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Is it possible for an Indian guy to do well with the ladies?
Sure, he can do just as good if not better than a White, Black, or Latin guy  40%  [ 10 ]
Sure, but not as just good as a White, Black, or Latin guy  60%  [ 15 ]
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wait, how is it gonna be difficult again?
Difficult because you simply aren't what they are expecting to hit on them, like you are a very small minority, aren't you, most guys that approach them happen to be White/Black/Latino etc etc, so a lot of might find it difficult to connect to someone of your ethnicity, but then again, that's not necessarily true with everyone, a lot of them I am sure would atleast give you a chance, if they don't, good for you to not waste your time on such ones and move on to the next one. And then there are a few that are actually looking for something different from the mainstream, you have a great chance with such ones, if you were in a big city man, you would find all those types, trust me, I have to say though that American women aren't necessarily as articulate or open minded as their European counterparts, if you ask me, go to Europe, esp. Spain, Italy, or Eastern Europe, chicks dig someone like you over there, trust me, I lived in Spain for 5 years man.


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odd because I heard Italian and Spanish women are heavily conservative

anyways for Americans you are just talking about the White ones right?

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odd because I heard Italian and Spanish women are heavily conservative

anyways for Americans you are just talking about the White ones right?
May be the Italian and Spanish ones in America are, I lived and studied in Spain for 5 years, and had 2 girl friends and a ton of female friends, I never experienced anything even remotely as I experience here in the states, that said, I was very fluent in speaking Spanish, a lot of them like that very much.

And yes, I was mostly referring to the White ones in US since I don't find the other ones too open about dating a non Caucasian male.


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okay nvm, I find you hard to understand

so are you saying as an Indian you would have a tougher time getting with a Latina than a White female?

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There are two types of minorities.

American Minorities and Real Minority.

American Minorities act look, think, eat, breathe like any white person you know. They usually get their "hot white chicks" within their social circle or extended social circle. Those who are tall, light skinned, and looks almost like a white percent except for certain distinct features often get treated as white anyways so they could easily venture out of social circle without more racial limitations. Those with racially pronounced features get whatever girl they want in social circles if they have good game, but venturing out into the field going for white women would have some trouble especially if the area is not used to seeing minorities.

Real Minorities are minorities who have accents and dont get all the cultural slang, all the mannerisms, and basically dont move, think and act white. Those who look white would have an easier time. Those who have pronounced racial features would have a lot of trouble since they look, think, act, and speak foreign.

Bottomline is you need to be able to act, think, and speak white in order to pick up white chicks otherwise they would just wont be comfortable enough. Their attraction is really based on how attractive you are not your race.

Another important factor is the girl's past experience with minorities. Ive had girls tell me stories about being creeped out by either an old white guy, a mexican guy, indian guys, and black guys not because of their race but because of how creepy they approached. Having those kinds of fears in their head, if you remind her of that terrible situation even a little bit, she will completely go into defense mode.
I would have to disagree about the acting "White" part of it, why should someone act like someone he would never be, no matter how much someone tries to act "White", if he isnt' White, it looks like he's extremely insecure of being in his own skin, I wonder what kind of a woman would find someone attractive who isn't comfortable with what he is in the first place.

One of my best friends in the University was an Indian guy, 5'3" at best perhaps and very very average looking, his GF is this HOT Estonian-American girl that's perhaps 5'8" or so, now that might seem that he's a PUA who has a great game, but trust me, he's just someone who has always been comfortable with who he was, and his GF admitted that she liked him for the exotic element and the element of mystery he brings with him, not just her, I have seen him being hit on my a lot of these "White" women that you said would only find someone who acts white attractive. And oh, he's got an accent too, and he's not the only Indian guy I have seen with an accent, who isn't tall, who isn't extremely good looking yet managed to pull off one of those really beautiful women, I have also seen quite a few Asian men do the same, heck, one of these "White" women even told me once that she as well as a lot of her friends found someone who has a little accent and is different from the typical "White" frat boy very interesting to date and that they should just be that way, instead of pretending to be white.
Then you probably live in an area where white people are comfortable with minoroties. Lets flip it then. If a white person goes to a black populated area with mostly black culture. He will have low value if does not know how to think or act black because black culture is the dominant culture in that area. If he goes to a part of town who likes white people then of course he will get accepted better.

But like i said earlier "attractiveness" depends on the person. Comfort level depends on how similar the invidual acts like the culture he is trying to assimilate into.

You friend is just attractive to the opposite sex. It just happens that the people there are comfortable with minorities. If you put your friend in a non minority accepting culture, they might be to uncomfortable to let themselves gey freely attracted.

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There are two types of minorities.

American Minorities and Real Minority.

American Minorities act look, think, eat, breathe like any white person you know. They usually get their "hot white chicks" within their social circle or extended social circle. Those who are tall, light skinned, and looks almost like a white percent except for certain distinct features often get treated as white anyways so they could easily venture out of social circle without more racial limitations. Those with racially pronounced features get whatever girl they want in social circles if they have good game, but venturing out into the field going for white women would have some trouble especially if the area is not used to seeing minorities.

Real Minorities are minorities who have accents and dont get all the cultural slang, all the mannerisms, and basically dont move, think and act white. Those who look white would have an easier time. Those who have pronounced racial features would have a lot of trouble since they look, think, act, and speak foreign.

Bottomline is you need to be able to act, think, and speak white in order to pick up white chicks otherwise they would just wont be comfortable enough. Their attraction is really based on how attractive you are not your race.

Another important factor is the girl's past experience with minorities. Ive had girls tell me stories about being creeped out by either an old white guy, a mexican guy, indian guys, and black guys not because of their race but because of how creepy they approached. Having those kinds of fears in their head, if you remind her of that terrible situation even a little bit, she will completely go into defense mode.
I would have to disagree about the acting "White" part of it, why should someone act like someone he would never be, no matter how much someone tries to act "White", if he isnt' White, it looks like he's extremely insecure of being in his own skin, I wonder what kind of a woman would find someone attractive who isn't comfortable with what he is in the first place.

One of my best friends in the University was an Indian guy, 5'3" at best perhaps and very very average looking, his GF is this HOT Estonian-American girl that's perhaps 5'8" or so, now that might seem that he's a PUA who has a great game, but trust me, he's just someone who has always been comfortable with who he was, and his GF admitted that she liked him for the exotic element and the element of mystery he brings with him, not just her, I have seen him being hit on my a lot of these "White" women that you said would only find someone who acts white attractive. And oh, he's got an accent too, and he's not the only Indian guy I have seen with an accent, who isn't tall, who isn't extremely good looking yet managed to pull off one of those really beautiful women, I have also seen quite a few Asian men do the same, heck, one of these "White" women even told me once that she as well as a lot of her friends found someone who has a little accent and is different from the typical "White" frat boy very interesting to date and that they should just be that way, instead of pretending to be white.
Then you probably live in an area where white people are comfortable with minoroties. Lets flip it then. If a white person goes to a black populated area with mostly black culture. He will have low value if does not know how to think or act black because black culture is the dominant culture in that area. If he goes to a part of town who likes white people then of course he will get accepted better.

But like i said earlier "attractiveness" depends on the person. Comfort level depends on how similar the invidual acts like the culture he is trying to assimilate into.

You friend is just attractive to the opposite sex. It just happens that the people there are comfortable with minorities. If you put your friend in a non minority accepting culture, they might be to uncomfortable to let themselves gey freely attracted.
You could say that, also, my friend met this girl when he went to a Salsa dance club in Southern California, so yeah the area does matter a lot too. However, I think that even if you act White in a place where minorities aren't accepted, you would still find it extremely hard to connect to the women, simply because they wouldn't even be willing to give the minority guy a chance in the very first place.


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okay nvm, I find you hard to understand

so are you saying as an Indian you would have a tougher time getting with a Latina than a White female?
What do you find hard to understand, I have clearly stated that I found the European women, esp. the Spanish ones and to a lesser degree the Italian ones very approachable even for a non White male like myself, I couldn't ever feel the same way with American women, no matter if it's White, Black, Latina, Asian, etc etc, American women for the most part grow up with an entitlement mentality and I find it very hard to relate to them even at a superficial level with their "daddy's little princess" syndrome and all, sorry to say this but European women look at life from a much more realistic perspective and expect the same from their men instead of fantasizing their men on what Hollywood projects.

However, even among those, I found White women to be a little more approachable than Asian women, I have never tried to approach or even talk to Latina and Black women, so don't know about them. The Latina might love you though if you look and act like a Mexican dope peddler, eat tacos and burritos for food and drink Corona sitting in your pick up truck with loud Mexican music blaring, lol, just kidding man, I don't know, I can't speak for Latinas.


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okay nvm, I find you hard to understand

so are you saying as an Indian you would have a tougher time getting with a Latina than a White female?
Oh hey, btw, I just an invitation to a friend's wedding, it's an Indian guy(Indian from India, not American born and brought up) marrying this Mexican girl from San Diego, so there yo go, it happens, and no he isn't insanely good looking or ripped with huge arms and muscles 8)


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how about her?

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how about her?
She's alright, I believe he would have found a much prettier Indian girl btw, I would rather date a hot Indian girl than date a plain looking non Inidan girl.

But then, whatever rocks his boat.


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I have been reading through some forums on okcupid actually, seems like my doubts were true, Indian men are the least preferred by American women, so you could be right, although I shouldn't really say this, I would say just stick to dating Indian women in USA if possible, or go to Europe and date the women there, I can assure you, they are much friendlier, feminine and approachable there instead of the super shallow, prejudiced, shemales in the US. LOL, them not preferring you could be to your advantage, have you thought about it that way? :lol:


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no the last thing I would ever want is to date an Indian girl, they are the worst IMO

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Looks and personality will probably play a bigger role then your race for most girls. I don't discriminate on hooking up with females, except for the ugly ones. I am just not attracted to ugly. And then the ones that bore me to death and make me cringe wishing they would stfu everytime they speak.

I would think females are about the same in this respect. If you are a good looking Indain, you shouldn't have much trouble. Although, if you are an ugly Indain......very possible you'll have more trouble hooking up with an acceptable white chick than an ugly white dude.


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no the last thing I would ever want is to date an Indian girl, they are the worst IMO
I have to agree with you on that, but only and only if they are the Indian ones who are brought up in the West, I find most of the Indian girls raised in US to be very white washed and they pretend like a White girl wannabe, they try very hard to act White, and it shows, I find most of them ugly anyway, if not on the basis of their looks, on the basis of their personality.

However, I have come from India and dated a few girls there in my earlier years, they were very sweet, charming, and a million times better than any American woman I have ever encountered, however, most of them exclusively date Indian men for the most part from India, so you wouldn't have much of a chance against them, and contrary to what many White guys think, they wouldn't be given much of a chance either. I guess you have very few options now, most American women are the worst dating material and 99% of them are not even relationship material, also, I find the "princess mentality" highest among the stupid Indian girls that are brought up in USA. Sucks for you man.


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Looks and personality will probably play a bigger role then your race for most girls. I don't discriminate on hooking up with females, except for the ugly ones. I am just not attracted to ugly. And then the ones that bore me to death and make me cringe wishing they would stfu everytime they speak.

I would think females are about the same in this respect. If you are a good looking Indain, you shouldn't have much trouble. Although, if you are an ugly Indain......very possible you'll have more trouble hooking up with an acceptable white chick than an ugly white dude.
The problem is that the variation in terms of describing what is good looking for an Indian guy is so diverse that what one woman(say a White woman) finds good looking could be ugly for another woman, let me tell you what I am talking about, one of my friends who married a White girl here is a light skinned Indian guy, who said that White women mostly tend to gravitate towards the lighter skinned Indian men while shunning the darker skinned ones, however, another friend of mine from the Southern state of Tamil Nadu, a very dark skinned, darker than African Americans actually is in a relationship with this very beautiful White girl from Arkansas, now, that girl says that she was very attracted to my friends looks and after that was attracted to his personality, so it's not like she was just attracted to his personality.

Also, he isn't the only really dark skinned Indian man who has pulled off a beautiful White chick, I have seen quite a few of them, I have seen quite a few light skinned Indian men do the same, so I don't know, it's very random, also, I have been told while growing up in India that I would have been better looking had I been of a lighter skin tone, however, while in Europe and to an extent even in USA, I have had a lot of women complement on how wonderfully tanned I look, etc etc, in fact, my Spanish GF always used to talk about how radiant my skin looks and how sharp I look, etc etc.


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