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this post is a joke, the poster is looking for a reaction... He is probably one of the pua hate guys...P.s. As i always say who ever is penetrating the girl is his score that matters, since his thing is the one performing.. My 10 is my 10 your 10 is your 10...I spent my younger years dating societies hb 10s model types just to please the crowd when they were not even my type(ex. bikini models), when my type is a big fat ass lol!!!!!!Again the poster fucking with you guys.. In the book "the game" talks about papa this and that something about Paris Hilton, for me Paris Hilton is an hb2 since she has no ass whatsoever, i am an ass man...I hope this illustrate my point..

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I don't think Mystery is a scam artist, however, I like this post! Finally someone who's rating scale is similar to mine and Nik Richie's from thedirty.com!


I like Mystery though. Tired of everyone clowning on him...


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lol at ur ratings, what would u have sex with?

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I might as well add my point of view. Yes like everyone else said, your ratings are far too low. But you've also got to realize, there's a difference in what you look for in a girl for a 1 night stand (looks) and what you want in a long term relationship (personality). Sure they've picked up hotter girls before. But they can't keep up this lifestyle for ever. They've gotta settle down sometime. And if they're happy with their current choice, then I'm all for it.

But still, that was an eye opener for me. Thanks for the share.

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Mystery, David DeAngelo, and Juggler are all frauds.
There is no proof that either Mystery (Erik von Markovik), David DeAngelo, or Juggler (Wayne Elise) have ever been with HB9s or HB10s.
For me personally it simply doesnt matter at all. I have learned SO MUCH social skills and achieved so much results from these fellows that I couldnt care less if they have been eith 10000 10s or none.

My man, it is not about them anymore, it is just about you, if they make u a better person (in ANY departement), then thats all that matters.


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the guy is not responding, probably just a troll, and here's what I think:
Beuty is relative, so the way you are evaluating these women is completely subjective and personal, and unless you post a picture of what you consider as a 10 (or preferably an "8" you have slept with) completely useless.

Another thing I think is worth saying is that you talk as gaming an 9 or 10 is a whole diferent thing than gaming an 8 or below, IMHO that's BS. Take in consideration that even if you could group women in 8s, 9s or 10 accurately, women can vary a lot from each other, doesn't matter if they're in the same 'group'. The point is to game women no matter how you randomly label them.

EDIT: Just adding one thing: I do agree that DeAngelo's girlfriend is ugly though, just saying.


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Too many people dissing Mystery, (and tbf, id rate nearly all those chicks near the HB8+)

All i've ever heard from people who've been trained by him is that he's awesome but its just so hard to learn, the thing is, do you want to learn the method that much or willing to give it your all?

I have a rule-of-thumb now, i don't really read much stuff on mpua's that don't post in-field footage. (and the pick-ups have to be decent and look good)

Mystery
David Wygant
Mehow
Some of the RSD crew

the above mpuas are ones that i will read about, take their advice. I really loved Gambler's book 'natural art of seduction' but seemed to be getting more and more disappointed by the lack of in-field footage and puatraining seems to be heavy on marketing and by watching some of their pick-ups on youtube (well lets just say that it was dreadful). Still though, i like Gamblers 'theory' on game and seduction, i believe it can be applied (even if he is talking bull about his own experiences)


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Guys, I think you're missing the point. Of course the OP is exaggerating, some of those HB 3-4 he rates are HB 6-7's and so on. BUT still the overall hotness of these girls really dissappoints me. Are these the 'Master' PUA's?

Even if you take character and personality 'compensation' into account, these girls are still pretty average. I expected more. I hang around with girls twice as hot as these and I don't call myself a 'pro', (by the way I hate the word PUA). So the OP has a point, where are pictures of these PUA's with HOT BABES? I mean 8 and upwards? There is no evidence.


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Amain full if we all have the same criteria of what a 10 is would be in trouble, everybody has their type...My type is coco/kim kardashian type.. i know sinn like red hear, big tetas freakles... everybody is different...I do not like Ferrari, i like escalate, everybody has their tastes...

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Some of Mistery's girls are pretty, nevertheless and without trying to sound presumptuous I have gotten just as good or better looking women without using any technics but pure raw instinct and inner passion. :o


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Amain full if we all have the same criteria of what a 10 is would be in trouble, everybody has their type...My type is coco/kim kardashian type.. i know sinn like red hear, big tetas freakles... everybody is different...I do not like Ferrari, i like escalate, everybody has their tastes...
I disagree. I think the vast majority of men have a more or less same concept of a HB 8-10. I think every man, including me, thinks Kim Kardashian is at least an 8. Men can have a preferance for types, but that would translate in not more than 1 point.

So if these PUA's can't get 8's or higher, I start doubting their techniques, their approach to pick-up.

The way I see it is that when you're getting too deep into pickup, like thinking about certain methods/techniques/pick-upplays, you're doing something wrong. The only things you need to put time in are bodylanguage/confidence and building value. From that point you simply need to improvise and let it roll naturally, in time you'll find out what works and what doesn't. In short, theory should only be the basis.

Of course the old canned opener isn't bad.

I'll make a general post about this because I believe people are treating this 'pick-up' too much as a science, whereas it's more of a rudimentary set of basic principles.


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Bah I don't bother with numbering HBs. They are either attractive or not attractive. It's all relative. If all of us went out and I seduced a girl who I like and is very attractive, you may think she's not that attractive.

It's all relative, we all have differing types.

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This guy obviously no idea what he's talking about HB2-6's don't exist...does he even know what HB stands for?


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who me?

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No the original poster of the thread, he's calling 2's and 3's Hot Babes


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