How to get past girls with "Trust Issues"



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:40 am 
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I've noticed this in a few girls over the past few weeks. the pattern works like this: escalate>IOIescalate>IOI....escalate> "i have trust issues."

From what ive seen, these so called trust issues can come from bad past relationships with other men or even family members. I discovered that one girl would actually projected her past negative feelings from her childhood of her father onto other guys.

basically, the target is afraid to do ____ with a guy because some guy in the past has broken her heart, for example, and now she doesn't want to take chances. I suppose this is a form of LMR, so what's to do?

this has happened during ss pickups, and over long term stuff.

I have my ideas, but I'd like to hear yours. So far, i've been thinking of just agreeing with the girl, saying i completely understand, but then just continuing escalation.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:43 am 
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I have my ideas, but I'd like to hear yours. So far, i've been thinking of just agreeing with the girl, saying i completely understand, but then just continuing escalation.
Eh... That could work for you but it's a very risky thing in my opinion. Depending on how she says it continuing escalation could get a wide variety of reactions. You're hoping for a positive one, but I think that getting the reaction you want is a very unlikely thing. If she's basically saying stop, and you continue that's borderline rape, in fact it could cross that border based on how far you take it. Now I don't know the full situation, you weren't very specific on what she said/how she said it so I can't be completely accurate with this response but from what I understand she's telling you no (correct me if I'm wrong.) Just my opinion, but it could change based on the details if you'd be a bit more specific.


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first of all you should try to address most of them before they even start. The way i do this is by setting frames and sexual frames (look up more information regarding frames on the web)
and then you want to share some of negative things and experiences from your own life too and a few secrects so that she gets the idea that you have also seen ups and downs of the life and understand how it feels and by doing this she also feels that you are being honest and geniune with her

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Tromz: i didnt want to make it about one girl, but rather something that could be addressed throughout a variety of situations. thanks for the input though, much appreciated.

Mad.Genius: yes. definitely liking this. ill give it a try next time and see what happens. i like the idea of bridging the trust issue lmr's with the frames and rapport you described. good shit!


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Tromz: i didnt want to make it about one girl, but rather something that could be addressed throughout a variety of situations. thanks for the input though, much appreciated.
I don't think I made it about one girl either. I mean I can see how you'd think that because I said "She" instead of they or them or whatever but I was referring to girls in general. But either way, if a girl firmly says no and you continue to escalate it's borderline rape. I'm sure there are a few exceptions to this rule but again I think it's risky. It doesn't really matter how many girls we're talking about here a fact is a fact. Now regarding what mad.genius said, it has potential. If a girl has trust issues, getting her to trust you will be difficult but very rewarding in the end. However, (and you can choose to ignore this if you want, but I have my moral codes and take any chance I get to spread them,) if they have trust issues and you win their trust, then you "Nail and Bail," that could be some pretty traumatic shit for them. "Leave them in a better condition then you found them." Either way though good luck.


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