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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:32 pm 
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First off, Let me introduce myself, My name is Toby and I am An Average Frustrated Chump. But fear not i am willing.. NO. I am fully committed to changing my ways and improving my life for the better.

My ultimate aim is to be a natural and not have to rely on any routines, but i believe PU gives you the structure initially. “There’s more than one way to skin a cat” i couldn’t think of a more adept way of putting it. The ultimate aim is to be a natural but i can go down the route of being a PUA to achieve this.

My long term aim is to have fulfilling LTRs or lays, whichever I choose. That is the point I WANT to be able to choose. I love women and would eventually like to settle down, married with 2.5 kids haha the lot. But that’s much later in life.

My background you ask? I am 19 at the time of writing this and i live in the south of England, though i wasn’t born here. I always felt coming from another country set me back a couple years behind other kids. I remember i used to have so much fun and was extrovert prior to the move. But then we moved over to England (around 2000) as part of my mum’s job, I became quiet and reserved which is understandable, but i became the kid that clutched onto his mums legs at parties and i didn’t want to stick out from the crowd in any way. Over the years i kind of pushed a little out of my comfort zone, i made a few awesome friends, albeit kind of geeky ones, at secondary school.

*It didn’t help that i went to an all boys school. Girls were allowed at sixth form. I always figured not to pressure myself, that i’d get good with girls in my own time.

I should mention at this point i had a cyber relationship with a girl at the neighbouring girls school for a couple years. She was a HB6, had a banging body though (like a model, daymm). We used to exchange flirty... well dirty texts, which was awesome, we would meet occasionally face to face, but i was to pussy to make any physical move. We went to cinemas, chilled but i was so nervous i didn’t want to screw anything up so we ended up not really having any fun. But anyway she stuck around i guess she really liked me (it ended when i kinda called her a slut haha.. but were good now). I guess you could call her my oneitis. I’ve always had female friends. Its just that my approach to girls since i hit puberty was to stay at a distance just looking “cool”. I never approached, i was too pussy. I thought all i had to do was look cool and be aloof, i was too terrified inside to talk.

But anyway, time flew. At sixth form i made a few good female friends, then the time came for uni. I missed out on the course i wanted to do so i thought “take a gap year and reapply”. It was during this gap year that i realised i was an AFC!! Not only that, but throughout school i had been cripplingly shy, only made a few friends ( i had put this down to being from another country, i didn’t want to stick out but i had a semi-thick accent so i never used to speak much. Initially i didn’t care, but i started getting teased a little (not anything serious because i always knew the biggest/most popular kids, they took to me and had my back. But to stay below the parapet i didn’t used to talk that much. Anyway i got myself a little crew at school and was exposed to girls through friends in this crew etc..). On a gap year when you aren’t doing ANYTHING productive for 6 months, you start realising how important friends are. I made a few attempts to reach out and make some new friends but ultimately the year just clogged down till it was time for uni.


Before Uni, i had convinced myself it was time for a change, i was a psyched and determined i would make a lot of friends and have a great time. I bought a new wardrobe, swagged out. Was feeling great. Freshers week was amazing, discovered alcohol, which almost got me my first lay during freshers. So close but i was an afc didn’t realise how to read girls signal.

Dancing with her for like 30 mins, grinding, kino-ing (arms n face), great ec. Then suddenly

Me: I think you;re too drunk, ill get you some water
HB: Im alright.. blah blah..
Me: You should go home ( i know! cringe worthy)
HB: come on, lets dance for 10 more minutes.. then YOU can take me home

:O could it be?! ..

Lol but of course i was an AFC back then n i just didn’t understand the signals. Lol i ended up sitting her down on a couch and going to get one of the guides to see “if they could help her get home safely”

Somebody slap me now please, my dick still hasn’t forgiven me. Haha

But anyway the year kind of petered out, and i reverted back to my AFC ways. This was until towards the end of year blowout. You know that period when you’ve finished your exams, but you’ve still got about 2 weeks left of your lease?

It was then i stumbled across PU. Just videos on youtube (i started with a series by the winggirls haha, then graduated to David Wygant, gambler, KTTVIP). I put it into practice in field over the next couple of weeks and got number closes and the occasional K-close. But they flaked, looking back on it i probably could have f-closed the girls but i kept reverting back to AFC mode during conversations.

(I should mention i have an awesome, albeit smallcrew of close friends at uni, one who always has girls coming and going from the flat. I too had girls over regularly, mostly friends though but everyone just assumed i was getting laid an appropriate amount of times haha. If only that were true!)

So now we’re at the present, summer holidays. I decided this years summer holidays are going to be productive as a motherf*cker haha. Driving lessons, looking for a job and i got a holiday booked for later on and of course being on the way to master PU. so roll on this summer.

The purpose of this journal is to keep a record, to remind me that i have tried and for self improvement (i have heard keeping a record of things helps improve inner game as you can see how far you’ve come, which serves as encouragement and also allows deep reflection). It would be great if this journal could encourage anybody to improve their life for the better. Purpose of this journal is also to introduce myself, and hopefully you guys can encourage me/ give me tips/ criticize me... haha. Tough love right?

Anyway i believe PU is a gateway to becoming more confident and from there, being the man i always wanted to be.

I never again want to be the guy, which i currently am, who’s terrified of failing so he never tries, just assumes he will get better out of dumb luck.

I want to be... NO. I will be the man who takes what the fuck he wants and the man who isn’t afraid to try, maybe I’ll fail sometimes but with my head held high I’ll be able to say “hey, I tried my hardest it just wasn’t meant to be”.
And obviously, there’s a little bit of me who would like to see the expression an my friends faces as i pick up hot chicks all day everyday 8) ! But first and foremost i am doing this for me. AFC no more!!!.. well that’s the goal.

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I think you're trying to "master" it a little bit too much. One part of pick up is not thinking that you "got" a #-close or a lay. You don't know what mental state the girl is in when you talk to her, so sometimes even perfect game will get blown out. You should go out to have fun, and practice pick up to achieve higher social intelligence. It takes work, just like any other skill, but when you start to develop your talent, it can be a lot of fun. Don't push for your first f-close, you're out meeting people, and you want to meet and talk to everyone.


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haha yeh thanks slip n slide. It is really just about meeting new people for me.
Ive worked on my inner game- well not really worked on it- I just embraced myself for who i am, started loving myself. I am good looking (not in a conceited way.. yet haha) and blessed with good friends and fam. But yeh my mission is just to have fun, enjoy n live life to the fullest.

Started yesterday, approached 3 girls. Fun insightful conversations with 2, I prematurely ejected with 1 haha ohwell. Daygame is fun though, and yeah i agree, approach people who are just out and about and not the ones in a hurry!

Ill post the field report later, i'm about to got to town got to sort some things out, hopefully do more approaches

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Day 1:

After coming back from the gym earlier and reading other peoples journals i was pumped and wanted today to be my DAY 1. I dulled for a little bit then the usual doubt hit... “Maybe tomorrow is better?” “It looks like it’s about to rain, how am i going to sarge in the rain?” But enough was enough, i got on the forum and searched for motivational videos, i found the Dr. Kelso speech and decided i was going out. I was decided to go to high street to canvas the shops (job hunting) and hopefully to start to sarge.


I have been trying to incorporate the “say “hi, how are you doing” to everyone you walk by” into my everyday life with good success, but it just wasn’t happening today. Passed by a few random people (not targets) and couldn’t elicit eye contact from them or bring myself to say hi. I “wasn’t feeling it today” and just wanted to forget about sarging today, but then i realised i actually had a purpose for going out- job hunting. At this point i was really frustrated, but kept walking. I turned the corner. I pulled out my phone, loaded up the recorder and was determined to approach anyone. Then i glanced further down the road and noticed the figure of a HB walking down the opposite side of the road but in my direction. I was actually pumped, i put my phone to my mouth and said “O.K, target across the street, she looks like a 6 from here... but we shall see”.

The approaches

Crossed the road to her side nice and early (so we still had a bit of a distance to walk to meet each other). Head up, confident body language. Interaction lasts about 2 minutes.
Shes much older probably around 24

Me: hey ‘scuse me, dyu know if there’s a McDonalds around here
HB: Its on this road, you know the road? blah blah..
Me: Is it far? I just wanna get a milkshake, but im thinking is it... (worth it)
HB: Ooh, kfc! Kfc!
Me: But theyre not as good, have you tried them
HB: Crunchies (she means krushems!)
Me: theyre not as good, trust me... then i go into a true DHV story about reason why im addicted to McD’s milkshakes. Post exam cravings etc
HB: *laughing* you’ve got a problem *keeps laughing*
Me:*EC, laughs* I just met you and youre already insulting me!
Hb: *still laughing* well theres worse problems to have *smiles, still giving strong EC*
Me: Well what are you up to now
HB: Im just going tescos
Me: Well thanks for the help!

i was gonna prematurely eject, Bad chilleez
She’s tryna carry on convo

Hb: directions.. well if you carry on.. blah blah. Its a bit of a walk but *smiles* if youve got issues with.. * laughing*

(At this point i should mention i already knew the McD’s was impossibly far away,)

Me: *laughing, still holding EC* I haven’t got issues!

HB: *still laughing like i just said the most incredibly hilarious thing ever haha. S.T creeping in me thinks*

Me: *laughing* I haven’t got issues, I’ve just got a craving *seductive smile*

HB: *smiles back, still laughing, everyone starts looking round at us to see what’s going on* we all have cravings.. More directions

Me: whats your name btw, *extends arm*
Hb: Claire, whats your name?
Me: If i told you, i’d have to kill you.. you know my weakness now
Hb: *bursts out laughing, really animated*
Me: you know my cravings!
Hb: *laughs, smiles good EC*

Then i ejected. Looking back, I think she wanted the convo to continue and i could have maybe number closed, oh well! Next time I’ll know.

So i walk to the high street, looking for a summer job, talk to like 7 people in the process; always making sure i maintain EC n smile.

I saw HBlaughs again on the high street, but this time walking a dog.
I was going to ask her “where did you steal that dog from” but she was too far ahead, i hesitated, then tried catching up to her, i made sure to stay out of her view when trying to catch up, i walked a little bit faster but with a purpose i just couldn’t catch her up!

On my way back, spot a HB on a roundabout, crossing the road (coming towards me) Initiate EC, she stops

Me: hey ‘scuse me, dyu know if there’s a McDonalds around here
Hb: Its quite far, you’ll need to catch the bus number blah blah..

Then i ejected! Why?!

I could probably have teased her about being like a tourist information centre b/c her answer was so concise.. but oh well, i smiled, said thank you and moved on.


I wanted to jump back in, but there were no other sets I guess next time i should go into the city rather than a local high street.
The last set of the day; spotted when i had given up hope, i was walking back to my house. I noticed her as i turned a corner, she had one of those summer dresses on, it looked good on her, she crossed over onto my side of the road. She was quite a distance ahead of me, had to make up ground quick, especially after what happened earlier.

I’m gaining ground but not making it too noticeable, so she doesn’t feel threatened.
She walks past these 2 guys, who are drooling over her. They do the typical thing guys do, they don’t act. I get closer within a few metres.

At this point gut wrenching AA hits me like a ton of bricks, I do that tapping thing i saw on forum, haha well just my palm. (im not sure if it works cuz i only watched like 5 mins then got bored, or maybe it was just the placebo effect) but I decide to go for it anyway

I catch up to her walk slightly ahead then over my shoulder approach from the side.

Warm smile,
Me: hey ‘scuse me, dyu know if there’s a McDonalds around here
HB: directions yada yada
Me: DHV story about milkshake
HB: i didn’t know they were that good! *smiles*
Me: How far is McDs

We were walking together, then we cross the road past a local police branch

Hb: Quite far, although I could try and show you from here

I should mention i tried to control the frame, i stopped at one point and faced her. Expecting her to stop too! Failed haha. She slowed down but didn’t stop, so i kept walking at her pace. She was easily a HB7.5, i was a lil intimidated, maybe i need to do it with more conviction?

Me: thanks, i’m me btw *extends hand*

I think this is where i made my first mistake, there wasn’t enough conviction in the handshake i kind of did it apologetically.

Me: so what have you been up to today
Hb: jury duty.. blah blah moans that the trial hadn’t started and that she was bored

I asked her more about this, but obviously not about the case because that would be illegal haha!

Me: so do you work then?
Hb: yeh thats one of the reasons they picked me.. blah blah
Hb: you get paid to do jury duty ( hmm is that right, i thought you HAD to do it?)
Me: daym, i should put myself up!
HB: *laughs* you have to be chosen

We carry on on a couple of different threads, she laughs, smiles good EC few more times

Anyway the conversation carried on probably for 10 mins in total, at one point she even offered to go get the police officers crossing the road to guide me to McDs. haha.

I made up some excuse to eject, saying im going to meet a friend in the other direction; It ended up being excellent timing because just the second after she gets a phone call. It would have been awkward walking with her, while she was on the phone.

Sorry i don’t have the exact details of convo like the first set. My recording of 3rd convo wasn’t clear at all. I had messed with the settings on my phone after approach with the first set in an effort to reduce battery consumption but then the playback wasn’t very discernable.

Positives to take out of that:

• People aren’t big scary monsters that will devour you just because you say hi
• I started the day bad, but still ended up opening 3 beautiful sets
• Had good confident body language and maintained EC for the most part
• I was animated and open body language
• Even when AA hit me – right before i opened the third set- i still approached

Things to improve:
• In the third set she asked me to repeat something a couple of times, I should project my voice clearly
• Don’t be afraid to go in and re-engage a set, act quick (1st set, when i saw her later walking a dog)
• Maybe try a different opener, i would like to find an opener that isn’t dependant on a particular store
• Body language could be better, have more conviction during interaction
• Its a marathon, not a sprint: don’t get too carried away with results either positive or negative; just keep improving slowly but surely


So, guys thats my day 1 if you've got some constructive criticism/ words of encouragement dont hesitate, hit that reply button!

How did you guys feel when you first started sarging?

What would be a few good openers that can be used almost anywhere?

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Good for you! Keep it going and don't be afraid to close! If you can't get a number they almost always disappear forever. That's great practice but get something to show for it!

And about the handshake, next time a girl offers you her hand, or you offer yours accidentally, just hold it for an extra moment, look down and say "This is a little awkward." She'll laugh and you continue with "Here, I'm not easy so you don't get a full frontal hug, but we'll compromise" and put your arm around in a "side hug." You can joke that you're making sure no one gets pregnant.


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hey guys, this is just a quick update.

I haven't given up the process! haha Just been away in a diff city last few days. Have started to notice some changes/ people have pointed them out.. i guess im on the right track. Was at a party the other day, was the go to guy! just continued being social.

Have incorporated the "hey, how you doing" into my everyday life and also confident open posture and eye contact. I will definitely go out sarging this week, i really need to work on that.

Targets for this week:

open at least 5 sets over the course of the week
try and number for at least 1 set- providing the convo is going good
continue to have fun

Also, i'm thinking of posting weekly updates. As i find myself being quite busy these days. but i'll see how that goes.

Also guys, if you could post some openers that could be used in a mall setting:

i quite like
Me:hey, do you know where xxx is?
HB: its over there yyyyyyyy
ME: wow you guys are taking me way too seriously, i just came over here because i thought you were cute..

then transition..

what would you suggest i transition to?

i'd likely ask what they were doing at the mall, then use that info to go deeper into convo?

Please suggest other openers, preferably direct that would be suitable in that setting

thanks!

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The opener was good, I would shift into an indirect opener after it though. After you open direct, roll off a little, then reopen with "Actually I need a female opinion on something. My roommate/friend just called me, his girlfriend found a shoebox in his room and is really mad about it. It's nothing bad! Just pictures of him with ex girlfriends and some old love letters" then keep going with "Is that normal female behavior? You guys aren't that type of girl are you? I can tell you are blahblahblah"


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.update. Time to blow the dust off this journal. I'm on my mobile so if any bits are incoherent my apologies.


First of all ive gta give a shout out to slip n slide (the only replier.. haha but guys I know your supporting me even if you don't post, we all want to see another one of us make it!) but Yeh slip n slide cheers the posts were real encouraging.

I've been gaming off and on since my last post but as of yesterday I feel my game has gone up a level, it was amazing; I just need to do that consistently. I'm determined to.

Like I said I've been gaming on n off.

Tue, July 19: Went to a grad party meal at a posh Indian restaurant: walked in confident, introduced myself to everybody. Complimented this guy who was swagged out to the nth degree. Just enjoyed it. More than held my own. Getting laughs everywhere, chilling. I was almost the life of the party (which is pretty amazing since this was the first time I met everyone- bar one of the 2 graduates)
I ended up flirting with this one of my boys (the graduant) friends who opened me, accusing me of stealing her camera case- playfully. I facebook closed. Found out she's 26! She was hot tho hb7, very attractive personality.. I'm 19 btw, so I didn't really think I had a chance!!

I got such a buzz from being the man, I want that feeling everyday!
I'm really starting to thrive at these social occasions


In between then n now, been working on being the man in my social circle. Which I feel I am.

Onto yesterday, 1st august:

After having been frustrated at my lack of cojones for going out doing cold approaches. I reached a point where I was like. What have I got to loose/gain. Had to go into town to research a company I have a group interview for on thursday. Hopefully all the stuff I've learnt from PU will stand me in good stead, but I digress..

Needed to go to cashpoint opposite to get money for bus fare, saw a 3 set crossing the road, we net in the middle.. I somehow managed to say "hi" lol it was a weak hi cuz AA was murdering my ass but they said hi back. I thought its on.
Went across road got my cash n everything.
Got back to the other side the same 3 set were waiting for the same bus!


I looked to the sky n thought to myself thank you big guy.. haha. I approached.

Lets call them HBtatoo, HBredhead and HBx haha, I'm having this problem where i cant seem to remember girls names!

ME: "hey, wow are you guys from around here? ive lived here couple years n not met any cool people" (...until now)"

HBTatoo: i'm here visitin my mum i live blablaa
ME: oh i used to live there
HBtatoo: you dont look like any of the guys i know from there, youre to well dressed lol

All this while intense EC

we talked for about 10 mins, i used an opinion opener I made up mid sarge "coconut or baileys?" (Leads to a dhv, I'm throwing suprise party for relative, was at cake shop couldn't decide which flavour cake).. one of the girls was taking long so I negged "is she always like this"? Got laughs. Kino. Kino.. just had a good natural conversation, couldn't decide which of the 3 I wanted but 2 of them were giving me lots of iois, think the 3rd was the shy one - HBredhead. Anyway Kino some more with hbtatoo. We get on bus I sit a farther back behind their group on opposite side; but im doing my own thing (sending texts etc..) but all 3 of them are constantly looking back smiling at me. Hell fire eye contact n I just have this huge grin on my face..


Meanwhile a hb7.5 gets on the bus she sits behind me but on 3set side. Reading a book - million openers pop up in my head at this point.

3set get off, i didn't #close, not too bothered cuz ill see them around. Hbtatoo looks for ec then says "bye" to me n smiles.

*social proof ding ding*

After a hesitation, AA. I turn to hb7.5

"Hi, I know this is random but I thought you were cute, n I'd regret it all day if I didn't say hi"

My first direct approach! I was soo happy getting that out, I didn't hear what she said her name was haha. Anyway I just rolled with it.. I'm going away on hols to Europe soon turns out her dad lives in same country, just talked vibed, then about the book she was reading, where she worked she gave me some job interview advice haha.. then 5 mins later in a convo she mentioned something about her boyfriend.. :'(

Haha to be honest I wasn't too bothered it just felt good making a direct approach n she was giving off tons of iois

Learning experience.

She got off, wished me luck etc..

I was buzzing off the 2 approaches already, swaggered into bullring. Maintained ec with all the hired guns I had to see, made every single one of them laugh even the dudes at the apple store. I was just buzzing off confidence really

I enjoyed the rest of my day.

What I really learnt from the day:

I do have the cojones. I need to work on consistency. There's no easy short cuts but it'll be worth it.

I need to work on my frame, specifically projecting my intent but I guess that will come in time.

I also noticed at times esp hb7.5 I was "in my head" rather than listening

Consistency is king


Also, motivational quotes! loaded those onto my homepage on my android. they helped. especially the nietzche one "dare to become who you are" cant remember who to credit but thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:18 pm 
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I continue to be the only poster but your journals are fun to read!
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I also noticed at times esp hb7.5 I was "in my head" rather than listening.
That's a huge thing to notice about yourself. You'll always have something to say if you can focus on them a little.

You're doing great stuff. I would have reopened the three set on the bus, would have been good social proof for the other girl. You've inspired me to get out and do some day game today. Keep having fun and posting!


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Wednesday 3rd August:
I was going to post this a few weeks ago as a separate thread but I forgot. I’d like to thank the whole community for all the tips.. you really do start to notice AFC behaviour once you become aware of it. Prior to joining the forum, i know it sounds ridiculous but i thought eye contact was just a word (not literally), you don’t realise the level of intimacy it gives you with your target/ friends. But thanks to yall and some soul searching i feel like I’m really overcoming/ getting used to ignoring AA. I’m becoming a more confident person, more gregarious and generally just being more social and enjoying life a lot more!

Now thats done.
On to the field report:
Decided to go for a walk to the local high street.
2 set opened me,
HB: I like your glasses (ray bans)
ME: thanks
ME: hey dyu guys know where the nearest McDs is?
HB: *stopped, good EC* blah blaah
They seemed interested but they were like 17.. i didn’t bother

Kept on walking, to keep the momentum going opened middle aged lady walking behind me
ME: hey scuse me do you know where McDs is?

She stopped turned to me began describing the place, had a little conversation about it.
I said thanks had to wait at the bus stop for a bit cuz the directions she gave me were in the opposite direction i was heading and i didn’t want to seem like I just ignored her advice haha.

It was then i spot a pair of HB6s. Opposite side of the road..
I commit to it.
There’s a dual carriage way between me and the targets so i have to cross through 2 lanes of oppositely travelling traffic. As I’m crossing over to their side i have to stop for traffic i notice that they’re walking fast and i don’t want to have to run up behind them.
I shout across the street
ME: HEY! (Was it a bad move?)
HBs look over, as I’m walking toward them about 5 metres away
ME: *i repeat slowly*dyu guys know where the nearest McDs is
HBs look to each other, girl coding, i think they knew i was trying to game them
*is there a way you can get their bitch shield back down even when you think theyre onto you? What would you guys say?*
One HB smiles, her friend starts walking away
ME: *smiling, animated* come on, you’re looking at me like i just asked the most ridiculous question.
HB: blahbalah..
Then i just ejected, when they had left i thought of a million things i could have continued the convo with; like “you’re looking at me like i just asked you to marry me, you wouldn’t leave me at the altar would you?”
I kept it moving anyway. I got to the high street, it was dead. I sat at a bus stop texting n reflecting, then started the recorder on my phone.

Next comes probably the best interaction of the day.. it still sucked! haha

HBPolish walks in, checking the bus schedules
She’s a striking blond, kinda tall, killer smile. HB7.5

AA hit me, i froze. but after a while I just decide to go for it.
Observation.

ME: Which bus are you waiting for?
HBPolish: all of them lol
ME: *i had alpha body language (been working on it) then looking at her* why don’t you have a seat? *smiles* or do you prefer standing lol

She actually came and sat on the seat nearest to me, there were 4 other seats. - could’ve negged?
HBPolsh: laughs *pulls out her phone it’s got a pink case*
ME: thats a very girly phone *smile* –

I know i shuda said something more creative! but that’s all i could think of at the time
HBPolish: *Laughs a lot*
ME: Whats your name
HBPolish: adda
(wtf! I didn’t catch that? Lol)
ME: what is it?
HBPolish: anna

I should have probably repeated her name, i hear it creates deeper connexion!

Then blaha blah blah

I extended my arm
ME: nice to meet you
HBPolish: you too, whats your name?
ME: toby, do you work around here?

Yeh she was on her way to work,
She was dressed smart, black blouse, dark grey skirt mid heels. I remember thinking i could have done a cold read.

Something like. hmm you’re dressed very smart, business like... so a stripper lol?

i notice shes got a tattoo on her foot it looks kinda cooky could’ve negged. Also notice a potential wedding ring.

Anyway there was a silence for like a minute, while i was in my head with all these ideas.

Then I just decided to throw out an opinion opener instead.
ME: O, let me get your opinion on something, yno the drinks baileys or coconut?..
HBPolish: baileys

I tell the story..
her bus is coming n I’m thinking FUARK! Just when i reopened.

I say thanks, but if the cake is horrible im going to track her down! Jokingly.. I said bye etc n left to go home

I know the interaction wasn’t exactly gold. But i was just glad that i was consistently approaching.

I feel I’ll need more openers. My direct ones are good... even if ive only used it once. Its just the indirect.. i don’t wanna keep asking for directions and the roommate ones imo are too canned and aren’t me.

I think observational will probably end up being what i do, but come on guys can you suggest some indirect?


I know my posts are long haha, ill keep em shorter from now. Thanks for reading.

I’ve got Thursdays (AUG 4th) field report coming. I had a group interview with a fruit based logo company whose name rhymes with smapple. managed to game this HB 5 whose bday it was, FB closed.

PS, i think alot of guys abuse the number scale! 1- 10.
5 being average. Either that or ive just got really ugly girls where i live haha[/b]

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