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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:41 pm 
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I've read a few posts on this subject and I think maybe in the game. This is the first time I have encountered it though... and the bad thing is i didn't even get to Fclose.

Met this girl on Halloween, I have another post I will put up soon as well, involving another girl. But anyways this girl was dressed like a slutty ass cop..love that kind of thing...was talking to her early in the party, while I was waiting for this HB9 i sarged a few weeks before to come over..I used some negs about her slutty outfit, and the attraction might have been built here or maybe it was built when my HB9 showed up...she was the best looking girl at the party and she was with me(damn...not something I am used to and it sure does feel good...not to mention your peak the interest of the other girls.) Anyways, I made my presence and left after about an hour with the HB9 to another party. Later that night I was getting text messages, one of my friends gave the slutty cop(HB7) my number. She was obviously drunk, but to make a long story short, I was flirting back with her and she kept asking me about the other girl. I would change the subject and avoid the question.

The next day I had her eating out of the palm of my hand, I was talking with her and when she'd ask about the girl I'd ignore her and she say something like "I'm sorry none of my business I shouldn't be asking that, blah blah." she said many other things like this, basically kissing my ass. You get the point. I invited her over and she drove down to my Apt. We walked down to the store to get some drinks, came back put a movie on, I was trying to build comfort the whole time.

Eventually i had her come close to me and she snuggled up against me... I started making out with her about 10-15 minutes later....Everything was going good and i started feeling her boobs taking off her shirt and so on..she took my hand kept moving it down.. So i started fingering her...but she wouldn't let me take off her pants. I told her lets go to my room but she refused. She was in the moment and asked for a condom..I told her ok but lets go to my room cuz my roomate hadn't come home yet. She said no again and then she was getting second thoughts about sex...she obviously didn't want to be thought of as a slut....she mentioned being a slut a few times.. i tried going around it..and eventually tried the freeze out by watching TV and that sort..but it didn't work..i probably did something wrong...don't know if it would have worked..but my roomate ended up coming in and we were on the couch(she was fully clothed but i know she felt like a slut) she got all uncomfortable and left..

I sent her a text saying i knew she was too young for me...im 26 she is 19..she responded with "yeah you weren't my type". i said "cool" and thats that.

I tried my best but this is my first attempted F close since being involved with the pickup community so definitely did something wrong. maybe you guys can give feedback....I think this is all a thing called anti-slut defense.. but maybe I felt to comfortable about being able to F close this one that i might have reverted to AFC ways a little. My roomate came home and made her feel slutty.That could be the problem..Im not sure..but all i know is she was asking me for a condom while my fingers were inside her one minute.. and the next she was ready to leave...If its the anti slut thing what should i do in the future?..and is this one still salvageable or should i save face and just forget her?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:42 pm 
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she'd ask about the girl I'd ignore her and she say something like "I'm sorry none of my business I shouldn't be asking that, blah blah."
ok dude - so this ^ was ur first cue that she is immature (19) and the jealous type. You are a 26 yr old mature guy that picked her up drunk at a party. There's going to be underlying shit here - ur an older guy picking up a younger girl - she saw u hitting on other girls. Girls this age arent as comfy with this behavior. So u had to put some work in.
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I invited her over and she drove down to my Apt. We walked down to the store to get some drinks, came back put a movie on, I was trying to build comfort the whole time.
this ^ was great. Movie is classic hook-up move, works every time. And the comfort building is def what u needed to work on. From the rest of the post it appears u DIDNT build enough comfort for her - but ill get to that.
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Eventually i had her come close to me and she snuggled up against me... I started making out with her about 10-15 minutes later....Everything was going good and i started feeling her boobs taking off her shirt and so on..she took my hand kept moving it down.. So i started fingering her...but she wouldn't let me take off her pants. I told her lets go to my room but she refused. She was in the moment and asked for a condom..
So you know the attraction is there. SHE TOLD U TO GET A CONDDOM. You're mistake is that u gave her time to think about it - like u said - she was "in the moment".... KEEP HER THERE - dont talk! when she said that - i would have givin her a quick passionate kiss, grabbd her by the hand and LED her to ur room. IF she said why in ur room - u say ur bed is more comfy - NOT THAT UR ROOMMATE IS COMING HOME!!! u already know shes worried about being a slut - she's not going to like the idea of some other dude possibly being there or even walking in or hearing etc etc etc. So it was kinda ur fault dude - u had her! and she wanted it.
so u made 2 mistakes
1. talking/giving her time to back out
2. mentioning the roommate when talking

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She said no again and then she was getting second thoughts about sex...she obviously didn't want to be thought of as a slut....she mentioned being a slut a few times.. i tried going around it..and eventually tried the freeze out by watching TV and that sort..but it didn't work..


the freeze out didnt work ^ because she was worried about ur roommate - the hook-up was over at that point
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my roomate ended up coming in
nail in the coffin - prior to hooking up with her i would have texted him and told him 2 give u some time
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I sent her a text saying i knew she was too young for me...im 26 she is 19..
Ah man u shouldnt have done that. What was the purpose of that? did u decide u didnt want to hook up with her? or were u trying to neg her? If u were trying to neg her .... WHY. u were already in her pants dude.
for damage control i woulda been like - next time we can hang out at ur place where ull be more comfy etc etc
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she responded with "yeah you weren't my type". i said "cool" and thats that.
bullsht dude - she wanted a condom - u were her type, but unfortunately u blew it. saying u werent my type is saying - yeah u gave me time to realize that ur a 26 yr old player picking up 19 yr old girls for sex after a day
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and is this one still salvageable or should i save face and just forget her?
im really not sure. that text was a bad idea. i mean this was just some girl at a party right? so no harm in trying - not like shes a friend or u work with her etc

try texting her and playing it cool start over kinda - u need to rebuild comfort

try and get her to go to a party ur going to
"hey party @ ___ @___pm, it's going to be awesome" etc etc

it was a great pick-up - just a few details f'd u up with an easily freakd out lil girl thats all
you sarge and you learn
any other questions let me know man

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:05 pm 
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yeah, thanks a lot man..totally seems obvious now that you pointed a few things out. I did some dumb moves but I'm getting better. I've got other girls I am working on too.

I was right there man... oh well...no biggie!

I'll try to rekindle, but might have screwed it up...if so..next in line!!


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