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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:15 am 
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the easiest way to make sure that a girl wont flake on you after you get her number is to ensure that you text her for the same reason that you got her number for. I often see guys who take a girl's number to send her the details about an exibition and then they text her, "hey, whats up?","when are we meeting up?" and it always freaks them out because that isn't the reason they give you their number for. On the other hand you swap the phone number because you are going to hook them up to a night club and then you contact them for the night club, they are not going to flake because they know what the reason was.
If you look back on the times when a girl flaked on you, you will almost always see the that the reason you got their number is not the same that you are texting them for.
And in addition to that i would like to say that the biggest things happen before getting the phone number, on their qualification.
The more qualified a girl is, the more a girl has worked to get your attention and invested in the interaction, the more reasons she has that you legitimately like her for more than her looks. The more she is going to not flake. Also if you set up a date properly for a specific time and she agrees, that cuts down her flaking a huge amount. and lastly, it's having a good follow up plan. These are reall the ways to cut down their flaking a lot. Very, very little flaking control happens on the phone, most of it happens in the initial interaction.
I hope that helpsy know what the reason was.
If you look back on the times when a girl flaked on you, you will almost always see the that the reason you got their number is not the same that you are texting them for.
And in addition to that i would like to say that the biggest things happen before getting the phone number, on their qualification.
The more qualified a girl is, the more a girl has worked to get your attention and invested in the interaction, the more reasons she has that you legitimately like her for more than her looks. The more she is going to not flake. Also if you set up a date properly for a specific time and she agrees, that cuts down her flaking a huge amount. and lastly, it's having a good follow up plan. These are reall the ways to cut down their flaking a lot. Very, very little flaking control happens on the phone, most of it happens in the initial interaction.
I hope that helps


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:47 am 
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would have to say that flaking is largely do to how attracted a girl is to you, the emotional impact you had on her during your meet, the results are wildly irradic, no matter what, different girls have different tastes, you can stay in set with a girl for 5 hours, do everything correct, kiss her, have her qualifying herself to you for 3 hours, have a huge tons of vibing and commonalities, time bridge, get her to qualify to you that she is really excited about it and will be wearing a certain type of earrings,

and still have her flake, while you number closed some other girl with a cheesy pickup line, in 20 seconds, and didn't even talk to her, send her a text and she doesn't flake,

the results are completely random, there is no telling what is going on in that girls life or how she truly feels about you


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:59 am 
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if nothing is sure, then what are you doing on a pu forum? Leave this shit and go in the filed thinking if can get the girl or i cnt get the girl. The things that i mentioned here are guidelines that i myself have been following with great success. And ofcourse these things work. Ask any master pua or get the my post reviewed by an experienced pick up artist. He will tell you what i wrote and how helpful it is


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:07 am 
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and i would challenge what you said,"flaking is largely due to how much a girl is attracted to you" that is pure bullshit. Attraction is not a permanent emotion, it vanishes any time.
I would say, " flaking mostly depends on how much a girl is connected to you (connection) and how comfortable she is taking to you.
And please don't come here again shooting blah blah blah, let the readers do it or a skilled pick do it. To be honest, to me, you are a wanna be pua


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:12 am 
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if nothing is sure, then what are you doing on a pu forum? Leave this shit and go in the filed thinking if can get the girl or i cnt get the girl. The things that i mentioned here are guidelines that i myself have been following with great success. And ofcourse these things work. Ask any master pua or get the my post reviewed by an experienced pick up artist. He will tell you what i wrote and how helpful it is
is that your interpretation of what i wrote?

have you compared the difference between not getting a girl to invest, vs getting a girl to invest?

have you gone out and day in and day out actually seen the difference between what a natural good looking guy does, vs what an average to ugly pua guy does who has read shit tons of theory? have you compared the results?

how many phone numbers do you actually have?

how many times have you had sex in the last week?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:19 am 
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i have not only done this shit, infact i am over 7 years in. Everything i learned came directly from the masters. i have even developed my entourage. And if i tell you how many numbers do i have or how many times i had sex in the last week, its going to be hard for you to believe


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When you've delivered a proper pick up chances are little she will flake. Unless she has a BF she did not mention. And to me a proper pick up starts at around five minutes and having her all over you and totally absorbing your vibe. 1 minute numbers are worth nothing unless you're Brad Pitt or someone of his status.


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exactly!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:22 pm 
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the easiest way to make sure that a girl wont flake on you after you get her number is to ensure that you text her for the same reason that you got her number for. I often see guys who take a girl's number to send her the details about an exibition and then they text her, "hey, whats up?","when are we meeting up?" and it always freaks them out because that isn't the reason they give you their number for. On the other hand you swap the phone number because you are going to hook them up to a night club and then you contact them for the night club, they are not going to flake because they know what the reason was.
If you look back on the times when a girl flaked on you, you will almost always see the that the reason you got their number is not the same that you are texting them for.
And in addition to that i would like to say that the biggest things happen before getting the phone number, on their qualification.
The more qualified a girl is, the more a girl has worked to get your attention and invested in the interaction, the more reasons she has that you legitimately like her for more than her looks. The more she is going to not flake. Also if you set up a date properly for a specific time and she agrees, that cuts down her flaking a huge amount. and lastly, it's having a good follow up plan. These are reall the ways to cut down their flaking a lot. Very, very little flaking control happens on the phone, most of it happens in the initial interaction.
I hope that helpsy know what the reason was.
If you look back on the times when a girl flaked on you, you will almost always see the that the reason you got their number is not the same that you are texting them for.
And in addition to that i would like to say that the biggest things happen before getting the phone number, on their qualification.
The more qualified a girl is, the more a girl has worked to get your attention and invested in the interaction, the more reasons she has that you legitimately like her for more than her looks. The more she is going to not flake. Also if you set up a date properly for a specific time and she agrees, that cuts down her flaking a huge amount. and lastly, it's having a good follow up plan. These are reall the ways to cut down their flaking a lot. Very, very little flaking control happens on the phone, most of it happens in the initial interaction.
I hope that helps
the point was not that getting a girl to invest in an interaction, will not help your cause, the point was, GIRLS ARE NATURALLY FLAKY, if you are ugly and fat, throw down some really good game, give a girl a really fun time, make her laugh, get her number, but she is not attracted to you physically, only emotionally, no matter how invested in you she is, there is still a fairly decent chance she flakes on a date, that is what I have actually experienced in real life, not just read in some book, and yes there is permanent attraction, a girl will know within 30 seconds of seeing you if physically she would fuck you or not, it is your job from that point to carry the interaction forward, add value instead of trying to take it, spark some emotional attraction, and don't cock-block yourself
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When you've delivered a proper pick up chances are little she will flake. Unless she has a BF she did not mention. And to me a proper pick up starts at around five minutes and having her all over you and totally absorbing your vibe. 1 minute numbers are worth nothing unless you're Brad Pitt or someone of his status.
have you actually gone out and collected 1 minute numbers and tried to follow up?


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"the point was not getting the girl invested into the interaction, will not help your cause"
that's the bullshit at it's top. The whole point of the pick up is to get a girl emotionally and physically invested in you. Investment level directly affects the commitment and attraction level. The more investment, the more attraction and commitment.

"Girls are naturaly flaky"
thats why i give you tips to reduce flakes

"a girl would know within 30 minutes whether she wants you to fuck you or not"
david deangelo teaches that and yes in some cases its true. But not always, my current g.f used to hate me like hell before but now she is my gf. Coincidence? No, i have had many cases like this before

and wake up man, i have seen ugly old men fuck 18 yearz old hot chicks with my very own eyes.


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"the point was not getting the girl invested into the interaction, will not help your cause"
that's the bullshit at it's top. The whole point of the pick up is to get a girl emotionally and physically invested in you. Investment level directly affects the commitment and attraction level. The more investment, the more attraction and commitment.

it is irrelivant, have seen a guy hookup with multiple girls, with literally no investment, and barley a word spoke, besides wanna go make out in that room? that was his game, all throughout highschool, go to a party, hey you wanna go make out?

"Girls are naturaly flaky"
thats why i give you tips to reduce flakes
so now it is tips to reduce flakes, not your easiest way to make sure a girl will not flake on you?

"a girl would know within 30 minutes whether she wants you to fuck you or not"
david deangelo teaches that and yes in some cases its true. But not always, my current g.f used to hate me like hell before but now she is my gf. Coincidence? No, i have had many cases like this before

re-read, the post says 30 seconds, not minutes, how she treats you when you first meet has very little to do with if she would sleep with you or not, if a girl is in a bad mood she will most likely treat you poorly regardless of how attractive she finds you, ever hear of pms?, but yes there is a tendency for a girl to be extra fake nice if she thinks you are physically attractive at first


and wake up man, i have seen ugly old men fuck 18 yearz old hot chicks with my very own eyes.

that's cool, i have seen a really good looking guys with really ugly girls, not everyone has the same idea of what is physically attractive, physical attraction is subjective


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:13 pm 
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yeah 3 minutes. I mistyped.
Now the guy u mentioned, thats not solid game, thats hit and miss. May be the girl was already in a horny state. But mostly its not going to work , not solid game.
And finally you agreed that physicall attractiveness is subjective.
And yes these are the tips to be sure that you are not going to get flakes 90% of the time.
I am not teaching guys hit and miss game. Whatever i say comes from solid gaming skills


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Ill chime in here. Most of the time when a chick flakes it's due to a lack of attraction towards you. However they will also flake for a million other reasons and you may never know why one girl flaked on you

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Unfortunately from my experience having a full proof plan to make a woman not flake is impossible.
However you can decrease this by creating more attraction, creating a connection with her, and just show you aren't a typical guy.

But 100% no flake rate. Keep dreaming.

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