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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:25 pm 
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i find that when i go clubbing it is very difficult to try and use an 'opener line', the music is to loud the girls have to many distractions, etc..

is there another method i should be using in clubs?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:02 am 
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You should try by yourself multiple techniques and learn by failing-succeding but just to ut you on the right way, approach her by the front, walk with confidence and when you open her, talk without hesitation and make her laugh that should put down her guard and dont forget to kino

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Hi Just B,

I'm really glad you brought this up because I'm actually from America and I do indeed agree with you.

I think it's something that I have just learned to accept. I think club are actually an even harder place to meet women than a simple stranger in the street because the music is so loud, and the bitch shields are stronger.

But I think it's important to keep trying to spit game in clubs and to strangers at bars, lounges, etc., Because even though these are the hardest settings, they are great places to improve you game and calibrate your skills. I use the same skills as always, but I just am at peace with the fact that it's much harder... kind of like baptism by fire.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:20 pm 
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Dude if your a real alpha you will own the club, Let me explain to you .. Talk LOUD as in if you have to SHOUT AT HER!, If your leaning in (Pecking) you know your too soft .. you must have a loud and DEEP voice , this will convey HIGH ALPHA male. What i'v learned from the clubs is that you have to show your very socially excepted and that your leader of the MEN.

To be the best in the clubs , your going to have to go out atleast 4 nights in a week. Get to know the bouncers VERY WELL , tips etc can help. Now let me explain to you why knowing the bouncers is very important. Women like PROTECTION. When you enter the club talk to the bouncers for asLONG as you CAN!, E.G. Gym talk , guy you fucked up last week for looking at your women, These rockstars you partied with 2 weeks ago that made you crash your car!!on your way home. WHAT EVER!. Now your at the entrance of the club YOU know all the bouncers, are making jokes , EVERYONE is walking passed you , trust me they notice you with the bouncers. Also keep your head high , and when you walk into the club STAND AT THE ENTRANCE and look around MOVE SLOW SLOW SLOW. and when people look at you LOOK DIRECTLY in their eyes. Dont glance Stare at their eyes like you know " YOUR THE SHIT ". Also keep your head High.

Fuck i'm good, if you want to learn more P.M. Me i own clubs

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Icame up with this idea that me and who ever im with will stand in the middle of the dance floor and hang out early on and for a hour not focus on any girls! DONT EVEN LOOK at them! They will dance around you and start to feel comfortable around you! Then you can open a joke about sketchy guys trying to dance with them or who's the dj spinning that night or just ask where they hang out! oh and try to be a FUN guy!!! Girls are very drawn to that! Sometimes the fun guy is cooler then the alph guy because every alpha has that going on already(spikey hair,muscle shirts, tough looks)! Be a Omega! The reason clubs are tough are because for guys there meat markets! Girls are there more to have fun but will never turn down the chance for romance!!! If you set your self apart from the other guys it comes off as really cool! Oh and NEVER, EVER dance and grind a girl from behind unless you aproach from the front or a angle!

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Hola Bro's,

You know, those are some really good pieces of advice about club sarging. And I can see how they can really help. Thanks for sharing.

Last night, I thought about it, and you know what I realize really helps me when I'm sarging in clubs and similar settings? I have a pivot (aka female wing) named DD. She's great. I help her... she helps me. We have hand signals and everything. And the pre-validation goes a long way.

Just another idea that might help sarging at clubs.


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on long island there are just so many spots that are were we live and like M we have our pivots and my friends primary that is a 11 and she has cool friends and always give us tons of S.V.!

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Body language says everything a girl will ever need to know about you. We talk a lot about inner game and your posture, how you carry yourself, ect. There are also ways for us to initiate an interaction without words.

I remember there was a time Shaft and I were out sarging and he was macking an 8; he brought her over to meet us (myself and his friends, in the midst of a heated argument about dancing) for the social proof. He told me she was deaf. A few minutes later, he was back at the table without her, which confused me. He said it was really difficult to keep an interaction going with someone who can't hear you or read your lips because of the environment.

It got me to thinking about how you can use subtler kino/dominance techniques mid-game to compensate for a lack of verbal game. Consider walking up and hugging people. If it gets you blown out, it gets you blown out. Try the fabulous opener. Don't even say anything, just plant and stare. Then start "fixing" her hair. If you're a dancer (I'm not) don't dance seriously for too long. Dance with her for a while, grab her by the hand and start swinging eachother around. If you're not a dancer, get her to teach you to dance (girls love teaching guys anything). When you mini-date, make sure it's to a variety of places with a variety of volumes so that you can spit game normally without having to shout. You don't have to be able to talk to get a girl to like you.

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I remember Deaf girl, that was tough man. It did open my eyes to body language though.


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I find in the club, its easier to undermind the alpha male structure that nighclubs are infested with. If you look around in any good nightclub worth sarging, what are you gonna see? A bunch of motherfuckers walking around with their chests blown out and their alpha male attitude glaring to the maximum. Yes, I know that not everyone in the club is going to be like this, but a large percentage of them will. All the rest of the men will be the awkward "im gonna come and dance with this random girl from behind and really creap them the fuck out" guys. I have found time and time again almost without failure that when I aproach any good looking girl in the club with good eye contact and a cool and confident mannerism, it leads to a dance without a word being spoken. Here, all you need to do is show her some dancing skills for 15-20 minutes. By doing so, you have eliminated the opening of the pickup, and already broken major ground with kino. Offer her a drink/bottle of water from the bar. Sit at a quiet table to rest, run with the pickup from this phase. (showing an intelligent/intruiging/confident alpha male who is dominant mentally and is physically confident will pay off more than an alpha male who follows the normal behaviors of physical dominance.) It's almost too easy. Just requires dance skills.

As far as the success of the alpha male who knows the bouncers and tips the fuck out of everyone for attention, these types usually end up with the kind of girl that loves to fuck every one of these alpha males that she meets. Which means your dick might be burning in the morning and you just lost a lot of money in tips. These girls tend to be the 10's of the club, but I have also found that most of these girls don't look as good in the monring as they did with lbs. of makeup on the evening before. But you still can and will find better, cleaner, less used girls by following the mysteriously laid back intelectual clubber method. Again, this is all from my expierences through the years as a club promoter and someone who enjoys the nightlife and clubbing scene.


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yeah, i agree! i call that move the bump and grid from behind! A.M. will try that when im talking with a H.B. and she will leave and with him for a bit, while she dancing with the A.M. I will chat up another H.B. (Girls will very much notice you when you talking with other girls). Then I will cut the guy off derrectly and walk up to her and take hand and dance with her!

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Yeah, I have found that actually leaving the dancing before another dude tries to move in is effective as well. If you leave her and immediately start over with some other girl in her sight, she will NOTICE and hate it. But as soon as you go back she will be right there, unless of course you waited to long and some other guy stole your shit.


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Yoo got a question,

Yesterday night i was going out in a Nightclub.
Where i walked around like Alpha-Male.
I picked up a lot of interest from girls,
But my question: is it a good idea? to watch them in the eye immediatly or when they have looked up to you for like 3 times

Cause i think when you aren't watching the first time.
You make them more interest in you.

what do you guys think?


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I find in the club, its easier to undermind the alpha male structure that nighclubs are infested with. If you look around in any good nightclub worth sarging, what are you gonna see? A bunch of motherfuckers walking around with their chests blown out and their alpha male attitude glaring to the maximum. Yes, I know that not everyone in the club is going to be like this, but a large percentage of them will. All the rest of the men will be the awkward "im gonna come and dance with this random girl from behind and really creap them the fuck out" guys. I have found time and time again almost without failure that when I aproach any good looking girl in the club with good eye contact and a cool and confident mannerism, it leads to a dance without a word being spoken. Here, all you need to do is show her some dancing skills for 15-20 minutes. By doing so, you have eliminated the opening of the pickup, and already broken major ground with kino. Offer her a drink/bottle of water from the bar. Sit at a quiet table to rest, run with the pickup from this phase. (showing an intelligent/intruiging/confident alpha male who is dominant mentally and is physically confident will pay off more than an alpha male who follows the normal behaviors of physical dominance.) It's almost too easy. Just requires dance skills.

As far as the success of the alpha male who knows the bouncers and tips the fuck out of everyone for attention, these types usually end up with the kind of girl that loves to fuck every one of these alpha males that she meets. Which means your dick might be burning in the morning and you just lost a lot of money in tips. These girls tend to be the 10's of the club, but I have also found that most of these girls don't look as good in the monring as they did with lbs. of makeup on the evening before. But you still can and will find better, cleaner, less used girls by following the mysteriously laid back intelectual clubber method. Again, this is all from my expierences through the years as a club promoter, small time E dealer, and someone who enjoys the nightlife and clubbing scene.


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You hit it on the club!When you talk about guys just going up to girls and grinding on them w/o permission.It creeps them out,If you ask them or if they ask you to dance then that's even easier to open up.If your a good dancer remember other women are watching you as well and take notice so if you can cut the rug you chances are better in hooking up.I need to take some more Salsa/Merengue classes.. Some of those woman are HOT!!
But like most guys in clubs say "YOU COME HERE A LOT"?? I know,I know...
I have even used it,I'm trying so bad to stay away from it because I am sure woman have heard that line 80% of the time they meet someone in the club.
I don't go clubin' as much as I use to,but the club scene never changes just the music and people going.
Another way to meet woman is sent them a drink and ignore them just for a second,don't go up to them right away.Chill and wait then approach'em, if she puts up a toast or if you don't feel like going just wave hi or smile at them.
Woman love mysterious guys and sometimes they'll walk towards you and thank you for the drink.

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