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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:10 am 
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This goes to both those giving and receiving advice

First to those Receiving

Ok.. so you have read about something called Pick Up... PUA... etc.. Maybe turned onto the book "The Game".... or.. one of your friends is doing something he is calling "sarging" and then tells you about it.. and you do some research.. so now.. here you are.. You find yourself on a Forum dedicated to the teaching and learning of how to pick up women..

So you want to learn how to.. There is alot of info out there and alot of people posting advice and routines of how to do this or that... Some of which may sound good to a newcomer, AFC, or someone whom is still a bit socially inept... (Which is fine.. alot of us were in these categories at one time..)

ALOT OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE NOT PUA's.. of if you dont want to be associated with the term "PUA".... fine.. ALOT OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL WITH WOMEN... and still giving advice.. which makes no sense.. but is still happening..

There is only so much background check you can do to really know if these guys are Legit... but ask for their credentials so to speak.. find out if they are good with women.. Videos of them with women.. pictures of them with women... They have many sound stories that they can back up..

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For Those Giving Advice:

If YOU ARE A VIRGIN... STOP GIVING ADVICE ON PICKING UP WOMEN.. YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO DO SO..
ALSO.. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE GOTTEN YER TALLYWACKER WET ONCE OR TWICE BY CHANCE DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU EITHER...

I see this shit all the time.. guys that have not been successful themselves posting routines and advice to men.. telling people to "try this".. when it has NOT been proven in the field.. by anyone.. and especially not themselves... I dont care how funny the routine sounds.. doesnt mean the girl will like it or respond positively to it.. If you wanna walk around being a comedian.. get into comedy.. not Pick Up..

I know.. I sound harsh... well fine.. Maybe I just really want the guys who are in need of learning.. to ACTUALLY Learn and become successful both socially and sexually..

I do not look down on you for not having experience.. Just dont try to teach it.. just because you read it..

Then you have those people teaching "Inner Game"... which sure we all need.. but if they are someone that has not even gotten laid yet.. let someone whom has experience teach on the matter.. because.. Um.. THIS IS A PICK UP ARTIST FORUM! This isnt simply.. oh.. help you feel better about yourself forum..
This forum is about results on the outside.. which definitely affects how you feel on the inside.. If you practice and then start seeing results.. and women start treating you as you have been always wanting them to...
Women wanting you.. they want to be around you... well.. thats what I am talking about..
Its like going to the gym when yer out of shape... everything sucks at first.. u see yerself in the mirror.. and yer flabby..
You work out and you see the other guys liftin a shit ton of weight while you are embarrassed at what you are lifting.. Plus.. that little weight hurts like hell the next few days..
But.. if you talk to these guys about how they got the way they did and they help you.. yea.. right away.. yer still gonna hurt.. yer still not gonna be super strong...
but then.. a month later.. your strength is up... you've burned fat.. you have more endurance.. 2 months gone by.. u notice your reflection in mirror starting to look a lil more toned... and still a lil stronger... and so on until Now.. You are one of those guys... Teaching others how to look more like you... and because you know where they came from.. you can certainly teach them better than someone else...


Never take Diet advice from a Fat man.. and never take PUA advice from a Virgin..


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:28 am 
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true that you never know when someones advice might be UN-GENUINE HOH HOH HOH SEE WHAT I DID THAR?


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This one of the many reasons why I emphasize the importance of having a journal of Field Reports, posting Lay Reports, etc...

I believe in leading by example, and, on an online forum where people are trying to learn pickup, Lay Reports are as close to "leading by example" as you can probably get.

I also had an older post sort of similar to this: ego-problems-fucking-read-this-vt30361.html


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That is funny.. I read it.. good read.. and I completely agree...

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If reports will make my thoughts philosophies and opinions more legitimate here, alright. I'm not one to tell everybody about my life with women, but I can make a few exceptions.


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This is good stuff... There should be a page where each member can use as a report page, kind of like a little PUA facebook lol. Bodybuilding.com has a place where you can post your photos and other things, and that cold be a good addition to this forum too.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:32 pm 
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Field Reports and Lay reports are fine.. they are like a journal of what you have done..

Those begining.. it documents your progression...

Those whom have been pretty advanced in the game.. Try to structure them in a manner to teach others.. (this is what I am learning to improve on.. its easier for me to teach in person than typing it out here)

Some of my posts I will be editing in future in case the point I was trying to make is missed..

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Gen, I gotta give you a little love on this one....I have nothing to add, you you haven't been in the situation a number of times you don't know what your talking about so stop fucking with *other peoples lives*

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I see this shit all the time.. guys that have not been successful themselves posting routines and advice to men.. telling people to "try this".. when it has NOT been proven in the field
To be honest I'd prefer someone to tell a guy to TRY something and them actually go out and try something for themselves (thereby actually LEARNING), even if it's not particularly good advice, than have a KJ tell guys what would or wouldn't work IN THEORY without having actually done it themselves.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:40 am 
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Im talking about AFC's out there making up a routine off the top of their head pretty much and instead of trying it themselves.. they tell others to.. which doesnt help the person learn at all.. aside that that routine didnt work..

Some of the things I have seen on this forum could possibly get someone's ass whooped..

Some of the more risky things can be quite successful if the person knows how to deliver the material correctly.. Most of the Noobs cant.. They dont know how to deliver something normal.. nevermind somethin off the wall..

You want your novice PUA's to use the KISS method..
KEEP
IT
SIMPLE
STUPID

Easy to remember.. easy to calibrate.. easy to deliver..


There are alot of Keyboard Jockey's on this site.. I know..


I'm just a manwhore whom is a connoisseur of women.. I wouldnt boast like I do on this forum as I do if I didnt have the years of experience to back it up..

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THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! POINTS YOUR WAY.. The worst is when you get into fights with people that are unqualified but you think they are qualified, and then you find out they are in freaking high school...Also i have seen many many times seniors puas giving horrible advise...

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I agree with you, but not every post on this forum is about how to get laid.


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 Post subject: Re: Problem is
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:28 pm 
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Some of the more risky things can be quite successful if the person knows how to deliver the material correctly.. Most of the Noobs cant.. They dont know how to deliver something normal.. nevermind somethin off the wall..

You want your novice PUA's to use the KISS method..
KEEP
IT
SIMPLE
STUPID

~Genuine
Agreed.

Many advices in this community can be really efficient...but you gotta have some understanding of how this shit works-and the best way is from experience.

Just see for yourself, when you start reading/watching a new PUA material you don't get most of it, after a while, you forget some of what you've learnt things and realize many others. Then, after going out in field, rewatch that same program and it starts to make a lot more sense.

Starting off with simple things FTW!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:46 pm 
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You want your novice PUA's to use the KISS method..
KEEP
IT
SIMPLE
STUPID

Easy to remember.. easy to calibrate.. easy to deliver..

Haha I know, where you got that from :D

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:08 pm 
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Kupid -


Haha thats cool

I actually got it from this silly marketing firm I worked for in 2004-2008
The field reps had to approach atleast 50 ppl a night.. Those are successes.. Which makes it more like over 100 approaches...
Alot like PUA... Cause alot of reps had AA...

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