Name 1 of 60's books that would be a good read for me to start out with, because when I look him up on the internet I just get a lot of bs sites trying to sell me stuff and obviously they talk it up so much regardless of what it is.


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Ok so here is a noob question... Name 1 of 60's books that would be a good read for me to start out with, because when I look him up on the internet I just get a lot of bs sites trying to sell me stuff and obviously they talk it up so much regardless of what it is.
It's 4 books by him. It's called the Complete Game System. Google 60 years of challenge and text removed by mod for violation of forum rule 3 it. It will give you all 4 books. But the most important one in my opinion is Fearless Relentless Escalation. Either that or just give me your email and I'll text removed by mod for violation of forum rule 3

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i don't want to derail this thread with a prolix discussion on 60 but lets talk about a few important points.

The top moderator your referring to, lets just say, rhymes with "beef"?

Lets be realistic, if you spent years studying PUA and then the best game you can come up with is "no game" as 60 says, then obviously you have an inner game issue which precludes technique based success. I don't think that's arguable.

Secondly, I do like 60 especially for guys who are young and who have shitty inner game. Once you have inner game set up then you need to build on it with higher level technique. So while grinding chicks on the dance floor an rubbing them up at the bar is all fun, eventually your gonna move out of that demographic and want some more all around appropriate stuff. In which your going to need outer game.

Confidence, boldness, and the ability to escalate sexually very fast are great mindsets but not the answer to the vast majority of game questions. I think we have to separate the parts from t he whole lest we make a fallacy of composition.


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i think texting will be the death of us all, lol
I don't disagree with you...

I was talkin to this random HB10 on facebook, and got her number and i'm like " ill call you"

and her response was " no, text, i only talk to family on the phone, for a little time.. I only text" ---- Could this be the future of the next generation??????????

COULD this be the future??? No.

IT IS.

And it's not even the future...its happening right now.

I personally can't stand it.

You ever talk to a person when you're out somewhere...doesnt even have to be a girl... And they pull out their cell phone and stare at it like they have a message? Sometimes, yes, they are being ignorant and disrespectful and find their text more appealing than your conversation.....BUT...Most of the time it is their security blanket....Its fucking sick lmao They pull it out to avoid making eye contact with a person....They stare at their phone when they dont know what to say, just so they can say "Oh i'm sorry, my friend sent this funny text, blah blah blah....Oh yeah, what were you saying?" And even a lot of times, these people dont even realize they're doing this..Its terrible, and is destroying the small amount of social skills the current generation still has...I feel bad for the future generations, in a way.


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i don't want to derail this thread with a prolix discussion on 60 but lets talk about a few important points.

The top moderator your referring to, lets just say, rhymes with "beef"?

Lets be realistic, if you spent years studying PUA and then the best game you can come up with is "no game" as 60 says, then obviously you have an inner game issue which precludes technique based success. I don't think that's arguable.

Secondly, I do like 60 especially for guys who are young and who have shitty inner game. Once you have inner game set up then you need to build on it with higher level technique. So while grinding chicks on the dance floor an rubbing them up at the bar is all fun, eventually your gonna move out of that demographic and want some more all around appropriate stuff. In which your going to need outer game.

Confidence, boldness, and the ability to escalate sexually very fast are great mindsets but not the answer to the vast majority of game questions. I think we have to separate the parts from t he whole lest we make a fallacy of composition.
Chief, yes. And yes, I could see why coming up with "no game" would be reasonable. It's like ending up like Donald Trump and coming to a single phrase concluding everything he's known about business.. Look, it really is "no game." The vast majority of people on here think that "game" is doing and saying a bunch of stuff when in fact it's all about following nature. Why didn't "game" exist 10000 years ago? How how were people fucking 10000 years ago without game?

60 even talks about not grinding and rubbing up chicks. It's much more than that, he mentions it's about creating the "It's On Moment." It sounds like you're generalizing a lot while overlooking the true meaning.

It sounds like you believe in canned lines and routines. Don't get me wrong, the only technique you really need is how to be a male. It's beliefs like yours that lead to cool guys like you becoming frustrated later on where you think your lines aren't hitting hard enough. You'll be disappointed thinking that your hard-earned skills are slipping.

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The majority of game questions are very easy to answer once you have the mindsets you mentioned. I barely ask any questions nowadays, my mindsets just answer them for me.

"Oh the girl is saying she can't do this, she doesn't like that, she's not like that..why blah blah." ASD.

"Oh the girl feels weird, why did she call me creepy, why did she back up" Sexual tension.

"Oh the girl is all sarcastic saying this and that" Don't break rapport.

You can come up with hundreds of different questions and scenarios for each of the categories above, there's only a few answers.

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i think texting will be the death of us all, lol
I don't disagree with you...

I was talkin to this random HB10 on facebook, and got her number and i'm like " ill call you"

and her response was " no, text, i only talk to family on the phone, for a little time.. I only text" ---- Could this be the future of the next generation??????????

COULD this be the future??? No.

IT IS.

And it's not even the future...its happening right now.

I personally can't stand it.

You ever talk to a person when you're out somewhere...doesnt even have to be a girl... And they pull out their cell phone and stare at it like they have a message? Sometimes, yes, they are being ignorant and disrespectful and find their text more appealing than your conversation.....BUT...Most of the time it is their security blanket....Its fucking sick lmao They pull it out to avoid making eye contact with a person....They stare at their phone when they dont know what to say, just so they can say "Oh i'm sorry, my friend sent this funny text, blah blah blah....Oh yeah, what were you saying?" And even a lot of times, these people dont even realize they're doing this..Its terrible, and is destroying the small amount of social skills the current generation still has...I feel bad for the future generations, in a way.
Woah, i agree so much with everything here. It's horrible what's happening. But you have to be able to work around it.


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I don't disagree with you...

I was talkin to this random HB10 on facebook, and got her number and i'm like " ill call you"

and her response was " no, text, i only talk to family on the phone, for a little time.. I only text" ---- Could this be the future of the next generation??????????

COULD this be the future??? No.

IT IS.

And it's not even the future...its happening right now.

I personally can't stand it.

You ever talk to a person when you're out somewhere...doesnt even have to be a girl... And they pull out their cell phone and stare at it like they have a message? Sometimes, yes, they are being ignorant and disrespectful and find their text more appealing than your conversation.....BUT...Most of the time it is their security blanket....Its fucking sick lmao They pull it out to avoid making eye contact with a person....They stare at their phone when they dont know what to say, just so they can say "Oh i'm sorry, my friend sent this funny text, blah blah blah....Oh yeah, what were you saying?" And even a lot of times, these people dont even realize they're doing this..Its terrible, and is destroying the small amount of social skills the current generation still has...I feel bad for the future generations, in a way.
Woah, i agree so much with everything here. It's horrible what's happening. But you have to be able to work around it.
Shit makes me laugh bro. As a matter of fact, I think it's good that texting exists for that reason you mentioned: security blanket for avoiding eye contact, etc. I do this thing from time to time where I give the girl the most random object to hold on to as a distraction. When she feels the sexual tension, she will examine it more and and ask me a question about it. Girl pulls out phone? PERFECT. She's probably checking to see if the touch screen still works.

Never EVER text until you have tried calling at least once. It produces more sexual tension and and more compliance. Even if I have to text, I generally don't mind since I know I can catch the girl in person later on.

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