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Piece of advice I'm going to try in this situation, that I just got from G Donnie's thread:

If she doesn't hit me back by this time next week, I'm going to use the idea above and send a text to her saying "Hey man, legs/cardio before work tomorrow 5am right?"

DHV- fitness, LHV- wrong number, possible open if she texts back.

If not, I'm giving up

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advice from a female friend, was to call her tomorrow during lunch when she'll probably be alone or not expecting it, plus i'm a year older (i'm 23 and work as a trading assistant, she's a nanny, friend says this will dhv and probably be a good thing)

so anyway i'd give her a shout tomorrow and say something like "hey hb its bronco, not sure if you got my text the other night..wanted to give you a call because i was on my lunch break and wanted to bust on the phillies with someone..give me a call, later"

busting on the phillies was someone she did to my friend the other night, cause he was in mets country and started it... this is what i shouldve done the first time but we'll see

if it doesnt work and i dont get a call back, thats it.

if anyone can get some last minute advice inhere before 11 tomorrow, it'd be awesome. thanks

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It's so annoying that she doesn't text back!
I can't give you any tips since I'm still in the exact situation, I'm gonna call her tomorrow night, and say something like you said (didn't know if you got my message). My only brightside is that when in the club, she did agree to meet me next friday (not this friday unfortunately) So maybe I'll say something like; hey HB it's me not sure if you got my message, so we still on for next friday? Something like that.
In your situation, I can only wish you luck! Hope it works out for you.
And if it doesn't, you learned a lot! I know I did!


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I definitely learned a lot! That's a great way to look at it dude, props on the positivity! I think the problem with the text message, is that it's an easy way out, and could be interpreted as a player trying to get the word out to as many girls as possible. Plus, it hit me last night, calling is definitely alpha- if I want something, I go and get it.

Maybe you can try something funny in your voicemail, specifically something that you spoke about the other night so you can relay that you were actually interested.

I hope it works out for you too. Will keep ya posted!

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We're kinda posting on 2 threads here but I just wanted to comment on your reply here too. You're right about calling a girl rather than texting her.
Calling is always better I guess. Except for the voicemail, I'm really an AFC when it comes to that!
Hope it works out for you too!


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i know..i was thinking we should merge into one thread

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here's how the text's went back and forth..can someone comment and suggest where to go from here? i was also finishing up my day around 4:00 so thats a busy time which mightve worked in my favor because i didnt get back to her right away

i call and leave msg at 1:30
her @ 4: hey bronco whats up? sorry i missed your call I was working and couldn't chat
me @ 4:30: hey yeah nice work, i was trying to do some phillies bashing with my new favorite nanny but i had to settle for the dude in accounting, thx
her @ 4:50: haha my bad
me @ 5: its cool you owe me one. gotta watch out for jersey drivers now, talk to you later
her: good luck!

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You're right about calling a girl rather than texting her.
Calling is always better I guess. Except for the voicemail, I'm really an AFC when it comes to that!


I always assume I'll get the voicemail when I call a girl, and I used to agonize over what to say. I would write down all kinds of things I wanted to say, but some married friend of mine set me straight after watching me fumble around for 20 minutes without coming up with a good message one day. Here's how to compose a voicemail:

"Hey HB, it's KingMidas. XXXXX. Call me back when you get a chance. Talk to you later!"

XXXXX = The subject of your call if you want to hook her interest with a special event. If not, simply leave it out. For example:

XXXXX = I've got tickets to the Cardinals game next Wednesday

So the message becomes:

"Hey HB, it's KingMidas. I've got tickets to the Cardinals game next Wednesday. Call me back when you get a chance. Talk to you later!"

Or:

"Hey HB, it's KingMidas. Call me back when you get a chance. Talk to you later!"

In other words, the point of the voicemail is to get her to call you back. A voicemail should not be an attempt to arrange a meetup or convey details about anything, whatsoever.


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Dont mention your name while your doing a viocemail. Just simply say: Hi, it´s me, you should defenatly try to get a hang of me, ok bye.

This is from the jeffy show, and I think his game seems to really solid. If it doesn´t work, find the "weeping air supply callback tecnique" It´s great and a lot of girls thinks it´s funny.


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good points guys thx

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The challenge you may face here is that she could very possibly have her Anti-slut mode turned on after a loose night in the bar with you. Ie not matter how much she liked you facing you (verbally or otherwise) is going to remind her of her loose ways – and no girl who thinks of herself as genuine wants to validate that in her head. Therefore there’s a REAL good chance she’ll never return your message. However below is worth a shot:

YOUR MESSAGE: "Good I got your machine… I say good because I’m kinda embarrassed. Hi {her name}, It’s {your name} from the club last night.
Man, we were both a bit tipsey huh? I must admit that I allowed things to go a little too far {her name}, typically I don’t do that with someone I just met… I get the distinct feeling you don’t either. Guess we really became fond of each other quickly. That being said, I have a suggestion… let’s slow this train down. I really dug you so I’m recommending we go Much slower… give me a buzz and lets talk first and then see if we want to go any further. Oh, and BTW, that thing you did when you giggled is still ringing in my head… cute, real cute her name}. I’ll talk to you when you call."

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Hey,

Here's my take on it.

1) Always call, not text. Texting is wimpy and bullshit, and I reckon it sounds like that. Maybe you're bad at calling now, but you can learn and get better with time - I have.

2) Sometimes there's a long wait - in one case for me it was a week, because things genuinely went crazy for her! So you just gotta stay strong, keep your frame and don't DLV by being too needy or chasing too hard.

3) Sometimes if there's something in a couple of days I'll follow up with a text. I think that's OK - after you've left a voice mail, or if you've already met again then that's cool because you're already validated. But you don't want to do it too much. I just do whatever I'm in the mood for. Sometimes I feel like talking, other times I can't be bothered or am too busy. Do whatever feels natural (which might also be what makes you feel natural, but listen to your gut and go for it!).

4) The advice above on short voice mails is golden. That's really something I've had to learn. Short and sharp works.

HTH!
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This has worked for me all the time.

when I ask the girl for her number, I dont give her mine or call her right away until she asks for it. Thats my first test to gauge her interest.
And then I call up after 2 days and if she doesnt answer, I leave a voice mail...

If she was playful with me the other night it usually is "Hey this is x, the tall dark and handsome guy you met the other day. Just a casual call, give me a call when you get a chance". If she was not that playful, "Hey this is x, just calling up casually".

Most of the girls I talk to are playful..I left the 2nd message only once and got a reply in 3 hrs.

After the first date...I will call up a couple of days later and say "Hey this is X, how are you doing." she will say something...."Oh Btw, I wanna see your cute evil smile"...Most of them wont let me complete this sentence..some say "I am not evil" others say "When do you want that to happen ?".

I will propose a date..if she proposes an alternate date, I dont say yes immediately. I will be like "I think I have something going on that day, but lemme confirm and will call you tomorrow"... I call up the next day and confirm the time and place..

I am no veteran PUA but has been in the field for 6 months only and had lotsa success with this approach...Just wanted to share !


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