I don't mean how do I become a good pickup artist. Practice, obviously.

Though, I am having trouble fitting everything into a big picture. I can't just go practice this random knowledge about the field that I know if I don't know how to put it all together and execute it..

What's the best way to study PUA tactics, in terms of what I should learn first so I can go in the field and know what to do?

Should I study openers one by one, and practice them, then move on to the next thing? Should I study progressing from one phase to another, if so how should I study each phase?

My problem is seeing the bigger picture in all this. I have no anxiety at all when it comes to approaching girls I'm just clueless on what phase to go to and transiting etc. Basically the knowing what to do, in terms of how I should study to learn it all. Like, once I have all the knowledge in my head, the basic understanding of when to do what based on the situation, etc.. then I can execute it easily.

Like I know all these random little facts to succesful pickup, random dhvs, dlvs, openers, false disqualifiers, negs, etc... but I don't know how to use them all during a pick up.

Anyone have and tips for a study plan of sorts to most efficiently build PUA foundation based on knowing the essentials of pick up

Take it one thing at a time. Start with opening. Memorize a few openers and what you need to do with your body language. Get out start approaching and stacking your material to see if the set hooks into what you are saying.

Once you are good approaching and talking for a while. Then you are just trying to get to the next level which is Female to Male attraction with your DHV stories, maybe a neg, teasing, controlling the conversation, and set.

From there then work on the next step once that gets easy. Eventually you'll put it all together. Just get out there approach, and see how far in set you can get. Figure out where you are having problems and start working it from there.

never ever use mystery method if you want to get laid

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i use some of of the things he suggests. works for me.

i think its all about playing to your strengths and using bits from what ever sounds good to you.

You have to be kidding me!!! His method is the best if you ask me. Thanks to his method I´m no longer a virgin

Well, I hate to see this guys post turn into a rant on the Mystery Method. It has worked for many, and not for some. There is more than one way to get the girl fellas. Please just reply to the topic at hand.

Yeah.. I don't really give a shit who thinks the mystery method is bad or good, or the existence of the method eitherway.


I basically need help designed a sort of training plan for myself... and JSmooth you have some good tips there.

I think my best bet to start is practicing opening, only sticking around for a bit to not get it all stale, and closing while my value is still high.

Though.. I don't know where to go from there in terms of expanding.. Is there a sort of 'model' pick up that is based off potential responses? Sort of like a stem diagram that points you in the direction of how to act depending on how long you've been talking to them, if you're getting IOIs or IOD's, etc.

if there is only one difference between me and a mpua then that is that they might be selling stuff for dollars and i am helping guys as a member of this forum.
I said not to use method because its fucked up
i would point some of the things out
sin(not john sinn) who was the close friend of mystery and was the guy to teach the first mm workshop with mystery, differs with the mystery method and doesnt think that its accurate.
Style (neil strauss) who learnt mystery method made adjustments in the method and mixed it up with ross jeffries stuff to make it work.
In a meeting of ross jerffry and mystery (arranged by style) rop jeffry got a girl within just 5 minutes and mystery wasnt able to do anything.
Main faults in the method
1. It is designf to work in club environment and doesnt cover a variety of situation
2. It believes that girls have higher value when you enter the set.
3. It focuses on building valu based attraction(that mostly get you in friend zone) not on sexual attraction(that gets you laid)
4. It has no information on how to turn the conversation sexual quickly.
5. It has no information on how to verbally and physically arouse the girl.
7. It believes in 7 hour rule, that is pure bullshit.
8. It a method for attention seeking junkies.
7. Breaking stories about your x being a stripper doesnt fool anyone.
And many more
the shortest method that i ever came across with is the method of afc adam
1. Open.
2. Comfort
3. Break rapport
4. Build attraction
5. Escalate

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First off, I'd like to say that I strongly agree with you that the MM model is full of lots of holes. It's not a bad place to start. I personally really like what Sinn and Adam have to say about the method and agree with you whole heartedly. A lot of the "rules" in the M3 model are BS and can be broken and you still get the girl. You have a ton of very good points.

Having now said your peace. I'd just ask that you keep the post on topic for this forum member.

You should close when you feel it's right. Maybe this isn't you but I know a lot of guys who close the set with a # or perhaps a kiss to but could have taken it further. Don't be afraid to stick it out for a while even though things are getting uncomfortable. Realize no pickup is flawless and most have some clunkiness to them so don't buy into this idea of the smoothest pickup ever.

There are so many potential responses in a set from being told to FUCK OFF, to being hit, slapped, or whatever. I don't think such a method could really exist. However, when you become more comfortable in set how you handle each of those will come in its own time through experience regardless of what model you want to use.

How long you have been talking to them is I dare say irrelevant. Some guys will talk to a set for 30 minutes and not isolate or really be out of the initial stages of attraction. Another guy may talk to the same set for 20 minutes, have isolated, kissed, gotten a number, and is on his way home with one of them. It's hard to put a time frame on this stuff.

Go out as much as possible and get experience talking to real girls.

Just as Jsmooth says your best first step is opening a lot of girls and experimenting with different openers to see which work best for you. Once you can open well and get a good initial reaction consistently you move on to generating attraction from the target. If you can do that your halfway done and you move on the the much larger field of mid-game.

I wouldn't worry about leaving on high value unless your only working within a small group your going to see a lot. If your never going to see these girls again I wouldn't worry about their feelings, it may limit your boldness and experimentation.

The best way to learn is to find other guys to train with. It's too easy to lose heart when you're on your own.